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Title: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: ShirleyT on Sep 28, 2003, 07:05 PM
 Are you tired of dumping that potty?
 
 Then you need the [link=http://store.yahoo.com/sancor/index.html]Envirolet[/link]!! With Envirolet there are no more trips to the waste station, no fuss and muss. Just let the aerobic microbes and the small bit of peat moss break down the waste and soon you too can grow a beautiful garden!
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: brainpause on Aug 23, 2003, 11:35 AM
 ShirleyTUmmm...yuck.
 
 Not to mention...if someone were to grow vegetables in their " garden,"  that would pose a serious health hazard. That s why we don t use honeywagons in America for fertilizer.
 
 Larry
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: tlhdoc on Aug 23, 2003, 12:32 PM
 ShirleyTbrainpause I hate to break it to you but they do use honeywagons in the good old US of A fro fertilizer.  I had my vehicle hit by flying sh#$ one day when the farmer was spreading near the road.  I never saw one that flung the stuff so far.
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: mike4947 on Aug 23, 2003, 02:36 PM
 ShirleyTTracu, you ll find that manure and manure based fertilizers used for food based " gardens"  and farms are from herbivours.
 Carnivours and Omnivours dung can t be used as they contain much more toxin substances. I don t know all the chemistry, but it was explained to me that the latter two are higher on the food chain and concentrate toxins.
 It s one reason why cattle feed lot s don t have a problem disposing  of waste while pig farms do.
 The evirolet and other " electric toilets"  aren t new, for example in Japan where sewage treatment plants & septic tank fields have to compete for ground space they are used in  apx 20% of residential housing and in certain areas are required in new construction
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: tlhdoc on Aug 23, 2003, 03:35 PM
 mike4947
 
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 Tracu, you ll find that manure and manure based fertilizers used for food based " gardens"  and farms are from herbivores.
 
 

 I knew about the herbivores, but I didn t know about Japan.  Thanks for the information.
 
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: tlhdoc on Aug 23, 2003, 03:38 PM
 mike4947
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  mike4947
 
 Tracu, you ll find that manure and manure based fertilizers used for food based " gardens"  and farms are from herbivours.
 
 

 I knew about the herbivores, but I didn t know about Japan thanks for the info.
 
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: wiininkwe on Aug 23, 2003, 06:46 PM
 ShirleyTHoly Crap!!!
 Back in the late 1970 s and early 1980 s, I went thru a period of my life that I can only call my " back to earth"  stage.  I read Mother Earth News magazine voraciously, and took many hints and tips that I found there seriously enough to have raised for 3 years running a garden that was only 12 ft x 12 ft. but so packed full of crops that no one could believe I had the gardening skills to do.  Anyway, I m way off the topic and I m sorry.  The reason that I bring this up is because way back then the Mother Earth News was publishing articles and ads for  toilets  such as this one.   It s definitely not a new concept, but one that could really solve some problems if there was a way to sterilize the resulting product.   When raw material is composted using the conventional manner, there is high heat produced during the composting process that does this to some extent, so it seems like there should be a way to generate heat for this toilet, making the composted material safe for use.  Even if only on lawns or flower beds or something non edible.
 T
 [;)]
 
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: aw738 on Aug 23, 2003, 07:49 PM
 ShirleyTIf the heat in the composting contaier becomes to high it would kill all of the micro-organisms rendering the " fertilizer"  useless.
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: ShirleyT on Aug 23, 2003, 10:37 PM
 ShirleyTDon t think I would want to use one of these[: (]. I was just trying out my commercial voice on this product[:D].  Since I didn t make any sales guess I better find another career[:(].
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Post by: MommaMia on Aug 23, 2003, 11:26 PM
 ShirleyTHoly Sheep S&#T Batman!!!  Look at the price of that thing!
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: mike4947 on Aug 24, 2003, 12:53 AM
 ShirleyTThey are expensive, but if you look at the price of the piping need to hook up a toilet and in the case of rural area a septic tank and drain field it becomes very, very cheap.
 These are also becoming popular in watershed areas. There traditional septic tanks are no longer allowed and the only other choice is a vault and monthly pumping or an old fashioned out house.
 Some versions we saw in Japan not only dry the waste but actually turn it into ash.
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: aw738 on Aug 24, 2003, 08:37 AM
 ShirleyTJust had a new septic tank and leach bed put in last month cost $1950.
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Post by: wssfetch on Aug 24, 2003, 09:27 PM
 ShirleyTAround here sewage sludge is a hot item as a fertilizer.  And has anyone ever used Milorganite in their gardens?  It is a commercially available fertilizer made from sludge from Milwaukee sewage.
 
 
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: whitestar505 on Aug 25, 2003, 06:05 AM
 mike4947mike4947,
 
     Mike, my in laws at Skaneateles Lake were made to have one installed because the county done away with the bucket service. When we were there in July, every time the electric went out we had to get out of the camp.  This is not something I wold want to use due to the smell and the time it takes to operate it. What a pain in the neck....
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: MommaMia on Aug 25, 2003, 10:24 AM
 wssfetchI don t think I ll be using anything that has the word " sludge"  anywhere around my gardens!!!  I get the idea, but EEWW!
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: birol on Aug 25, 2003, 12:19 PM
 ShirleyTThis is a sick sick sick thread [8D][8D][8D][8D]
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: ShirleyT on Aug 25, 2003, 02:47 PM
 birol
 
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 This is a sick sick sick thread [8D][8D][8D][8D]
 

 
 It is not meant to be a sick thread birol[8D]. But it is a pretty shi**y subject! [:o][:D][:D]
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: birol on Aug 25, 2003, 05:46 PM
 ShirleyT
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QuoteORIGINAL:  birol
 
 This is a sick sick sick thread [8D][8D][8D][8D]
 

 
 It is not meant to be a sick thread birol[8D]. But it is a pretty shi**y subject! [:o][:D][:D]
 
EEEwwwww sicker than sh***y eeeewwwwwwwww. [:D]
 
 I wonder how I will ever empty the porta potti !
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: griffsmom on Aug 25, 2003, 06:04 PM
 ShirleyTWhat in the heck is a honeywagon?
 
 Is my city-girl-ness showing? [;)][:)]
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: ShirleyT on Aug 25, 2003, 07:22 PM
 birol
 
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 I wonder how I will ever empty the porta potti !
 

 
 Oh dumping the porta potti is easy enough. I pay my daughter to do it! [:D] She doesn t seem to mind dumping it and actually she uses it more than I do. Just remember to get the chemical to put in it. I actually like the packets better than the liquid, it just seems to work better. NEVER EVER use a porta potti without the chemicals! You will want to just trash the potti and get a new one! (My cousin did that and she gagged for about a half hour after dumping her potti [: (])
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Post by: Tim5055 on Aug 25, 2003, 08:36 PM
 griffsmom
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 What in the heck is a honeywagon?
 
 Is my city-girl-ness showing? [;)][:)]
 

 Some campgrounds have a truck that comes around and pumps out your black/grey water tanks ...The honeywagon
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: ShirleyT on Aug 25, 2003, 09:54 PM
 tim5055
 
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 Some campgrounds have a truck that comes around and pumps out your black/grey water tanks ...The honeywagon
 

 
 Thanks for clearing that up tim. I didn t know what a honeywagon was either. But sure doesn t seem like honey to me! [: (]
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Post by: wahoonc on Aug 25, 2003, 10:08 PM
 tim5055Honeywagon[:D] They have lots of other names too[8D] I work heavy construction...everytime we see one of the pump trucks coming everybody leaves the area.[: (] BTW they use " honey wagons"  to pump septic tanks, grease pits and the like too. Also one of the local Public Utilities has a huge farm area where they spread the end product of the local sewage treatment plant, ever seen 12  high corn before[:D]? BTW in China the omnivore waste is also used in bio-gas generators, where you dump all sorts of things in a closed containment system, it creates methane gas, which can then be used for heating, electrical generation, etc. But they can get uhhhhhhh shall we say...RIPE?!![: (][:o]
 
 Nice topic Shirley[;)]
 
 Aaron[:)]
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: topcat7736 on Aug 25, 2003, 10:28 PM
 tim5055Shoot. I thought the potti emptying days were finally over. [:(]
 
 In their " portable store" , they do have one for RV s.......the Visa Potti. You can get dissolving toilet paper and all the chemicals to go with it. Guess I ll just stick with our tried & true Thetford 155.
 
 The more things change, the more they stay the same. [>:]
Title: RE: Are you tired of dumping that potty?
Post by: griffsmom on Aug 26, 2003, 12:07 PM
 tim5055
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  tim5055
 
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  griffsmom
 
 What in the heck is a honeywagon?
 
 Is my city-girl-ness showing? [;)][:)]
 

 Some campgrounds have a truck that comes around and pumps out your black/grey water tanks ...The honeywagon
 

 You learn something everyday!  Thanks Tim!  I can always count on you! [:D]