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Title: LED Lights Installed
Post by: JimS on Aug 17, 2008, 08:42 PM
I installed 5 Superbright LEDs #T10-PCB-CWHP9 to replace 4 overhead 921's and 1 912 bulb (patio).  Current draw measured with my ampmeter with the overhead lights on (each light has two 921's) was 5.32A.  Current draw with the LED's was 0.79A.  0.07A is the draw of the converter and gas alarm.
The LED's are plenty bright. They will be tested further in one week with my three week stint in Glacier NP.
Now, if I could get the furnace as efficient!
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Post by: ekakadams on Aug 18, 2008, 06:50 AM
was this a mod to the lights or can you buy them and plug them in the existing lights?
Ed
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Post by: JimS on Aug 18, 2008, 08:30 AM
Quote from: ekakadamswas this a mod to the lights or can you buy them and plug them in the existing lights?
Ed
They are a direct plug in, no modification at all.  I did use double sided tape to attach them to the top of the reflector.
Superbright has several different base styles for most automotive and auxillary lighting applications.
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Post by: austinado16 on Aug 18, 2008, 03:14 PM
This is the next "mod money" I spend on ours.  My overheads use 4 1156 bulbs, and the porch light uses one 1156.

Have a great time at GNP!!
Title: LED Upgrade
Post by: BirdMan on Aug 19, 2008, 09:25 AM
These are great inside lights and installed them in my Fleetwood pop-up last spring.  For those doing the same type of upgrade I talked to //www.superbrightleds.com and they said these lamps, T10-PCB-CWHP9, are not recommended for outside use as they are not very waterproof and LED's can short pretty easily with just a little bit of moisture.

Also, the inside connector type is what they call wedge.  The outside lamp an 1156 type on my Fleetwood.  For a look at the connector types see //www.superbrightleds.com/specs/pcblamp_T10.htm at the bottom of the page.  You will see the difference between wedge, 1142, 1156, and 1157 type connectors.

What I plan to do is buy another T10-PCB-CWHP9 LED panel with an 1156 connector for the outside light and just unplug it when traveling and keep it in one of the inside drawers.  I thought using a piece of Velcro would make it easy to take off/on when setting up/down.  This way I can keep it dry.
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Post by: Birddog on Aug 19, 2008, 01:14 PM
Thanks for passing this along. The LED lights are one of the changes on my list and now I don't have to experiment. I just bought an 2008 11RT and I'm a dry/cold weather hunter/camper. Please let us know if you find a way to reduce the drain from the furnace. dan
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Post by: coach on Aug 19, 2008, 01:57 PM
my overheads are single 1156 or 57 bulbs.
Replaced one with led, the one closest to the guest bed.
Guests like to turn on the light and leave it on, now they can!
Did the patio light also.

If I remember, 3a for the 3 lights before, now the LED s barely register!
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Post by: austinado16 on Aug 25, 2008, 05:05 PM
Okay, just pulled the trigger on 5 of these today.

Bought 4 of the 9LED 1156PCB's to do the interior lights, and one of the 36LED Amber 1156 PCB's to do the porch light.  Total, including the 3M double sided tape they sell was $100 plus shipping.

Wish I could have afforded them before our trip last weekend, so I could have gotten a good test run with them.

Hey JimS......I used my "Olympian Wave 6 Catalytic Heater" this past weekend instead of the furnace.  On the medium setting, it kept the camper 71*F when it was 52*F outside.  Makes no noise and uses no battery voltage!  We were deep in the tall trees, so even if I did have a solar charging setup, it would have been useless.
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Post by: wavery on Aug 25, 2008, 10:33 PM
Quote from: austinado16Okay, just pulled the trigger on 5 of these today.

Bought 4 of the 9LED 1156PCB's to do the interior lights, and one of the 36LED Amber 1156 PCB's to do the porch light.  Total, including the 3M double sided tape they sell was $100 plus shipping.

Wish I could have afforded them before our trip last weekend, so I could have gotten a good test run with them.

Hey JimS......I used my "Olympian Wave 6 Catalytic Heater" this past weekend instead of the furnace.  On the medium setting, it kept the camper 71*F when it was 52*F outside.  Makes no noise and uses no battery voltage!  We were deep in the tall trees, so even if I did have a solar charging setup, it would have been useless.
I just went to eBay and found these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=270268455318

I bought 4, 2-paks (8 bulbs total) for $40. We'll see how they go.
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Post by: austinado16 on Aug 25, 2008, 11:01 PM
Quote from: waveryI just went to eBay and found these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=270268455318

I bought 4, 2-paks (8 bulbs total) for $40. We'll see how they go.

Nice score!  My only thought would be that you may not be happy with overall lumens of output as compared to the 9LED versions.
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Post by: tlhdoc on Aug 26, 2008, 04:39 AM
Quote from: austinado16Nice score! My only thought would be that you may not be happy with overall lumens of output as compared to the 9LED versions.
The bulbs Wavery purchased are 36 LEDs.:)
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Post by: austinado16 on Aug 26, 2008, 08:42 AM
Quote from: tlhdocThe bulbs Wavery purchased are 36 LEDs.:)

Yes I know.  The Superbrightleds website (as a reference) lists the 36LED PCB's at 57 Lumens, while the 9LED PCB's are rated at 120 Lumens.
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Post by: wavery on Aug 26, 2008, 10:12 AM
Ah-ha.....I see a battle of the LEDs looming on the horizon... :yikes:

That settles it, you now have to join one of the SCCAMPER camp-outs with us so that we can compare LEDs.... :sombraro:

Actually, I saw the stats on the 9-LED panels and gave it a little consideration. Then I broke out the calculator and did the math. Our Trailmanor has 12 interior lights (6 doubles). I settled for 8 for the time being. I'm not real concerned about the 2 in the bathroom or the 2 in the aft bunk.

BTW, I am not recommending these LEDs yet. I will report back after they arrive and I install them.
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Post by: austinado16 on Aug 26, 2008, 10:52 AM
Quote from: waveryAh-ha.....I see a battle of the LEDs looming on the horizon... :yikes: BTW, I am not recommending these LEDs yet. I will report back after they arrive and I install them.

I too am going to be interested to see how these compare, both to the incandescents, and to 36 vs. 9.  

I ordered a 36 in amber to go in the porch light....something about how LED's emit just the color that they are, not the entire spectrum, so you have to buy amber if it's going behind an amber lens....so I'll be able to do a "sort of" comparison there.

I would have bought all 36's too, except our own "birdman" pointed out that the 9's were almost double the lumens (he talks about it in his solar charger thread).
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Post by: 6Quigs on Aug 26, 2008, 12:25 PM
I just counted, and I have 24 interior light bulbs, plus 4  wall lamps with 3 way bulbs.
So far we have been able to last a weekend without draining the battery, but with winter camping and the evening getting darker sooner, I need to look into replacing the bulbs with LED's.
Looks like I need to try some different options, and not sure if I need to replace all 22 bulbs just yet.
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Post by: BirdMan on Aug 26, 2008, 05:43 PM
I have done a lot of testing with all sorts of LED's over the years in many types of applications from camping trailers to computers.  JimS, the LED's you purchased are mechanically just like the one's superbrightlights.com sells.  You can see the specs on this "type" of LED at http://www.superbrightleds.com/specs/pcblamp.htm.  

tlhdoc, as austinado16 mentions the number of LED's on a board/lamp means nothing in respect to how much usable light they put out.  Three factors determine the amount, quality, and how our eye perceives this light.  They are Luminous Flux (Unit=Lumens) which is how bright a light is, Dominant Wavelength/CCT (=nm/K) which is the color the light seems to be, and Beam Pattern (Unit=degrees).

My experience is you want to first find the hightest Lumens LED you can find.  For reading a book the beam pattern will be important so you don't have to move your book back & forth to get the paragraph under the light.  The LED's JimS was looking at on ebay have a 100 degree beam angle coming off each LED.  Dominant Wavelength is the color the LED light will appear.  A standard incandescent bulb is around 3000K.  The higher the number the more blue/purple the light looks.

T10-PCB-CWHP9 have 120 Lumens and have a beam pattern of 120 degrees.  This is the push in type connector.  The part number for the 1156 connector type is 1156-PCB-CWHP9.  austinado16  is this the one you bought?
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Post by: austinado16 on Aug 26, 2008, 06:08 PM
Quote from: BirdMan...... The part number for the 1156 connector type is 1156-PCB-CWHP9.  austinado16  is this the one you bought?

Yes, I bought 4 of those to replace my 4 overhead 1156 bulbs, and then, because my porch light is sporting the amber lens (which I like), I bought just one of the amber 36LED PCB with the 1156 base.


To Wavery and 6Quigs:  Thanks for making me feel like a girlyman for owning a canvas shod rig with only 2 light fixtures on board.  I'll be over in the corner rocking myself...........if anyone cares.................................................... :(
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Post by: tlhdoc on Aug 26, 2008, 09:46 PM
I have the 36 LED bulbs and find that they are bright enough.  They make my fluorescent lantern's light look yellow.  I debated getting the 9 Super Bright LEDs, but felt they would be too bright and I am happy that I did not get them, after using the 36's for a week of dry camping.  I am going to order LED bulbs for my fan/light combos.  They are the lights the kids usually turn on, since they can not reach the ceiling fixtures.:)
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Post by: wavery on Aug 26, 2008, 09:58 PM
Quote from: austinado16Yes, I bought 4 of those to replace my 4 overhead 1156 bulbs, and then, because my porch light is sporting the amber lens (which I like), I bought just one of the amber 36LED PCB with the 1156 base.


To Wavery and 6Quigs:  Thanks for making me feel like a girlyman for owning a canvas shod rig with only 2 light fixtures on board.  I'll be over in the corner rocking myself...........if anyone cares.................................................... :(
Hey....I wasn't bragging....I was complaining :p
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Post by: 6Quigs on Aug 27, 2008, 09:58 PM
Quote from: austinado16To Wavery and 6Quigs:  Thanks for making me feel like a girlyman for owning a canvas shod rig with only 2 light fixtures on board.  I'll be over in the corner rocking myself...........if anyone cares.................................................... :(

Even when we camp with full hookups, we never use all 24 lights at the same time.
When we are dry camping, like last weekend, we only use about 4 of the lights, two in the living space, one in the bathroom and one in the rear bedroom and really try to conserve battery power. So, I just might only buy 8 of these to start with and put them in the lamps we use the most.
The next two trips are dry camping, so we will get to try them out.
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Post by: 6Quigs on Aug 31, 2008, 01:11 PM
I found a thread over at RV.net discussing LED's in his truck camper.

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/20592440.cfm

he has done some nice comparisions between the different types and has plenty of photos included.

I have just ordered some of the ones on the flat board with 36 and some with 9 LED's on them.
I have also ordered the 1156-3w High Power Refractor bulb.
With 24 different bulbs in my RV, I will have plenty of places to try them out, and decide which is the best fit for each location. Some lamps are for general illumination, while some over the dinette of the couch will be used for reading so will need the more spotlight effect.
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Post by: austinado16 on Sep 02, 2008, 04:06 PM
Very intersting reading!

Just in time too, because my LED's came today.  I'm sort of surprised at how small the circuit boards are.  Just a little bigger than a book of matches.  Can't wait to install and test!
Title: LED bulbs
Post by: jeepmaniowa on Sep 09, 2008, 09:35 AM
Quote from: austinado16Very intersting reading!

Just in time too, because my LED's came today.  I'm sort of surprised at how small the circuit boards are.  Just a little bigger than a book of matches.  Can't wait to install and test!


I just installed the same type (9 led) and the HW bulbs also.
The 9 LED are brighter than the HW bulbs.  Now, I need a higher lumen one to replace the bulb in the Fan/light combo, which it used over the dinette.

Anybody know of a 240 or higher lumen led that will work in a 1141/1156 socket?

Thanks.

Bob
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Post by: austinado16 on Sep 09, 2008, 11:19 AM
I've been wondering:  Since the 9LED PCB is so small, could a person use 2 of them in one location by splicing the wires from one PCB to the other power/ground wires on the other PCB, so you'd wind up with one socket and 2 PCB's for double the output?  The bummer about it would be the $43.
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Post by: jeepmaniowa on Sep 09, 2008, 12:42 PM
Quote from: austinado16I've been wondering:  Since the 9LED PCB is so small, could a person use 2 of them in one location by splicing the wires from one PCB to the other power/ground wires on the other PCB, so you'd wind up with one socket and 2 PCB's for double the output?  The bummer about it would be the $43.

I wouldn't trust my soldering of the wires and end up destroying my current LED's.  :)

It would be nice if the manufacturers would design an LED that produces the same amount of light as it is replacing in an incandescent bulb, only using less energy and with the same or smaller footprint.

I might try a halogen in place of the tungsten filament 1141 bulb.

I'm satisfied with the amount of light the current LEDs put out in there designated fixtures.

I just need one LED that is bright enough to light up the dinette area and be able to read a book at night (my wife does that).  I'm outside with barley pop and watching the campfire/moonlight.

Later,

Bob
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Post by: wavery on Sep 14, 2008, 07:08 PM
Quote from: waveryAh-ha.....I see a battle of the LEDs looming on the horizon... :yikes:

That settles it, you now have to join one of the SCCAMPER camp-outs with us so that we can compare LEDs.... :sombraro:

Actually, I saw the stats on the 9-LED panels and gave it a little consideration. Then I broke out the calculator and did the math. Our Trailmanor has 12 interior lights (6 doubles). I settled for 8 for the time being. I'm not real concerned about the 2 in the bathroom or the 2 in the aft bunk.

BTW, I am not recommending these LEDs yet. I will report back after they arrive and I install them.
I installed my new LED lights........I must say....I'm not impressed with the brightness. They're OK. I think it will just take a little getting used to.

We definitely had to turn on every light in the camper while working in there. Even at that, I can run every light with less draw than one of the old style.
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Post by: 6Quigs on Sep 14, 2008, 10:23 PM
I got mine last week and installed them yesterday.
They are not as bright as the incandensent bulbs, but I have so many lights it does not matter.
i only got 10 bulbs for now for $60, so ween we are dry camping we can use the LED's and when camping with hookups, we can use the incandensent ones as well as the LED's.

One solution if the LED is not bright enough, is replace the single bulb light fixture with a 2 bulb light fixture. You can get them from Camping World for less than $10 each. Installation should be simple, unscrew the old fixture, disconnect the wires and rewire to the new fixture and screw it to the ceiling.

I found the LED's would not work in 2 of my ceiling fixtures. it turns out they were wired backwards, so I just had to swop the wires and it then worked fine.
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Post by: TheViking on Sep 29, 2008, 02:26 PM
Haven't done the whole inside/outside LED mods yet.  But I plan to replace all the exterior running, taillights, porchlight, etc, as well as interior lights.  I do use LED's for camp markers and such, goes alot easier on your batteries.

 
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/skyjammer0/JV%20Sept%2008/jv210.jpg)
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Post by: drkminwa on Oct 05, 2008, 09:27 PM
Quote from: waveryI installed my new LED lights........I must say....I'm not impressed with the brightness. They're OK. I think it will just take a little getting used to.

We definitely had to turn on every light in the camper while working in there. Even at that, I can run every light with less draw than one of the old style.

OK I'm lost and confused with all this info! I have 2 fixtures, 2 1156 bulbs in each fixture in my PUP. Will 4 of the 19 LED's likely be similar light output in lumens? Should I go for 4 of the 24 LED bulbs?

Thanks for so much more than I thought I would ever know about LED's!
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Post by: austinado16 on Oct 05, 2008, 11:19 PM
Quote from: drkminwaOK I'm lost and confused with all this info! I have 2 fixtures, 2 1156 bulbs in each fixture in my PUP. Will 4 of the 19 LED's likely be similar light output in lumens? Should I go for 4 of the 24 LED bulbs?

Thanks for so much more than I thought I would ever know about LED's!

You need 2 of the 9LED Super Brites at $22ea and buy a couple of the $.25ea sheets of 3M brand double sided tape when you place your order.

The 9LED version produces more light than the 24 or 36 LED version.

//www.superbriteleds.com
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Post by: drkminwa on Oct 06, 2008, 06:48 AM
Quote from: austinado16You need 2 of the 9LED Super Brites at $22ea and buy a couple of the $.25ea sheets of 3M brand double sided tape when you place your order.

The 9LED version produces more light than the 24 or 36 LED version.

//www.superbriteleds.com


I'm looking at bulbs that plug into the existing socket. Are they similar? They are from

here

Thanks
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Post by: austinado16 on Oct 06, 2008, 02:27 PM
My take on the LED scene is that because LED's put most of their light straight out the tip, you need to use the circuit board style and double stick tape it so the LED's are facing down at your floor.

The LED "tail light bulbs" that you see there are not meant to be run continuously, like a light bulb is, and, they are meant to put most of their light out the end, facing the lens on your brake lights, turn signals, etc. in your car.  So they wouldn't be very good at lighting the inside of your camper from overhead in the ceiling.
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Post by: TheViking on Oct 06, 2008, 04:45 PM
Quote from: austinado16You need 2 of the 9LED Super Brites at $22ea and buy a couple of the $.25ea sheets of 3M brand double sided tape when you place your order.
 
The 9LED version produces more light than the 24 or 36 LED version.

www.superbriteleds.com

 
 
 
 
Exactly what a bunch of my friends are using.
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Post by: austinado16 on Oct 27, 2008, 09:48 PM
Installed my 9LED Superbrites tonight and I'm very pleased with the results.  I replaced all 4 overhead bulbs, and the porch light.
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Post by: cjpoppin on Oct 28, 2008, 07:38 PM
Quote from: waveryI installed my new LED lights........I must say....I'm not impressed with the brightness. They're OK. I think it will just take a little getting used to.

We definitely had to turn on every light in the camper while working in there. Even at that, I can run every light with less draw than one of the old style.

I think you should have a few reg. lights inside it's the color or something that just isn't right and It'll take lots of getting used to.......Just my two cents worth....
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Post by: oreo57 on Oct 28, 2008, 11:25 PM
Quote from: austinado16Installed my 9LED Superbrites tonight and I'm very pleased with the results. I replaced all 4 overhead bulbs, and the purch light.
Ditto Here also but not tonight, also put a Amber one in the porch light and the light I installed on the street side, I put a small single LED...All works great.!!!
Title: I thought i found a good deal..
Post by: sundawg on Nov 17, 2008, 07:01 AM
Was at wal mart and in the trailer section the had a L E D Marker light..on clearance for $5.00  I bought 2 and thought i woud change out the leds  to white ....they were amber.   Went to radio shack and bought 4 new Leds  (4 pin high brightness white)and swapped them out....worked ok but not bright enough....oh well maybe put it out side...Also at home depot they had a solar clamp on light...its about 6x3....it fits perfect on the rail under my steps....so now we can see going  in and out....  : )
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Post by: AZsix on Nov 17, 2008, 04:36 PM
Quote from: sundawgWas at wal mart and in the trailer section the had a L E D Marker light..on clearance for $5.00  I bought 2 and thought i woud change out the leds  to white ....they were amber.   Went to radio shack and bought 4 new Leds  (4 pin high brightness white)and swapped them out....worked ok but not bright enough....oh well maybe put it out side...Also at home depot they had a solar clamp on light...its about 6x3....it fits perfect on the rail under my steps....so now we can see going  in and out....  : )

I could use that solar clamp on light. Looks like a trip to Home Depot is in my future. Thanks for the info.
Title: Heres a link to the light...
Post by: sundawg on Nov 18, 2008, 07:26 AM
puts out lots of light and can be moved around...

http://www.greenhomeimprovements.info/solar-powered-led-lights
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Post by: sundawg on Nov 23, 2008, 08:12 AM
On the driveway that is....Think i might get one more for inside...

(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg265/fotodogpix/DSC_0446.jpg)

(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg265/fotodogpix/DSC_0448.jpg)

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Title: led lights
Post by: drpoirier on Dec 23, 2008, 05:02 PM
So, if I have this correct, I can buy four units to place in my 2006 cheyenne at $21.95 each?  A little less than $100 for the interior?
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Post by: austinado16 on Dec 23, 2008, 08:41 PM
Quote from: drpoirierSo, if I have this correct, I can buy four units to place in my 2006 cheyenne at $21.95 each?  A little less than $100 for the interior?

Yes, each 1156 bulb you replace with a 9 LED unit will cost you $21.95.....plus shipping, and buy some of their 3M double sided tape while you're at it.
Title: interior led lights
Post by: drpoirier on Dec 24, 2008, 07:45 AM
Hi and thanks for your response.
I see elswhere that someone replace only one bulb in each fixture.  In that way, when you move to the first position, the led light will come on but when you move to the second position, the conventional bulb will light.  In this way, you have low voltage, lower light and the option of a brighter light when desired.  I may try this both ways once I move my camper out of winter storage.  I will likely experiment with the outside light first.
Title: comparison shots
Post by: HaveBlue on Jan 24, 2009, 07:51 PM
1156 vs 9 element led
(http://67.122.16.97/lars/albums/album24/1156vs1156_PCB_xWHP9.sized.jpg)

1156
(http://67.122.16.97/lars/albums/album24/1156Bulb.sized.jpg)

9 ele
(http://67.122.16.97/lars/albums/album24/1156_PCB_xWHP9Covered.sized.jpg)

1/2 to 1/4 as bright as a standard 1156 IMO but uses 1/10 the power.
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Post by: DT Sante Fe on Jan 24, 2009, 08:45 PM
I am ready to do this mod. Do you recomend the cool white or warm white LED.

 
Also. I believe I have the 1156 bulbs in my 2005 Fleetwood Niagara, can anyone confirm, so I do not need to pop up the camper?
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Post by: austinado16 on Jan 26, 2009, 01:54 AM
I think if you toggle back to the beginning of this thread, they start talking about warm white and give the actual part number from the website.
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Post by: DT Sante Fe on Jan 26, 2009, 08:01 PM
Quote from: austinado16I think if you toggle back to the beginning of this thread, they start talking about warm white and give the actual part number from the website.
Well, I did try and go back to the begining but could not find reference to the color.
 
 In looking at the SuperBright website "Cool white" has a higher lumens output than "Warm white"  Would'nt I want the higher lumens output?
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Post by: austinado16 on Jan 26, 2009, 08:50 PM
Quote from: DT Sante FeWell, I did try and go back to the begining but could not find reference to the color.
 
 In looking at the SuperBright website "Cool white" has a higher lumens output than "Warm white"  Would'nt I want the higher lumens output?

My apologies.  The info is in the solar thread where Birdman got this all started:

"The LED lamps I purchased you can see and buy at //www.superbrightleds.com/other_bulbs.htm. Scroll down until you see a small panel with nine LED's on it, part number T10-PCB-CWHP9. Click on "Buy Now". For your replacement the third bulb down is "1156-PCB-WHP9 White LED Lamp" MAKE SURE YOUR SELECT "Cool White - 7000K". "
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Post by: DT Sante Fe on Jan 27, 2009, 07:05 PM
Quote from: austinado16My apologies.  The info is in the solar thread where Birdman got this all started:

"The LED lamps I purchased you can see and buy at //www.superbrightleds.com/other_bulbs.htm. Scroll down until you see a small panel with nine LED's on it, part number T10-PCB-CWHP9. Click on "Buy Now". For your replacement the third bulb down is "1156-PCB-WHP9 White LED Lamp" MAKE SURE YOUR SELECT "Cool White - 7000K". "

Thanks Austinado !!
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Post by: oreo57 on Jan 27, 2009, 07:40 PM
These are the the ones that we got from the Superbright web site and they work great the 4 white where for the inside, the 1 amber for the porch and the 1 little single bulb for the road side light I installed by the water heater.

 
Quantity:      4
Product:       1156-PCB-xWHP9 White LED Lamp $ 21.95 (each)
Options:       Cool White - 7000K
 
Quantity:      1
Product:       1156-PCB-Axx Amber LED Lamp $ 7.49 (each)
Options:       24-LED
 
Quantity:      1
Product:       WLED-6V 1-LED bulb $ 0.79 (each)
Options:       White 0.60
 
Hope this helps anyone
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Post by: austinado16 on Jun 15, 2009, 12:27 AM
First camping trip with my LED's:

Finally got to camp, and it was a great test for the LEDs.  All I can say is, love 'em.

With just one overhead "bulb" lit, there's plenty of light for "normal" stuff.  We lit both "bulbs" if we were doing something like playing a board game, reading, or something else where we wanted more bright light.

We were camping 3 days/nights.  Ran the Duo-Therm furnace in the late afternoon/early evenings before going to bed, but the Wave 6 Catalytic ran all night to save battery voltage.

Arrived with 12.84v in the battery and left with 12.43v.  Never could have pulled off 3 days/nights with the incandescants and heater useage, so I'm pretty happy.  Especially when I think that we were down in the trees and it was overcast the entire time, so even the nicest several-thousand-dollar solar system would have been useless.

$125 well spent IMO.
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Post by: SheBantam on Jun 21, 2009, 03:49 PM
I think I am going to cheat a little here.  Dollar Tree had the LED touch lights for a $1.00 each...I bought 3 and am going to try them out for dry camping since I am such a woose and cannot figure out the instructions to hook up a battery to the Jayco.  Instructions WERE given in another thread.  So for the $40 I would spend changeing over my lights (If I could really do it...) I could buy a whole case of the touch lights...IF they workout...
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Post by: A2SuperCrew on Jun 22, 2009, 08:54 AM
We use one TouchLight over our sink.  It's not nearly as bright as the LED's we have in our overheads, but just fine for bed-time tasks at the sink.  It's also nice to have a light we can turn on when minimal light is needed.

We LOVE the LED's in our overheads!  They're the 36-LED ones from superbrightleds.com.
Title: My new LEDs
Post by: kwatson51 on Jun 22, 2009, 11:14 PM
OK, It's been a while since I've posted. Not a whole lot of camping activity yet this year.
But I must share this since I haven't seen these mentioned on the forum.
I was in search of some nice LED fixtures 'cause I didn't like the ones that came with the PUP from the factory.
I found these for $29.95 each. They have about the same depth as the stock units (won't interfere with closing the PUP), have 120 lumens of nice warm white light. Got them Saturday, installed them Saturday and I am very impressed! Leaving for the CG (dry camping) on Wednesday, so we should do well on battery usage.
http://www.swego.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=406

They also have round ones:
http://www.swego.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=343

and bare bulbs (sorry. no connectors on the ends):
http://www.swego.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=59&idproduct=332

I had them shipped USPS Priority Mail, so I got them in about 3 days.

Plans are to convert the remainder of my existing fixtures (bunk-end lights) with the bare-bulb.
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Post by: austinado16 on Jun 23, 2009, 12:22 PM
Thanks for posting this and for the links Keith!  I saw your post over on PUX and was looking at the square light fixtures yesterday.

120 lumens and 3,300k warm light.  Man, I wish I hadn't just spent $125 for the 9LED 92 lumen version from SuperbriteLEDs.com.

Always something better around the corner isn't there!
Title: Report on my new LEDs
Post by: kwatson51 on Jun 29, 2009, 10:51 PM
Well, returned yesterday from 5 days in a Federal campground in the mountains, dry camping.
All I can say about the new LEDs is "awesome"! Will never go back to regular bulbs. Had plenty of light and my battery lasted quite well with just my little solar panel to tweak the charge.
Too bad they don't make affordable LEDs for home use (yet).
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Post by: Tall Tom on Aug 04, 2009, 01:38 PM
Just returned from 15 days of dry camping.  The new LEDS from super bright worked wonderfully as did the Pop-up Gizmo reflective blankets.  Took an extra Group 27 Battery to supplement my Group 24, did just great.  Expect I'll flip the axel this winter (bent my rear bumper dragging) to make the camper better for rough conditions.  

The really great thing was two weeks vacation, 5,000 miles traveled; total cost less than $900!!!!!  Only $47 in camping fees.  Does it get any better than this?:-()
Title: LED Warning
Post by: Recumbentman on Aug 04, 2009, 02:06 PM
We just came back from ten days of camping. I installed by LED's a year ago and during our trip one of my LED's boards half of the LED's went out. I mean of the 36 LED's on the board 12 to 18 of the bulbs went out. So I am not to happy about paying so much and now they are starting to break down.
In all fairness I did not get the double sided tape and stick the LED board to the top side of the light fixture. I just let the board hang freely within the light cover. So the bouncing around while in travel might have caused this to happen. Don't know :confused: but it kinda makes sense. I am going to get the double sided tape for my other LED's and only time will tell if this is an issue with them :mad:
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Post by: BirdMan on Aug 05, 2009, 02:02 PM
Quote from: Recumbentman;208602We just came back from ten days of camping. I installed by LED's a year ago and during our trip one of my LED's boards half of the LED's went out. I mean of the 36 LED's on the board 12 to 18 of the bulbs went out. So I am not to happy about paying so much and now they are starting to break down.
In all fairness I did not get the double sided tape and stick the LED board to the top side of the light fixture. I just let the board hang freely within the light cover. So the bouncing around while in travel might have caused this to happen. Don't know :confused: but it kinda makes sense. I am going to get the double sided tape for my other LED's and only time will tell if this is an issue with them :mad:

So maybe the title of this should be "Install Warning" vs "LED Warning". LOL! :D  So far I have not had any problems with the LED's.  The two inside LED's I have up with double sided tape and the one outside, connector type 1156, I use a piece of velcro to take it off when packing up and keep it in one of the inside drawers.  These LED's don't survive well if they get wet.
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Post by: AZCAMPPINAL on Aug 23, 2009, 07:48 AM
I purchased two of the Coleman mini string lights (lantern) and attached them to my bow tops. Puts out quite a bit of light and runs on AA batteries. Camp trip in Dec. and Jan. I also have mini christmas light that I attach to my tent.
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Post by: austinado16 on Aug 23, 2009, 10:54 AM
Quote from: Recumbentman;208602We just came back from ten days of camping. I installed by LED's a year ago and during our trip one of my LED's boards half of the LED's went out. I mean of the 36 LED's on the board 12 to 18 of the bulbs went out. So I am not to happy about paying so much and now they are starting to break down.
In all fairness I did not get the double sided tape and stick the LED board to the top side of the light fixture. I just let the board hang freely within the light cover. So the bouncing around while in travel might have caused this to happen. Don't know :confused: but it kinda makes sense. I am going to get the double sided tape for my other LED's and only time will tell if this is an issue with them :mad:

Recumbentman.....what the h:yikes:ll were you thinking?  

Yes, the banging around killed your LED's.  The good news is, you can buy the LED's and solder them in and fix what you have.

I've got 4 of the 9LED PCB's mounted with double sided tape and they've been fine. Same with the 24 or 36LED I mounted inside my porch light.  I don't remove it, and it's been fine.
Title: Love em
Post by: jpcjtrtj on Aug 26, 2009, 10:19 PM
Just put in my own LEDs in tonight -- in the garage no less (my neighbors are convinced we're nuts).  The lights are awesome.  I first bought the wedge sockets and then found I had 1156 bulbs in the main cabin.  Oh well, now I have three backup bulbs for the utility light and the outside light.  The interior lights work great.  Not quite as bright, but now I won't have to yell to the kids to turn off the lights when we don't have hook ups.  thanks all for the advice and suggestions.
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Post by: G Bird on Sep 01, 2009, 12:19 PM
Quote from: austinado16;206859Thanks for posting this and for the links Keith!  I saw your post over on PUX and was looking at the square light fixtures yesterday.

120 lumens and 3,300k warm light.  Man, I wish I hadn't just spent $125 for the 9LED 92 lumen version from SuperbriteLEDs.com.

Always something better around the corner isn't there!


In reference to the fixtures that Keith linked to -- where did you find those specs? I have looked and don't see them.

Thanks, Gary.
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Post by: G Bird on Sep 01, 2009, 12:22 PM
Quote from: kwatson51;206838OK, It's been a while since I've posted. Not a whole lot of camping activity yet this year.
But I must share this since I haven't seen these mentioned on the forum.
I was in search of some nice LED fixtures 'cause I didn't like the ones that came with the PUP from the factory.
I found these for $29.95 each. They have about the same depth as the stock units (won't interfere with closing the PUP), have 120 lumens of nice warm white light. Got them Saturday, installed them Saturday and I am very impressed! Leaving for the CG (dry camping) on Wednesday, so we should do well on battery usage.
http://www.swego.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=406

They also have round ones:
http://www.swego.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=343

and bare bulbs (sorry. no connectors on the ends):
http://www.swego.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=59&idproduct=332

I had them shipped USPS Priority Mail, so I got them in about 3 days.

Plans are to convert the remainder of my existing fixtures (bunk-end lights) with the bare-bulb.


okay, so I should have asked Keith this. Where did you find the specs?
Title: First official trip with the LEDs
Post by: jpcjtrtj on Sep 08, 2009, 12:14 AM
they work great.  I'm too dumb to figure out the load on the battery, so I'll take ya'll's word that I'm saving power.  I got plenty of light, but there's a weird yellowish nature to the reading light . . . but I'll get used to it I'm sure.

My question:  One of the lights has 3 diodes that keep flickering.  Can this be fixed?  If so, how?  If not, I assume superbrights will send me a replacement?
Title: really cheap price on LED lights
Post by: handfixer on Sep 08, 2009, 12:21 AM
Hey Gang,

My sister told me about a website with really price on goods.  I was browsing around and I noticed they had LED lights like the ones I bought 4 months ago from superbrightleds for $22 each.  They were selling them for about $6-7 bucks with free shipping.  Looks like its coming from directly from China.  Unfortunately, I converted most of my lights 4 months ago.  Here is a link for one of LEDs lights. I justed wanted share.  I was excited when I seen them.

Website is //www.dealextreme.com

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21290