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General => The Campfire => Topic started by: birol on Jun 30, 2004, 01:03 PM

Title: By law officer passed by
Post by: birol on Jun 30, 2004, 01:03 PM
Obviously it is prohibited to keep any PUP UP's in the driveway in where we live :( Finally has been up and being fixed since we brought it, and someone complained ! The guy was polite and looked understanding when I told him that I was working on it, but nevertheless it has to go into the garage ! If I catch the ..... who complained I will have a couple of words with him. So many people have their PU's in their driveways or open right now. I confess Finally has been there for a very long time now.

We will get a letter on Friday with a deadline to remove it. I told the guy that we are going on a camping trip after 1.5 weeks anyways, he said you will see the deadline on the letter, I hate it ! Now I will go around and complain about everyones Tent Trailers !

It takes  a real pathetic person to complain about such a thing when the whole town is full of Pu's ......
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 30, 2004, 01:06 PM
What's the law for one is the law for all..... do you know if he stopped at the other houses?
 
The letter should have a phone number on it... I'd call it and definitely complain about all the others... if you have to have yours put away so does everyone else.
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Post by: birol on Jun 30, 2004, 01:16 PM
I am going to do that right now ! Until they stop enforcing it or start hiring new people !

He nonly came to us he said as there was a compalint against us only. it is a by-law that they do not enforce if there are noit any compalints. I went out and counted 15 PU's and two boats ! This is ridicilious !


Quote from: angelsmom10What's the law for one is the law for all..... do you know if he stopped at the other houses?
 
The letter should have a phone number on it... I'd call it and definitely complain about all the others... if you have to have yours put away so does everyone else.
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Post by: Gone-Camping on Jun 30, 2004, 06:20 PM
Seems to me if you place it in the garage every night and dig it out only when working on it, there wouldn't be much they could do about it. I do understand that is a pain in the butt and hard to 'water test' it like that. But considering you've got most of it down now anyway. When the date rolls around, get it in the garage, they'll come and check on it then, and a week or two later, bring it right back out. Eventually the complainer will get tired of complaining...who knows, by then you'll figure it out.

I used to park my tow truck in front of the house, but one of my neibors complained each time, and each time the police would come by and tell me it had to be moved by a certain time. It turned out to be the people across the street who had difficulty backing out of their driveway with the tow truck on my side of the road (narrow street). They had the right to do so, and nothing I could do about it.
 
I suppose I could call and complain about them parking their car facing the wrong way or something, but just can't bring myself to do that. I just can't lower myself to becoming just like them.
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Post by: birol on Jun 30, 2004, 06:38 PM
Well, the guy was very nice, he said that he will get around to sending a letter on Friday, it should reach me Monday or Tuesday. I told him that by that Sunday we would be gone, I guess (am hoping) that he will give us till Monday and by then we will be gone anyways. When we are back it will have to go in, which was our plan anyways. When it is outside we can not park one of the cars in the driveway and I hate that !


Quote from: Gone-CampingSeems to me if you place it in the garage every night and dig it out only when working on it, there wouldn't be much they could do about it. I do understand that is a pain in the butt and hard to 'water test' it like that. But considering you've got most of it down now anyway. When the date rolls around, get it in the garage, they'll come and check on it then, and a week or two later, bring it right back out. Eventually the complainer will get tired of complaining...who knows, by then you'll figure it out.
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Post by: vjm1639 on Jul 01, 2004, 08:13 AM
Ours can't be in our parking area at all...we have to do everything from the storage lot where we keep it.   :(  One of these days I want to move to an area that doesn't have such restrictions...but you have to go so far away around here to get that!
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Post by: RuffinIt on Jul 02, 2004, 03:58 PM
Quote from: vjm1639Ours can't be in our parking area at all...we have to do everything from the storage lot where we keep it.   :(  One of these days I want to move to an area that doesn't have such restrictions...but you have to go so far away around here to get that!

We are not allowed to park it in the driveway for more than about 24 hours.  People generally don't complain unless it is there for more than 3 or 4 days.  But there is no way we could get by with leaving it out for a week.

We have ours in the backyard behind the fence.  It is down right now, but we hope (depending on the weather) to put it up this weekend and give it a good go-over.  We can leave it behind the fence without any problems.

You know, about the people complaining about the tow truck, it seems like they could have come to you and asked you to park it so that they could get out easier.  It kills me that people won't talk to a neighbor about a problem.  They would rather hide behind someone else.  Seems sad to me.
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Post by: 6Quigs on Jul 02, 2004, 08:10 PM
We were concerned when we knew we would be upgrading from a popup to a Hybrid, so before we even bought the hybrid, we spoke with all our neighbours, asking them if it would be a problem having a TT there instead of the popup.
That gave them all a chance to say how they felt about the popup, and when the hybrid arrived, there were no surprises, nobody was jealous of our new aquisition, and they all came over to peek inside, and wish us luck with our new camping toy!!
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Post by: Camping Coxes on Jul 03, 2004, 12:41 AM
Quote from: Gone-CampingIt turned out to be the people across the street who had difficulty backing out of their driveway with the tow truck on my side of the road (narrow street). They had the right to do so, and nothing I could do about it.
And heaven knows they couldn't simply walk across the street and say, "Hey, Cliff, I have a hard time backing out of my driveway with your tow truck there.  Could you maybe pull up a foot to make it easier?"  That would be way too neighborly and way too easy.
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Post by: cruiserpop on Jul 03, 2004, 07:05 AM
i've got a double whammy-county prohibits parking a peice of major recreation appliances 9which includes a tt) on the street. the develpoment prohibits trailers in the parking lot, even though we own the spaces. however, it appears we have selective enforcement, nothing happens unless someone complains. got a ticket frpm the county one month after buying it for parking on the street-seems a neighbor of mine thought it blocked his view. he and i had polite words, i moved it, but he still turned  me in. right now, the trailer is in my parking space, and no one seems to mind. means i'm parking the tv on the streen blocking someone's view...

Quote from: Camping CoxesAnd heaven knows they couldn't simply walk across the street and say, "Hey, Cliff, I have a hard time backing out of my driveway with your tow truck there.  Could you maybe pull up a foot to make it easier?"  That would be way too neighborly and way too easy.
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Post by: Gone-Camping on Jul 03, 2004, 10:59 AM
Worst part about it was, the first time he broke down and was looking for a free tow, who do you think he came to? I told him I couldn't because some idiot kept calling the police on me when I parked it at home, so I didn't bring the truck home anymore. That's when I found out HE was the idiot... :D
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Post by: vjm1639 on Jul 07, 2004, 01:27 PM
LOL..oh Cliff..that is too funny!!  :D
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Post by: Acts 2:38 girl on Jul 11, 2004, 12:57 PM
There is no way in heck I could ever live in a place that told me what I can and can not park on MY PROPERTY!! No an apartment, I can see.. But when some HOA tells me I can not park a car or truck or camper in MY driveway that would be the end of it... Stupid laws IMHO! No thank you, You could never get me to buy a property like that!!  :swear:
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Post by: Firefyter-Emt on Jul 11, 2004, 12:58 PM
Gee Hun.. good thing to know...

 
~snicker, snicker~  :compumad:
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Post by: MommaMia on Jul 11, 2004, 04:49 PM
Quote from: Firefyter-Emt~snicker, snicker~  

So where will you be parking your butt tonight when bedtime comes?  The couch? The guest bed? hehehehe ;)
Title: Was he a law enforcement officer or private security officer.
Post by: samatsu on Jul 29, 2004, 12:17 AM
:yikes: I would check the actual law or have the officer provide the law to you. I don't understand how the city could enforce any parking restrictions located on PRIVATE property such as your own driveway. The city does not own the property and as long as the popup isn't creating a hazard which had the potential to cause harm to another person or someone's property, I can't see any higher court allowing such a law to be enforced and would bet that any consequences dished out by the city for the violation would be overturned as unconstitutional  :mad: .

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After reading all of the responses, I am to understand that these bylaws are from a neighborhood association type of setting correct? And that the "by law officer" was not an actual law enforecment officer but a citizen designated to handle such complaints, correct? Did you sign an agreement to such bylaws when you purchased your home? Were these bylaws implemented AFTER you purchased your home? If you didn't sign any agreements to such bylaws when you purchased the home, they  might not be able to enforce the bylaws against you. If the bylaws were implemented AFTER you purchased your home, you should be "grandfathered" in and should not be held to such bylaws. Just something to check out.

Just my two cents.

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Post by: Civil_War_Buff on Jul 29, 2004, 08:30 AM
Quote from: samatsu:yikes: I would check the actual law or have the officer provide the law to you. I don't understand how the city could enforce any parking restrictions located on PRIVATE property such as your own driveway. The city does not own the property and as long as the popup isn't creating a hazard which had the potential to cause harm to another person or someone's property, I can't see any higher court allowing such a law to be enforced and would bet that any consequences dished out by the city for the violation would be overturned as unconstitutional  :mad:


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If the trailer is in "public view" it doesn't matter if it is on private property or not (in most communities), they can complain and the city can make you remove or move it.  This was enacted in many cities to keep junker cars from littering front yards, but many have extended that to include RV's, boats, etc.


Birol, I just wanted to say one thing about the complaint, I think it is terrible that you were singled out, but I really don't believe that it was any of the other pop-up owners that complained.  In our frustration sometimes we start pointing fingers at those around us, but if you were to complain about the others that have them out in their yards you aren't getting the complainer, only neighbors.  I am willing to bet that the "whistle-blower" is as close as a next door neighbor, not much farther.

Great pics of the roof replace! Lee is one talented craftsman.

Larry
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jul 30, 2004, 07:38 AM
We just got a notice from the city that the car we had in our driveway either had to be licensed or we would be sited and it would be towed.  I had always thought that as long as a vehicle was private property, it was OK, but we found out we were wrong.
 
We had purchased a car at a police auction for $50; the only reason being it was a manual transmission and we want the DD's to learn to drive one and felt this would be cheap (it came with a salvage title since the car was taken by the police when they arrested a guy for DUI, and under a suspended license).  He never claimed the car so they had to sell with a salvage title.  We got the title cleared with the state, but since we have to have emissions tested, it failed one part and DH never had the time to really get into it and with no extra $$ we were just waiting to get it fixed.  We have since taken to the shop and told them no rush.
 
So fingers crossed that it is something very inexpensive...
 
We have a neighbor who is always trying to find something to get us for.  
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Post by: Firefyter-Emt on Jul 30, 2004, 07:50 AM
That is even more BS!! I mean I can see if you have 4 or 5 cars sitting aroung. But 1 freaking car that is not on the road!! Come awn.. Who else thinks our personal rights are getting stipped away by the second??!!  What is next, a ticket for not mowing your lawn on time? Color police if your house is not the "proper color" ?? Maybe they will start to give out fines for your kids toys left in plain viwe of the public in your own yard!!!!!!!!!  :swear:
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Post by: vjm1639 on Jul 30, 2004, 08:18 AM
Quote from: Firefyter-EmtThat is even more BS!! I mean I can see if you have 4 or 5 cars sitting aroung. But 1 freaking car that is not on the road!! Come awn.. Who else thinks our personal rights are getting stipped away by the second??!! What is next, a ticket for not mowing your lawn on time? Color police if your house is not the "proper color" ?? Maybe they will start to give out fines for your kids toys left in plain viwe of the public in your own yard!!!!!!!!! :swear:
You're late! It's already happened....LOL  Our subdivision WILL send the association grounds crew to mow your yard and then bill you if your yard gets too high. we aren't allowed to make any changes to the outside of our property without permission...actually from the declaration "No improvements, alterations, repairs, excavations or other  work which in any way alters the exterior appearance of any property shall be made or done without the prior approval of the Architectural Committee".  There are approved colors for everything.. only one type of fence that we can have...."supposed" to get permission to even plant flowers, shrubs, veggie gardens etc.. Most every community in this entire area has the same basic rules so it's not just a matter of moving to another neighborhood.    Sometimes I hate the rules...like when I can't even have my popup at home to load or unload...but with the neighbors I have on one side of me..it's also nice to know someone will be sure the outside of their home doesn't look like the inside!  :yikes:
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Post by: MommaMia on Jul 30, 2004, 10:51 AM
Quote from: vjm1639You're late! It's already happened....LOL  Our subdivision WILL send the association grounds crew to mow your yard and then bill you if your yard gets too high. we aren't allowed to make any changes to the outside of our property without permission...actually from the declaration "No improvements, alterations, repairs, excavations or other  work which in any way alters the exterior appearance of any property shall be made or done without the prior approval of the Architectural Committee".  There are approved colors for everything.. only one type of fence that we can have...."supposed" to get permission to even plant flowers, shrubs, veggie gardens etc.. Most every community in this entire area has the same basic rules so it's not just a matter of moving to another neighborhood.    Sometimes I hate the rules...like when I can't even have my popup at home to load or unload...but with the neighbors I have on one side of me..it's also nice to know someone will be sure the outside of their home doesn't look like the inside!  :yikes:


We have the same rules.  The association doesn't make a big deal out of flower planting, but they could if the neighbors complained!

We do pop our camper up at home after a trip to unpack and let dry, but it's never been for longer than a day and I have spoken with immediate neighbors about this and they have told us it doesn't bother them at all.
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Post by: birol on Jul 30, 2004, 11:48 AM
I am just curious if this post belongs in the general or campfire forum.

I want to know what people are thinking as it has been moved from the general forum to the campfire forum.  I am not trying to argue, keep that in mind.


Go vote now, and please keep it nice and clean.

http://www.arveeclub.com/showthread.php?p=81040#post81040
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Post by: vjm1639 on Jul 30, 2004, 02:44 PM
Quote from: MommaMiaWe have the same rules. The association doesn't make a big deal out of flower planting, but they could if the neighbors complained!
 
We do pop our camper up at home after a trip to unpack and let dry, but it's never been for longer than a day and I have spoken with immediate neighbors about this and they have told us it doesn't bother them at all.
Ahh, so you understand.  I've talked to people who say "I'd never live somewhere like that"...well, if you live in many big city areas most every neighborhood is like this....or,the few who aren't...you wouldn't want to be there anyway! LOL  
 
Neighbors would definitely complain if we popped our camper open! They wouldn't be able to park!  ;>
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Post by: MommaMia on Jul 30, 2004, 03:43 PM
Quote from: vjm1639Ahh, so you understand.  I've talked to people who say "I'd never live somewhere like that"...well, if you live in many big city areas most every neighborhood is like this....or,the few who aren't...you wouldn't want to be there anyway! LOL  
 
Neighbors would definitely complain if we popped our camper open! They wouldn't be able to park!  ;>


Well, even though I sometimes find it a pain in the butt, I understand it completely.  It keeps the neighborhood liking nice and uniform.  Not that every house looks the same... they don't.  It just keeps everthing in keeping with an overall cohesive look.  It's one of the reasons we choose this area to live in.

We have our own driveways... all single family homes in this neighborhood so popping up in the driveway doesn't get in anyone's way.
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jul 30, 2004, 08:16 PM
Quote from: vjm1639Ahh, so you understand.  I've talked to people who say "I'd never live somewhere like that"...well, if you live in many big city areas most every neighborhood is like this....QUOTE]

That is one reason why I don't/won't live in a big city. :)
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Post by: vjm1639 on Jul 31, 2004, 06:58 AM
Quote from: tlhdocThat is one reason why I don't/won't live in a big city. :)
certainly wasn't what I would have chosen either....;) Uncle Sam decided for the ex-dh years ago.   I just got stuck...
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jul 31, 2004, 12:36 PM
Quote from: vjm1639certainly wasn't what I would have chosen either....;) Uncle Sam decided for the ex-dh years ago.   I just got stuck...

Sounds like it is time to move. :)
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Post by: MommaMia on Jul 31, 2004, 12:44 PM
I choose to live here.  It's a gorgeous area, beautiful homes, nice property, A rated schools, acres of lakes, many parks, outside city limits but convenient to everything!

http://www.julingtoncreek.com/sitemap.htm
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Aug 02, 2004, 07:25 AM
Quote from: Firefyter-Emt..... Color police if your house is not the "proper color" ?? :swear:
About 15yrs ago, the company DH was working for was closing their Cincinnati location, and there was a chance he may be offered a job in MD, so they gave us a trip out there it scout out places to live and there was a community we looked at that you did have to get your color "approved", there is also a gated community locally that you have to have the house style and colors approved, also, the lots are kinda small, so there were quite a few who bought 2 lots and wanted to build in the middle, but they weren't even allowed to do that. :swear:
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Post by: vjm1639 on Aug 02, 2004, 08:13 AM
Quote from: tlhdocSounds like it is time to move. :)

Sometimes I wish...however, DH has worked for his company for 30+ years now...I don't see him leaving them at this point!  LOL