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Title: Name question ?
Post by: birol on Apr 27, 2004, 10:39 AM
MommaMia or anyone ......

Is Cindy a full name or nick name like Bill is for William ?  Curious ......



Naive Birol talking :)


WE NEED A TURKISH FLAG AS AN ICON !
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Post by: MommaMia on Apr 27, 2004, 10:50 AM
Quote from: birolMommaMia or anyone ......

Is Cindy a full name or nick name like Bill is for William ?  Curious ......



Naive Birol talking :)


WE NEED A TURKISH FLAG AS AN ICON !

Cindy is usually a nick-name for Cynthia, but in this case. Cindy is my given name.  Actually, no, it's not.  I just found out a couple years ago that when my father named me, (yes, my father insisted that he gets to name the kids, regardless of what my mom thought of the name) dad intended for my name to be Cindy-Lee, with no middle name.... but when the birth certificate was typed up and submitted by the army hospital, they put Cindy as the first name and Lee as my middle name.  So dad din't end up actually naming me after all!
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Post by: griffsmom on Apr 27, 2004, 11:05 AM
I'm a Lori--not a Laura or Lauren or Laurel, or Lorraine, or Loretta.  Just plain ol Lori.  I guess my mom didn't have a lot of faith in how smart I might be and thought she'd better keep it simple, just in case. ;)
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Apr 27, 2004, 11:20 AM
Our youngest DD, I wanted to name JenniAnn (1 name), but DH didn't like it, so I had to settle for Jennifer Ann.  Since she has gone from Jenny to Jenny Ann to Jennifer back to Jenny and now Jenn.

 
and the sure get birth certificates wrong.  FIL was supposed to Harvey William, but they typed his first name as William, so legally he had to go with William, but the family always called him Harvey; so at family things you had to know who you were talking to as to how you would reference him :eyecrazy:
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Post by: griffsmom on Apr 27, 2004, 11:26 AM
My ds's original birth certificate merely says "baby boy" for his first name--his birthmother chose to not give him a name because she wanted to let us name him.  (The birth certificate issued after his adoption was final lists his full name given to him by us.)
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Post by: birol on Apr 27, 2004, 11:29 AM
Talking about names, both kids are considering a legal name change, Turkish names are difficult to pronounce and stand out too much. DD has already adapted Karen, and DS is undecided, but maybe Jack ....... Time will show I guess. I love it when they ask us if it would be ok with us when they decide to go ahead with name changes. It is not like we will say no, and they would not listen to us if we said no anyways, they will  probably adults by the time they get around to it.

You can always call me Birol  ;)
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Post by: Michicampers on Apr 27, 2004, 11:52 AM
Cindy, that's pretty funny. I had a stuffed cat when I was a little girl because I was allergic to live ones, and I named it Cynthia after my babysitter down the street (although I pronounced it "Thynthia".) My sister's name is Judy, not Judith, but often people think her given name must be Judith. My dad had a really long name, he was the 7th generation with it, but his mother always wanted to name him Bill. So Bill was his nickname, and sometimes he would get junk mail addressed to William, even though his given name was Sylvanus. My mom's given name is Florence, but everyone calls her Betty (short for Elizabeth, her middle name), because her mother was a Florence also. My in-laws are Val and Sig - Val is my FIL and Sig is my MIL, but often people assume it is the other way around. Val is short for Valentino, which he had legally changed to Valentine decades ago because he was tired of being ribbed about it, but old relatives still call him Tino. My MIL's given name is Sigrid. Birol, are you confused yet?  :eyecrazy: BTW, my Turkish neighbor's name is Yuksel - cool name, easy to remember. I don't think he has a nickname (although maybe his wife has one for him  :rolleyes:  !)
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Post by: griffsmom on Apr 27, 2004, 11:57 AM
My dh's parents were abit short on creativity when they named their kids.
 
 
DH is Carl David after his father and grandfather, but he goes by Dave, which doesn't make sense since his father (to his own family) did too, but he was Carl at work .  DH's sister is Dessie Lynn, after his mother, who is just Dessie--no middle name. DH's sister goes by Lynn at home and Dessie professionally (explain that to me!:confused: )  Dh's brother is Clifford Kevin. After they had to come up with a name on their own, they stopped having kids! :J
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Post by: AustinBoston on Apr 27, 2004, 12:32 PM
PJay once cut checks for a company with an employee who's parents had just arrived in the US when  she was born.  Either they liked the preliminary name, or they didn't know how to get their chosen name on the birth certificate, but this girl went by Female.  She pronounced it FEM-a-LEE.  It was on her birth certificate and social security card.

Austin
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Post by: birol on Apr 27, 2004, 01:35 PM
AB, you have a knack for coming up with the weirdest stuff !
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Post by: wiininkwe on Apr 27, 2004, 01:38 PM
When my parents adopted me, they got the call on a spur of the moment.  They hadn't picked out a name, but my Dad and Mom both had brothers that they were very close to.   So, I was named after them.  Toni Dale. :(  Dad's brother was Tony, Mom's was Dale.  (believe it or not, I had a perfectly good name to start with, Marlene.  Altho now I just can't picture myself as a Marlene:confused: )   Then I met DH, and his name is Richard Dale, and our DS is Richard Dale Jr.  Several years ago, I found my biological sister,:-() and she has an adopted brother whose name is Dale Richard.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:  As I was growing up, the boy next door was named Tim Dale, and my DD married a guy with a brother named Dale.  The funniest is that I have a cousin Richard, and he married a woman named Toni.  You should see the confusion at family get togethers.:eyecrazy:
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Post by: 4campinfoxes on Apr 27, 2004, 01:42 PM
Had a friend in high school who was named Kathy, she got so tired of people telling her she couldn't put a nickname on an official form.  She hated her name.  Her daughters are Katherine, Elizabeth & Victoria - all full names!


Sharon
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Post by: jpreiser on Apr 27, 2004, 01:57 PM
I hate when people call my husband Tommy!! His name is thomas, or Tom not TOMMY!!!! Even some of the other police officers call him Tommy... Cracks me up officer Tommy sounds like a name off of a kids show. His family also calls his brother Andy not andrew (his given name) .
 I made sure my kids had names that could not be "changed" :)
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Post by: Kelly on Apr 27, 2004, 02:16 PM
Quote from: jpreiserI made sure my kids had names that could not be "changed" :)
:):)

Had to laugh ~ my sister did just the opposite!  Wanted her kids to be called Cole and Kate ~ BUT you can't name them nicknames so they are Colin and Katharine ... just don't ever call them that!
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Post by: griffsmom on Apr 27, 2004, 02:29 PM
Judging by our posts, it seems clear that a person's name and the process of naming one's children are tremndously important to us as human beings.  Just look how many factors are taken into considerations in the process: should it be a formal name with a nickname, should we just skip directly to the nickname and leave the formal name in the baby book where it belongs, should it be a formal name with nicknames discouraged, should it be after a relative/mentor/celebrity, should the spelling be traditional or tweaked, should it honor our ethnic or cultural heritage...you get the picture.  For me, the two overriding concerns when naming my ds were that 1) young boys would not be able to come up with an effective scatological slur out of it, and 2) the name was unique enough so that there wouldn't be 4 other boys in my son's classroom with the same name, and yet not too unique that he got the snot beaten out of him at school.  :)

 
DH and I went around and around on names for our ds before I finally had to drop the atomic bomb of reasons why I should get to name our child.  Aaaahh, there's nothing like a name battle to put a little black cloud, albeit temporarily, over the excitement that a pregnancy brings.   :p :D ;)
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Post by: brainpause on Apr 27, 2004, 06:40 PM
The first person that calls me Lawrence will be shot on the spot!

Larry (given name)
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Post by: MommaMia on Apr 27, 2004, 07:01 PM
Quote from: brainpauseThe first person that calls me Lawrence will be shot on the spot!

Larry (given name)



ummmmmmmmm.........LAWRENCE!


 :rolleyes: hehehehehhehe
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Post by: birol on Apr 27, 2004, 07:03 PM
Does every given name has a nick name which goes with it ?
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Post by: MommaMia on Apr 27, 2004, 07:14 PM
Quote from: birolDoes every given name has a nick name which goes with it ?


Nope... especially not if the given name is what is typically thought of as a nick name. Or if the given name is a really short, simple name like DDs... Zoe and Lea or DS, Noah.
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Post by: Michicampers on Apr 27, 2004, 08:27 PM
Quote from: birolDoes every given name has a nick name which goes with it ?
Mine is just Dawn, unless I am in a really bad mood, at which time DH calls me Dark Dawn :Z .
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Post by: tlhdoc on Apr 27, 2004, 09:05 PM
No nick name for me, Tracy is my given name.  I did drop my middle name when I got married so I only have a first and last name. :)
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Post by: tlhdoc on Apr 27, 2004, 09:11 PM
We had friends who named their children-Debby, Cindy, Donald Jr. (called Buddy), Randy and Barbie.

Funny story.  Randy's best friend was in the military stationed in England.  The friend fell in love and married an English woman.  Randy went to England to be the best man.

In England Randy is not a name,  but an adjective
1 chiefly Scottish : having a coarse manner
2 : LUSTFUL, LECHEROUS  :yikes:

Randy was teased a lot in England.
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Post by: vjm1639 on Apr 28, 2004, 09:11 AM
My son is Bo...and I don't think we ever enrolled him in a school, ball team, or anything where they didn't say, "No, we need his REAL name."
 
Actually, Vicki is just Vicki...not Victoria,  and Bill...is NOT for William..his real name is Billy.  ;>
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Post by: startx on Apr 28, 2004, 09:38 AM
Oh the name game, it's a big responsibility isn't it?  Something that isn't too serious for childhood, but doesn't seem to flippant when they are adults.  I have known several people that had names as adults that were a bit embarrasing.  I mean grown men shouldn't be called Rickie, but they are if that is their given name.  Ok, so you want a Rickie, name the poor kid Richard, and call him Rickie, then at least when he is an adult he can be Richard if he wants.

Birol, the nicknames I think are cultural.  Culturally many formal names have common nicknames.  Actually a nickname caused us to change our son's middle name, we were to name him Kaleb William, but when my MIL said oh good, I'll call him Willy, I decided his name would be Kaleb Alexander.  Alex is a lot better than Willy in my humble opinion, but it didn't matter, he's Kaleb, doesn't go by a middle name, and Kaleb is too short to make into a nickname.

The girls have rather long names, and we did shorten Kaitlind to Kaity for the longest time, but when she started school she insisted her name was Kaitlind, so we are pretty much out of the habit of calling her Kaity, and she reminds us if we slip.

Kayleigh already kind of sounds like a nickname, and some of the family tried calling Kamryn Kami, but it just didn't fit, so they pretty much dropped it.  She has another nickname though that that she will probably grow to hate, Kayleigh can't enunciate Kamryn, and ends up sounding like Kitten, the older kids picked up on it, and she is kitten to most of the family.  I see many a fight coming in the future as she tries to make them stop calling her kitten.  Kayleigh is a lot closer to saying Kamryn now, but the nickname has already stuck.
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Post by: B-flat on Apr 28, 2004, 10:03 PM
Well, this will probably make some folks laugh, but don't name your dog with anything similar to what one of the children's name sounds like.....I would say something to the dog and my daughter would be on the other end of the house and ask  what I wanted.  Go figure. :J  :D  :rolleyes:
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Post by: NightOwl on Apr 29, 2004, 12:13 AM
MY DH's actual name is  "Billy"  (yo, LARRY--we understand!) and someone is always thinking they are clever and calling him "William" He stopped correcting them long ago--it was a losing battle.  This "Y ending"  is a very common thing to do in the South--name a boy with what the rest of us might think of as a nickname.  There are lots o grown men around here named things like Tommmy and Billy and Bobby and Johnny  and, yes, Larry, and they are NOT nicknames.

And girls here get called --"Willeen" for instance or Joeleen or Carleen, all named for their fathers.  and  Billy has a cousin with the unusual name of "Neecis"  

There are also some men in the area with names that are actually initials like C O  and O B (their  REAL names) and I went to school in Coral Gables with a kid named J R (no, not Jr, but J R (not initials!)


Names are a funny thing.  Very personal and very important and I keep running into people (especially in this  area)  who have really weird or hideous first names.  If I had been them, I'd have grown up to axe-murder my parents..

For a year in a Chicago suburb we lived near some people named  Sinovovich and you can imagine how the school kids pronounced THAT--their little boy was always getting into fights.)  And  we  know some people  locally whose last name is Hunsucker and folks  made  fun of their name and some of them ended up in trouble with the law--even in  jail.  And you have to wonder-----
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Post by: birol on Apr 29, 2004, 06:38 AM
Touchy subject :) I never thought I would learn this much :)
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Post by: brainpause on Apr 29, 2004, 09:25 AM
Interesting points, Elisa.

Matter of fact, I had a few people that, when I was younger, called me Larry Joe (and my middle name is Mark). Must be a southern thang.

I also know a J.W. (real name, doesn't stand for anything.) I also know a "John C. Hall." That may not sound unusual, but he is known as "John C," or, "John See." He is an older fellow, and I have known John C for as long as I can remember.

Larry