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Title: Firewood is expensive
Post by: flbuilder on May 06, 2004, 02:59 PM
What do you guys do for firewood when you camp?  I've discovered the hard way that if you wait until you get to the campground and pay $5 or more for a dozen pieces, that you can easily go through $10 - $15 worth of wood per night.  There has to be a cheaper way, but most state parks won't let you scrounge through the woods.  Where do you get cheap firewood?
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Post by: birol on May 06, 2004, 03:12 PM
I think a lot of us carry it. I can't carry, so after checking in, I bought it from the side of the road sellers at a better price. Like three dozen or so for 5 bucks, it was cheap ! Buying them at the CG is too expensive ! Anything at the CG is expensive ! :compumad:
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Post by: brainpause on May 06, 2004, 03:42 PM
We used to buy a lot of firewood at cg's and nearby, but last year I bought a 1/2 rick of wood for $25. That amount of wood filled my Nissan pickup, mounded over. BIG load. We have used it for our patio fireplace too. About time to get some more, but it is way more than the 5-7 bundles that $25 would have bought.

Larry
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Post by: flbuilder on May 06, 2004, 04:04 PM
Maybe a dumb question...

How much is in a rick of wood and where do you get it?
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Post by: tlhdoc on May 06, 2004, 08:29 PM
We try to take our own.  If we don't have the space I buy from road side vender's if possible.  We have had some wood given to us and we have some from our old apple tree.  Last year I got some 4 X 8 or 10 pieces of dry oak from work.  That make a great bed of coals for cooking on. :)
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Post by: brainpause on May 06, 2004, 08:34 PM
Quote from: flbuilderMaybe a dumb question...

How much is in a rick of wood and where do you get it?

Not a dumb question at all. I am not sure of the answer, but a half a rick mounded my truck pretty good (with a large toolbox in it). I am trying to remember the size of the stack when the cutter was measuring it....seems like it was four feet wide, about four feet tall, one layer thick. Not sure though....

Larry
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Post by: brainpause on May 06, 2004, 08:39 PM
Quote from: flbuilderMaybe a dumb question...

How much is in a rick of wood and where do you get it?

I stand corrected...I found the following on the internet:

"4x8 feet x16 inches (commonly called a rick)."

That would amount to 42.67 cubic feet of wood. My measurements I gave in the above post would be about 21 cubic feet of wood, so maybe I did guess pretty accurately, since I bought a HALF rick of wood.

On edit: Just for comparison, a CORD of wood is equal to 128 cubic feet of wood. Depending on who you talk to and where you read, a RICK of wood is 1/3 to 1/4 of a cord. Of course, by the above calculations, it is 1/3 cord.

Larry
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Post by: Gone-Camping on May 06, 2004, 08:39 PM
I have never found the room to carry firewood, let alone been able to cope with the added weight. We generally do the scavenger method, as most parks and campgrounds have the "No standing timber" rules, but that leaves what ever is down free for the taking. Around here that used to be slim pickins, but Hurricane Isabel changed all that, there are still downed tree's everywhere you look! Get out in the parks and forest there are huge quanitities of downed wood, and now pretty well seasoned! At Pocahontas SP during the Spring Fling, the camp host ENCOURAGED us to gather as much as we could. They do sell firewood there, but with so many downed tree's it was a total free for all on firewood.
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Post by: garym053 on May 06, 2004, 09:44 PM
Depends! Usually we camp in state parks and they have a tough enough time financially so I buy the wood from NH and VT state parks, usually priced about $2.00 for an armload which equals 8 to 10 sticks of varying sizes. Mass State Parks charge $5.00 for 5 or 6 pieces of wood in a plastic bag, so we generally bring our own or buy it from a road side vendor! By the time I load coolers, propane, kayaks, paddles PFD's, Safety and Rescue equipment for Kayaking, there is not much room for wood!
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Post by: aw738 on May 06, 2004, 09:57 PM
Quote"4x8 feet x16 inches (commonly called a rick)."

The correct term is a cord of wood.
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Post by: deniski on May 07, 2004, 11:44 PM
We buy a cord of wood each year at a church fund raiser.   Then we take some of it along when we camp, it's cheaper that way.  Oftentimes, we find wood that somebody else abandoned when they left the campsites near ours - so we'll use that also (hey!  we make SURE they are really gone before we do that!!).
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Post by: Old Goat on May 08, 2004, 06:37 PM
My Son owns a sawmill,so I get all the firewood I want for free. He always has plenty of junk wood and trimmings that is only good for firewood. It is mostly oak, hickory,ash and pine. He sometimes has red cedar which burns fast and gives off a pleasant odor. I tow with a full size pickup so carrying plenty of firewood is never a problem...On long trips I carry a small electric chain saw along to cut up pieces of wood we find along country roads... It is light and quiet running and doesn't upset fellow campers with a lot of noise.....


Old Goat

Popup and pickup
Camping since 1940
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Post by: wiininkwe on May 08, 2004, 08:06 PM
We're lucky enough to have our own almost never ending supply of wood, ( a mixture of pine, oak, maple, poplar and wild cherry)  but MI also has a policy that allows people to get a permit to gather "dead and downed" wood from state lands.  I'm thinking that other states may have the same kind of thing.  A permit is good for an entire year, I think, and anything laying dead on the ground is fair game.  You could gather what you need for a while maybe once or twice a year, or maybe once a month if you have a place to store it.
T
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Post by: B-flat on May 08, 2004, 10:23 PM
When you're in the country, there is usally plenty of free wood to take along to the campground.  Leftover wood gets offered to the campers staying on, so it isn't hauled home.
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Post by: campingboaters on May 10, 2004, 07:27 AM
Just got back from our first outing this season and you are not kidding the firewood is getting expensive -- and we thought only Gas and milk were getting expensive!!  

We usually buy from a road-side vendor on the way into the campground.  This trip, we brought old wood we had in our garage so we didn't need any, but noticed that the wood we used to buy for $5 for a large stack was priced at $10!!!  Granted, it's probably enough wood for the weekend for us, but THAT is EXPENSIVE!
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Post by: brainpause on May 10, 2004, 07:32 AM
Quote from: campingboatersJust got back from our first outing this season and you are not kidding the firewood is getting expensive -- and we thought only Gas and milk were getting expensive!!  

It takes GAS to run the chainsaw, and MILK to run the operator, so it'll come back to bite!

Larry
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Post by: startx on May 11, 2004, 12:13 PM
We live in the city, and although we have a wood yard, we are also in an area where wood is considered "expensive" by our standards.  We have found though, that so many people in the city that trim their own trees etc, do not keep the wood, or have fireplaces.  So, as we drive around town, we note where someone has been downing trees, or trimming large limbs etc.  Brian takes the truck back over, and takes what we can use.  People just pile it on the curb here, and call the city who comes and picks it up and mulches it I believe.  We always ring the doorbell and ask, and people look at us like we are nuts for some reason.  I just explain that we camp, and would love the wood for firewood, and we seldom have anyone that says no don't take it.

We now have two very large piles of wood in front of our garage door waiting to be split and stacked.  We take wood along, even though we have a van, it is a passenger van, not a conversion anymore, so we just put down a piece of plastic, and put a stack of wood in the back.  We have room, since all we really put in the van is wood, bikes, and odds and ends, most everything else goes into the camper.  We can camp in the truck, but with all the seats full of people, and a large antique camping chow who would be completely forlorn if she didn't come along, the van has so much more room.  We even have plenty of cargo capacity with the back seat removed, since it still seats eight even without the back seat we have plenty of seating, as well as cargo room.