A short while ago, I mentioned that in some modifications that I was contemplating for my PU I used the term " DECHINTZIFYING" . Now some of the members of this group (either by reading this too fast, too late at night or in an alcoholic haze) have B$$terdized this fine Pennsylvania Dutch term with at least 15 misspellings, and tolerant that I am about mistakes people make (mine most of all) this has got to cease.
I have contacted my Corporate legal counsel, Iben Ribbenuoff, to follow this trail
to its source of deliberate and malicious misprounciations and spelling and to issue a cease and desist order to the major offender(s).
Ole Dan l Webster has this to say;
Chintz-y (chintz se) adj. chintz-i-er, chintz-i-est. 1. of, like, or decorated with chintz. 2. CHEAP or gaudy, 3. miserly
If this kind of thing is not stopped, I am sure that the world will come to an end as we know it. Pretty soon terms like cow tipping will change to mow hipping and through a long series of whispered mispronouncatons and inuendos will become
the dreaded word motorhome. Enough I say!
Thank you for your kind attention.
sammyslaveLarry, Are you on a cell phone?
Sorry, I had to do that![:D]
sammyslaveNo..but I do have a tinfoil hat.
sammyslaveLarry, I stand corrected and have fixed my error in the fix it forum.
Guess I ll have to drink a few more Pale Ale s along with all the other punishees.
sammyslaveAfter speaking with my lawyer, Arn " I m a loya" Tellum, we have just filed a PUT court order to preserve usage, and any variation of the term DESHNITZIFY. It is our position that possession is 90% of the law, and the PUT community has taken possession of the term DESHNITZIFY and adopted it as a colloquial term here on PUT. Therefore, the plaintiffs allegations are baseless since no community member has used the " CH" variation (the main point of difference and the real item of dispute here) of the term, thus we call for a mistrial. Additionally we are countersuing on the grounds that the plaintiff may not have, in fact, spelled the term as stated. Defense counsel will research the PUT archives to retrieve the original post in dispute of the plaintiffs claim. We allege that CH and SH are both left-handed keystroke sequences and is plausible were posted to the board by the plaintiff in the absence of a direct spell check command. So, we are confident the court will order in our favor that there has been no copyright, patent, or trademark infringement and will approve our countersuit seeking reimbursement of all legal counsel fees due to this frivolous lawsuit.
[;)]
sammyslaveSo..its a fight you want eh? Well I can see that word mongers are running amok on this thread. Pretty soon th " N" will disappear and then the moderator will have to take the controls.
" First we kill all the lawyers" !
sammyslaveLarry,
You should be glad that " deshnitzify" has morphed as a PUT language that is moving into the mainstream. Latin died because it didn t evolve with the times.
You re the only one using that s using it in the form of Chinz-y, a form none one can quite comprehend any longer.
Surfcal
sammyslaveJeeze, Ray! Pretty soon we ll be using esperanto. Either that or igpay atenlay.
Whatever happened to the old standards? Bye the way, Latin died because you couldn t dance to it. Just imagine watching Grease in Latin.
sammyslavePoint of Parliamentary Procedure, if you please:
If you look at the archives of the old board, I believe you will find that I actually *did* define the term " deschnitzify" to be derived from the original Sammyslavian text of " dechinzify" . Moreover, however, and forthwith, dechinzify was determined to mean altering, modifying, repairing, or replacing that which " chizifies" a recreational vehicle. Chinzify was further determined to define that which, through intentional, negligent, or haphazard design and construction, imparts to said recreational vehicle the inherent strength of schnitzel.
Thus, *Deschnitzify* stands as a colloquial term used in a popular internet pop-up camper forum, and revered as " The King s English" by a certain collection of miscreants, oddballs, rabble-rousers, and granola ingredients (fruits, nuts, and flakes) collectively known as Nick-Neff-Cough, and is further defined as an action, or process, through which various parts, problems, or systems of pop-up, hybrid, and other forms of recreational vehicles, are enhanced, invigorated, improved, and generally " made better" .
Whew! (Taking deep breath) Ok, was that simple enough???
[:)][:D][;)]
sammyslaveThis is a California thing, isn t it?
sammyslaveNot being a lawyer, but pretending to be one when it suits my purposes, and being capable of long sentences that no one can quite understand, I am compelled to file this Friend of the Court Brief.
First, we feel that in this current matter (sammyslave vs. various board members, et al.), that there is an alternate and overlooked orign for the term " deshnitzify" , as an adaptation of " deSnitzify" , defined as " the process of moving the boards from the previous format (a.k.a. Snitz forms )" to the current form (a.k.a. " ASP Playground Forum SQL v1.96.23" ). Since there is little or no real proof that either word origin is the actual origin, we feel the court should rule that all actions by all parties to have no basis and therefore to be null and void.
Second, we further urge the court to consider that no evidence has been presented of monetary or property damages and therefore no financial renumerations or corrections can be made.
Third, the plaintiff (sammyslave) has failed to show that this court even has juristicion over this matter. Since the board members reside in various states, and since the board itself resides in and is hosted by an organization in Virginia, we feel that this court may not even have juristiction over this matter.
Austin
sammyslaveIn lieu of The Honorable Boston s pre-trial hearing statement regarding jurisdictional boundaries, defense presents to Plaintiff a plea bargain, agreeing in principle to use of the term DESCHNITZIFY as currently defined in Nick-Neff-Cough Bylaw #7:
EXHIBIT A:
DESCHNITZIFY (or any variation of so long as no less than " SH" are used):#7: Any repair, modification, or malady solved shall be referred to as " deshnitzifying" the popup.
In return, Defense hereby withdraws countersuit alleging Plaintiff s keystroke sequence error and agrees to abide by Webster s definition of DECHINTZIFY as defined by Plaintiff:
EXHIBIT B:
DECHINTZIFY: (1. of, like, or decorated with chintz. 2. CHEAP or gaudy, 3. miserly.)
As evidenced by Exhibits A and B, respectively, DESCHNITZIFY and DECHINTZIFY are distinct terms with independent definitions. Defense believes both terms may peacefully coexist, pursuant to their definitions without further debate and absent confusion among the PUT community. Defense, in forthcoming agreement from Plaintiff, hereafter considers this matter resolved and legally binding.
sammyslave
QuoteThis is a California thing, isn t it?
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Bob (Trlrboy) & Patty (DW)
2000 Coleman Santa Fe & 2000 Ford Explorer
Trlrboy photos & NTPUCA
It might seem like a California thing, but it s a really just a Nick-Neff-Cough thing. What fun we have...camping or otherwise!
sammyslaveIf the word don t fit, you must quit.
Johnny Cochran on PUT 2003
sammyslaveI can really relate to Sammyslave s frustration because for about fifteen years I have been trying to get a word added into the English language. Currently we use the word COMPUTING to describe using a computer. However, to me COMPUTING is the wrong word---it is a WORK word---like computing a list of numbers into an answer.
As this group knows, COMPUTERS are much more than that, so I think the word COMPUTERING should be used, as in. " Scott, what are you doing tonight?" Reply: I m just doing some computering, maybe going on the PUT Boards...hmm, PUTTING or PUTTERING?
Therefore I can fully relate to Sammyslave s frustration, of having invented a perfectly great word, DECHINZIFY, only to have it b***ardized, into the now popular DESCHNITZIFY.
But relate or not, empathize or not, want or not, we have to concede an accepted truth, (and Larry I love you man), the way people USE the language determines language. I am certain that the wordsmith Surfcal will back me up on this. For example, remember when " bad" was " bad" and then it suddenly became " good" and remained " good" for so long that now " bad" pronounced baaad means good.
So Larry, and I love you man, I give you credit for inventing the concept and the word DECHINZIFY, bit the word that became popular is DESCHNITZIFY (or some variable spelling of it).
Now I also believe that there is a reasonable solution that will avoid the lawsuits and counter-lawsuits. (Yes, a very California thing)
DESCHNITZIFY: To modify a chinzy feature of a popup. origin: Larry Lehland
DECHINZIFY: see DESCHNITZIFY
Come on guys, can we have a big group hug.
{{{{{{{BIG GROUP HUG}}}}}}}}}}
I knew we could.
Scott, who loves Larry and hopes he doesn t spit in my omlette like he will Sactocampers
gsm x2
QuoteScott, who loves Larry and hopes he doesn t spit in my omlette like he will Sactocampers
Uh........didn t quite think of that when I entered the fray........on second thought......maybe I ll be eating cereal at Chabot! [;)]
But darnit! I had to stand up for DESCHNITZIFY! Everybody LOVES DESCHNITZIFY! and if I wouldn t, then who would?? Even under the threat of blackmail (i.e. saliva projectile in my omelette), I stood up for a worthy cause, and came up with a mutually beneficial solution: The two terms can coexist since they are two different words with two different definitions and used in different contexts. In fact, not only can they coexist, they can be used together in harmony. For example:
" I simultaneously DECHINTZIFIED my popup by removing the faux metal trim as I was DESCHNITZIFYING the leak in my sink faucet."
See? Diplomacy is a beautiful thing!
Now, Scott, you re absolutely right. How the language is used defines it. But you re just trying to stir up the pot with this new, integrated definition of DESCHNITZIFY: [;)]
QuoteDESCHNITZIFY: To modify a chinzy feature of a popup. origin: Larry Lehland
which doesn t serve the interestes of either party. [;)][;)][8D]
So maybe I can have an omelette sans spit?
sammyslaveLarry, I totally understand your concerns. I myself have had some along the same lines. Recently, I asked about the name of our group... Nick-Neff-Cough:
QuoteAnd now for a technical question.... Is the translation of NNC, Nick-Neff-Cough OR Nick-Neff-Coff? I need to know the politically correct title. I saw that the site is Nick-Neff-Cough.org but I was sure that the COFF part meant, something like, Contingent Of Friendly Folk.
This was the answer I received back from Surfcal:
QuoteI don t understand the name either. But do you realize that what we ve done is derive Nick-Neff-Coff from North Central California Non-Exclusive PopUp & Hybrid Camping Organization of Friendly Folks. OK, so the acronym of that is NCCNEPHCOFF which is pronounced Nick-Neck-Cough. Then, we took the pronunciation and made it into a sub-official name and we further whittled it down to it s current incarnation of NNC. It totally doesn t make any sense, but then again, that s Nick-Neff-Cough, the Middle Earth of PUT (PopUPTimes).
This group is infamous for " deriving" words from other words that just don t make sense! I m calling Judge Judy right now! Is there a linquist in the house???
sammyslaveNow I m getting emotional about this. Not only are you all mispelling " DECHINTZIFY" but my best camping buddy mispells my last name.
Here I was, ALMOST ready to accept the boards seemingly unanimous indifference to the LEGAL spelling of a perfectly good word, and this happens! Well this means
WAR! If it wasn t for the fact that I actually have to make a buck today, I would be sitting down with legal counsel and preparing for the fight of the century.
Grumpff.......
sammyslave
QuoteORIGINAL: sammyslave
Now I m getting emotional about this. Not only are you all mispelling " DECHINTZIFY"
...Grumpff.......
Who spelled it wrong? Wasn t me! <nope, not me, and the " edited by" " line LIES!>
sammyslave
QuoteNow I m getting emotional about this. Not only are you all mispelling " DECHINTZIFY" but my best camping buddy mispells my last name
Larry, my virtual BIL, please forgive me.
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" Mom, I did my spelling list 10 times, can I go play now?" And that wasn t any COPY/PASTE job either. And using Georgeanne s helpful spelling tips, " Larry Eats Ham Mornings And Nights" It will never happen again.
It was kind of cool being identified as your best camping buddy. [:)]
Your VBIL,
Scott
sammyslaveWell... I guess we can park Betsy the sheep in Surfcal s upgraded DECHINTZIFIED
PU and I will have to plan something a little more appealing for breakfast.
sammyslaveFirst it was inflatable dolls and now a sheep.
Do I look that desperate?
Surfcal
sammyslaveRay, I figured that since you will be dry camping. (no electric bed warmer, TV and coffee pot) a little companion to keep you warm would be appreciated. Unless, of course, you happen to have a heck of a long extension cord. You could be in harmony with gsmx2 and g-whiz. Baa Baa, Raccoon scream, various kazoo noises and of course my gentle snoring.
sammyslaveThis is a weird thread. It went from a national discussion on deshnitzifying to my Pop Up companion. And I wasn t even heavily involved in the deshnitzifying issue.
Surfcal
sammyslaveRay,
It s kind of like sitting around the camp fire with the NNC group on a nice warm evening, with the frogs in the background, the stars above, and a really light breeze blowing.
Ya never know when the the smoke s gonna blow in your direction.
If ya can t stand the smoke, go sit in the popup with Betsy the sheep.
gsm x3
sammyslaveMy personal counsel " Dewey, Cheetum & Howe" , stated that we may apply artistic license to ANY term NOT copyrighted, trademarked or otherwise claimed, and I find that the term deSCNITZify is far more descript of the actual OPERATION that takes place and therefore I am sided with those that believe preservation of all variations is the prudent approach that should be the guidepost that we strive for as we form a MORE PERFECT NATION....etc. , etc., etc.
Happy Campin <><
sammyslaveAhem?CWB. I make be helping to make the white gravy to go along with the biscuits!
sammyslaveRay...you re safe. Betsy has a date, so I m bringing along 150 of extension cord
so you get to pick one of your favorite comforts to use for the weekend.
sammyslave
QuoteORIGINAL: sammyslave
Ahem?CWB. I make be helping to make the white gravy to go along with the biscuits!
Larry, You and Nick both know how to play me like a fiddle don t you? What to do? WHAT TO DOOOOOOOOOOOO???
Happy Campin <><
sammyslaveThis whole string of dialoge just goes to prove a old Polish proverb. Which states.
Some of us have to much time on our hands.
And sense this word is Polish and not Penn. Dutch.( I just used Penn. Because i can t spell Pennsylvania.) Word. And sense i am Polish. It means whatever Larry wants it to mean. But if this word ever ends up in the Dictionary i think i will strat talking Russian at least they have neat looking alphabet.
sammyslaveI think that there are more people than originally thought with the affliction known only as missspellathritis. You can usually diagnose people with this disease by putting on a kareoke disc (without the lyrics showing). It is well known that people with missspellathritis also have chronic lyricosis (cannot remember the correct words and make up or use incorrect words when singing a song). The leading authority on its symptoms and the cure is Dr. Vinny Boombaa. I would encourage many of you to contact him before it is too late.
sammyslavePlease Send me his E-mail Address So i can see him. This doct whatis mane. As i do seam to be affilcted with tihs desase. Waths it again Missepllathritits.
The sooner the better. Thanks Tim
sammyslaveOk, if at first.... yada, yada, yada.... I m posting here as I m not able to post on the NNC threads. Since no one else has posted there since yesterday, maybe you all have that problem. I m not sure what the procedure is for follow up on Lake Chabot and I need " clarification" so I ll just post this and wait and see what happens.
g-whizHi G-whiz,
We re waiting for them to activate the NNC forum. I moved the Chabot thread over there before realizing that forum was inactive. If you want, you can start a new thread back at the " Reyes the Roof" rally and I will move it over to the NNC forum once it is activated. Or, you could start a thread on our Yahoo! board. But you re right, we need to reconnect to iron things out for this weekend.[:D]
sammyslaveI moved the chabot thread back to Reyes the Roof until they get the NNC forum fixed.
NickThanks Nick & Sactocamper! It looks like the Wine and Cheese portion of the NCC etc. is now working. I haven t checked the others.