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Title: We were SUPPOSED to bring the dog home from the shelter this Friday...
Post by: copcarguy on Jun 03, 2004, 12:23 AM
Hey all - I thought I'd vent here to my PUT family...
 
Well it has been two years since our beloved 14yo Husky "Sheena" has passed on, and we finally felt "ready" to bring a new doggie into our lives...  So last week we searched the shelters and found a little life that seemed to fit well with us.  We give them our information (seems like they do a better background check than my job did when I applied - these people should do anti-terrorism!) and of course everything came back good, and we can have the dog.  "We'll call you on the 1st to tell you which shelter she'll be at and you can pick her up on Friday the 4th".  So we go out and buy all new doggie stuff - leashes, toys, food, and a cool big pillow thing with pine trees, moose, and outdoor scenes that (of course) matches the inside of the PU.  This was to be her PU camping bed.  Well we get NO phone call on the 1st, which sets off my "some s**t ain't right" radar.  To make a long story short, copcargirl calls today, and they gave the dog to someone else.  I get this phone call at work today with a VERY distraught copcargirl on the other end, and of course I have 4 criminals around me while I am doing their intake paperwork, so I have to keep my happy face on.  We are SO hurt by this, we have a big trip planned June 10 - 13 and were looking forward to going camping and seeing how the doggie liked her new PU bed...  I know we'll find another dog to love, but man does this stink.
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Post by: birol on Jun 03, 2004, 05:49 AM
Oh man that sucks !!!!!! I know how you felt ! We went throught the same thing ourselves, we were promised one Chi, and they gave it to someone else under our nose. I raised such a  stink they arranged us to get Milo from Buffalo. Favorism at its best when it comes to this kind of stuff I guess.

I hope you find another one you like soon.
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Post by: Michicampers on Jun 03, 2004, 06:17 AM
I'm so sorry. Hang in there. It took me months to find our Chihuahua through rescue - every time I found a dog online that I thought was right for our family, somebody else kept beating me to it, until we got lucky and found her. She was sure worth the wait. I sent so many e-mails and made so many calls the rescue people got to know me pretty well, and after a while, they were calling me before they even listed a dog online - I think it really helps if the rescue people get to know you and feel comfortable you before you even find a dog. I even had our home check done by another agency before I filled out an application for our Chihuahua - I think that really helped too, since it saved a lot of time and nobody else was able to nab her in the meantime. Good luck.
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Post by: jpreiser on Jun 03, 2004, 06:47 AM
Sorry to hear  about this try going to  the link below,  there are tons of animals out there who need homes....


http://www.petfinder.com/
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 03, 2004, 07:25 AM
Sorry to hear about them giving the dog to someone else.  I'm sure you'll find another one.
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Post by: jazman on Jun 03, 2004, 08:15 AM
Bummer Dude    :(

Keep looking... Trooper fell into our family totally by chance, so maybe a spin of the karma wheel will net something good for you and copcargirl as well.

Good Luck, and maybe Trooper will have a buddy to visit with at North Lake  :D

jazman
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Post by: vjm1639 on Jun 03, 2004, 09:02 AM
What a huge disappointment!  Lets hope Jazman is right with the Karma thing and that the dog that is right for you guys is on it's way to you somehow!
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jun 03, 2004, 04:22 PM
Rick I am so sorry that you didn't get the dog.  I hope you find another dog soon. :)
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jun 03, 2004, 05:18 PM
I wish you lived closer to me.  I could find you a perfect match at our rescue - and NOT give it to someone else out from under you!  :(

We get so many dogs from shelters here, unfortunately - and there are so many that can't be saved.  There is even a very rare fullblood Finnish Lapphund in a shelter in north Oklahoma that they've asked us to take, but it's just impossible to find room for them all.  While we do turn a lot of people down, homes like yours (a previous long-lived, obviously very loved pet, and wanting the dog to go camping with you and be part of the family) are an easy approval.

Good luck on try #2!
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 03, 2004, 10:13 PM
Miss-Teri - where do you live??  If it's not too far we may take you up on your offer.  "Far" to us is over 800 miles, anything under that is a day trip. :eyecrazy:   We would like a female, short-ish hair, medium size around 50 pounds, and most of all something that we can save and give a good home to.
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 04, 2004, 08:59 AM
I believe she's from Oklahoma.
 
Too bad we aren't close enough, a few weeks ago in Northern KY, they did a 2nd raid on a "hoarder" who had over 50 dogs in her house.  They were all taken to area shelters to be checked by vets, fed and gotten weight put back on them, then they'ed be up for adoption.  They were hoping that people would respond and give the dogs a good home
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jun 04, 2004, 09:25 AM
Yes, we are in Oklahoma.  Our website is //www.petsandpeople.com .  There are quite a few that don't even make it on the website, though, before they're adopted.  There are sooo many homeless pets here.  I watch Animal Precinct in New York and I see all these dogs that get adopted from their humane society that wouldn't have a chance out here - makes me really, really wish we could get to that point.  Seems to be the coastal regions that don't have as much of an overpopulation problem - probably partially due to not as many puppy mills and partially because people don't seem to consider their pets as disposable there as they do here.

The farthest-away adoption I've done is someone I "knew" from an animal message board who lives in Vancouver Island, Canada.  She flew out to Dallas and I met her at the Oklahoma/Texas border where we did the adoption of a precious black fullblood Pomeranian puppy (yes, from a shelter).  That dog just has the best life now - goes everywhere with her and is spoiled rotten!
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Post by: birol on Jun 04, 2004, 11:17 AM
We have so many members here, we could surely setup a link and transport the dog drom state to state !!! lets see PUT people in action !!!!!

I double dare all of you ! If we pull this off, tons of Canadian beer to the participants at the rally courtesy of Finally !!!
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 04, 2004, 11:27 AM
Quote from: birolWe have so many members here, we could surely setup a link and transport the dog drom state to state !!! lets see PUT people in action !!!!!
 
I double dare all of you ! If we pull this off, tons of Canadian beer to the participants at the rally courtesy of Finally !!!
I'd be willing to do my part, but how will you get me the beer (you didn't mention if it was FREE!).
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Post by: birol on Jun 04, 2004, 12:31 PM
I thought courtesy of Finally would implicate that it is free :):):) If you come to the rally you get it :) Free :) Otherwise I will personally bring it to you when we visit Ohio !



Quote from: angelsmom10I'd be willing to do my part, but how will you get me the beer (you didn't mention if it was FREE!).
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 04, 2004, 12:43 PM
Quote from: birolI thought courtesy of Finally would implicate that it is free :):):) If you come to the rally you get it :) Free :) Otherwise I will personally bring it to you when we visit Ohio !
Since I know we won't be at the rally, I guess I'll have to wait till we meet in Ohio.
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 04, 2004, 01:48 PM
You know what birol - that is an excellent idea.  I never would've thought of that.  I would just be worried that it might be traumatizing to the poor little doggie meeting so many different people and being in so many different vehicles.  I am up for it if it works out.  THIS is why I love PUT.
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 04, 2004, 02:19 PM
Quote from: copcarguyYou know what birol - that is an excellent idea. I never would've thought of that. I would just be worried that it might be traumatizing to the poor little doggie meeting so many different people and being in so many different vehicles. I am up for it if it works out. THIS is why I love PUT.
I can cover eastern IN and western OH area!
 
I promise to give lots of love!
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Post by: birol on Jun 04, 2004, 03:15 PM
Rescue organizations do this frequently ! Miss-Teri, do you want to spearhead this and see if there is enough people to pull this one off ?

Looks like we need to cover, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Copcarguy will be willing to drive to the Wv/Pa border to pick his new friend up. Can Miss-Teri drive it or arrange it to be driven to Arkansas border ?

Areas to cover :

Arkansas
Tennessee
Kentucky
West Virginia

Only for states, and you do not have to drive him thought the whole state, please just state from where to where and it will all fall into place in no time.
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jun 04, 2004, 04:15 PM
I can probably even arrange to fill in all the holes with rescue transporters.  But he has to decide on a dog first!  We have to come up with the "perfect" one, because it's not an easy return if it doesn't work out.  I'm checking into some potentials right now and I'll try to come up with a list and pictures to see if Copcarguy and 'girl like any of them.  

We head to Yellowstone in a week so I'm kind of pre-vacation frazzled right now trying to remember everything we need and need to do, but I'll help in any way I can.

Tell me if you see anything on the website that you might be interested in and I'll find out more about them.  Some possibilities I saw include:

Buena
Brooke
Cheetah
Cowly
Diva
Eden
Giselle
Libby
Melissa
Peggy
Pandy
Pimento
Roo
Sabrina
Simone
Shadow
Stormie
Shawnee
Tyne

I'm guessing you want an indoor dog when you're not travelling, right?  And what kind of fence do you have?  We have an occasional fence jumper that needs a 6 ft fence.
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 04, 2004, 04:26 PM
WOW - you guys are so cool!  Miss-Teri, we plan to look at your website tonight and we'll see if we can pick one.  We'll keep in touch!  Thanks to all!
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jun 04, 2004, 05:50 PM
Another place to check is //www.petfinder.com .  Enter in your state, choose "dog", and enter sex of the dog you're looking for.  There are about 500 dogs.  Wish you could exclude the long-haireds from the list - that would cut it down quite a bit.  It still might be difficult to impossible to get one there as they get adopted so fast in NY.

Here's one I thought was cute, but it didn't say if she is quiet or rowdy - noisy would be bad for a campin' dog!  
http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=2880138&adTarget=468doggeneral&SessionID=40c0fbc338894312-app1&display=&preview=0&row=100&tmpl=&stat=

And this one - Greyhounds are great indoor dogs, very quiet and calm inside.  I think one of our PUT members has a couple of camping Greyhounds.

http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=2853575&adTarget=468doggeneral&SessionID=40c0fbc338894312-app1&display=&preview=0&row=150&tmpl=&stat=


And if you like any of ours, give me a list and I'll see what I can find out about each!
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Post by: MommaMia on Jun 04, 2004, 08:28 PM
Quote from: Miss-TeriI wish you lived closer to me.  I could find you a perfect match at our rescue - and NOT give it to someone else out from under you!  :(

We get so many dogs from shelters here, unfortunately - and there are so many that can't be saved.  There is even a very rare fullblood Finnish Lapphund in a shelter in north Oklahoma that they've asked us to take, but it's just impossible to find room for them all.  While we do turn a lot of people down, homes like yours (a previous long-lived, obviously very loved pet, and wanting the dog to go camping with you and be part of the family) are an easy approval.

Good luck on try #2!


WOW!  Very Pretty dogs!  I had never seen a Lapphund before.  I fancy the more unusual and rare breeds!
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 05, 2004, 12:04 AM
Hey all!
 
www.petfinder.com (//%22http://www.petfinder.com/%22) is where we found the 1st dog... We're kinda searched out/disappointed with that site.  We're still hurt by what that shelter did.
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jun 05, 2004, 09:44 AM
Quote from: copcarguyHey all!
 
www.petfinder.com is where we found the 1st dog... We're kinda searched out/disappointed with that site.  We're still hurt by what that shelter did.

Petfinder.com shows different rescues/shelters from all over the country.  We have our dogs (and cats) on there too.  So don't be completely disheartened over what one shelter did.  

Have you found anything interesting yet?  Oh, and back to the other questions - what size fence do you have (if you have one), and will it be an indoor dog?
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 05, 2004, 03:06 PM
Quote from: Miss-Teri......And this one - Greyhounds are great indoor dogs, very quiet and calm inside. I think one of our PUT members has a couple of camping Greyhounds.
 
http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=2853575&adTarget=468doggeneral&SessionID=40c0fbc338894312-app1&display=&preview=0&row=150&tmpl=&stat=
 
 
And if you like any of ours, give me a list and I'll see what I can find out about each!
Emergency Vets last night covered a greyhound rescue who adopts out racing greyhounds around the country.  It was very interesting and the dogs they showed seemed very loving and friendly.   They were saying that they make the best pets.
 
But of course I expected them to favor them and not show the bad ones.
 
Depending on the are of KY needed, I may be able to help.  I live in SW Ohio and can cover..
 
SW Ohio, SE Indiana, mid-Northern KY
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 06, 2004, 12:27 AM
Miss-Teri - we looked at your website and found 8 that we liked...  Our super favorite was Sabrina.  Copcargirl fell in love with her.  Is she still there??  

Also, we don't have any fence whatsoever, and yes, the doggie will be indoors when we're not camping, boating, hiking, and doing all the other stuff we're into!
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jun 06, 2004, 02:30 PM
I will do some checking on Sabrina for ya!
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Post by: brainpause on Jun 06, 2004, 03:59 PM
Sabrina is a pretty dog!

Larry
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 07, 2004, 12:28 PM
The suspense is killing us...  :eyecrazy: :eyecrazy:

Can we have Sabrina????
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Post by: birol on Jun 07, 2004, 01:41 PM
I hope you can get sabrina, did you also read about ncsunshine's doggie who has to go ? Is that a possible alternative if Sabrina doesn't work ?  I guess you and miss-teri should exchange phone numbers, I am getting excited now ! We were just like you before getting Milo.
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jun 07, 2004, 03:29 PM
Okay, sorry about the delay.  The person I had to call was on vacation yesterday so I had to wait until today.

Here's what I found out:

Sabrina is a "really REALLY nice dog".  She is a Lab mix, and as such you have to be ready for the "puppy stage" for another 2 years as far as she will be a bit hyper (she's not as bad as many Labs) and she digs a bit.  She has really nice house manners, and she loves kids and she loves to ride in the car.  As a matter of fact, the profile on her where you check "likes kids, likes to ride in the car" has the typed word "likes" marked out and LOVES inserted for both.  

She was returned from her foster home because she jumps 4 foot chain link fences.

She is about a year old now, and probably 40 - 45 pounds.  Her adoption fee is $65, which includes her spay, health certificate for crossing state borders, shots, heartworm test, fecal, and a tag that helps us to get ahold of you if she gets loose.

My biggest worry is the fence, since I'm not sure what size fence you have.  A chain link can be easily made to hold her inside with a hot wire.  I think if she gets to spend enough time with you, she'll probably not get bored and even want to escape, but with her being so far away, that's definately a concern.

Whatcha think?
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 07, 2004, 11:12 PM
Miss-Teri:
 
WE WILL TAKE HER!!!
 
PLEASE don't let her get taken by anyone else... I don't think our hearts could handle it at this point. Please contact us via email for our phone numbers and info, how to send you the adoption fee, but most of all, how we are going to get this little life 1,503.6 miles from where you are to where we are. (I checked on mapquest) Like I said earlier, I am willing to drive quite a few miles, but I simply don't have the days off to drive the entire trip. Whatever I drive will have to be done within a Friday to a Sunday. I would like to take up the PUT'ers that volunteered to drive on their offers and thank you all in advance.
 
Also, we have no fence whatsoever at this point in time so there is nothing for her to jump over. LOL! To be 100% honest, if there is a danger she might run away, we'll keep her on a leash when she's outside. We 99.9999% of the time would not leave the dog outside alone to begin with, as we live in a rural area "up in the mountains".  If we do need to install a fence in order to adopt her that would be no biggie.
 
Well at this point, I hope I can fall asleep tonight. I am SO trying to not get excited after getting burned last time, but I just can't help it. I will try to email you as well. Thanks for all your help, and look forward to talking to you VERY soon. :D
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 07, 2004, 11:26 PM
Miss-Teri:
 
I tried to send you an email through PUT, but is says "you are not accepting emails through the board at this time"... I am uneasy about posting my phone number and other info on here, so please send me an email with your number and I'll call... You can send me an email by clicking the little "email" button under this post. I look forward to talking to you VERY soon!! :D
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 08, 2004, 01:51 AM
Well I can't sleep...  so I thought I'd give you some links to check out where Sabrina would go camping with us.  The Boston Terrier "Boomer" in the pictures is my sister's dog that I "borrowed" last time we went camping.  I am getting my hopes up at this point!!  

http://community.webshots.com/photo/44746058/148304602uuGHmT (//%22http://community.webshots.com/photo/44746058/148304602uuGHmT%22)
 
http://community.webshots.com/photo/44746058/148304064bfmHSB (//%22http://community.webshots.com/photo/44746058/148304064bfmHSB%22)
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Post by: birol on Jun 08, 2004, 05:50 AM
I hope this works out ! With Nancy willing to help you you willing to drive quite a few miles, hopefully the distance will not be a problem.

We are progressing with Milo at an incredible rate, hopefully you will not have any issues with Sabrina.
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Post by: brainpause on Jun 08, 2004, 06:54 AM
Quote from: birolWe are progressing with Milo at an incredible rate, hopefully you will not have any issues with Sabrina.

I thought Milo went back.  :confused:
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Post by: birol on Jun 08, 2004, 07:18 AM
Nope, we were told to give him another chance .....And looks like it is going to work out. He is still sometimes shows his teeth  when being trained but, he learned to sit and stay and heels almost perfectly. So he is staying and unless he completely snaps he won't be going back.
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 08, 2004, 07:47 AM
Just let me know if you can get the travel arrangements to come close to us.
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Post by: MommaMia on Jun 08, 2004, 08:33 AM
http://www.allpets.com/prodetail.asp?T1=320403

I don't know anything about these anit-jump harnesses.  Have you had any experience withthem Miss Teri?

Maybe it's worth a try to break Sabrina of the jumping habit.
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Post by: DiW on Jun 08, 2004, 08:54 AM
Good luck Rick, hope it works out. Kelsey will be thrilled to have a new buddy along  :D  She keeps asking for a dog. Now we can tell her we'll just camp with you more often.
Di
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 08, 2004, 09:27 AM
Quote from: MommaMiahttp://www.allpets.com/prodetail.asp?T1=320403
 
I don't know anything about these anit-jump harnesses. Have you had any experience withthem Miss Teri?
 
Maybe it's worth a try to break Sabrina of the jumping habit.
We had one for our large dog as he would just look at the fence and he was over it.  You have to be sure you have it on correctly and to the right tension or it doesn't work real good.  It was just a big hassle for us to keep putting it on and taking it off when he came in.  If he were an outside dog, it would have been different.
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Post by: vjm1639 on Jun 08, 2004, 10:33 AM
Good friend of mine had a dog who loved to jump his fence too. Adorable dog, but after a couple of trips to the pound to pick up his little escapee he tried our method of keeping our poochie contained in the yard. We have a 25 foot tie out cable (he bought 40 because his yard is longer)...the plastic coated steel wire ones. Get two of the hammer in tie out stakes that you can hammer into the ground low enough to mow over and connect the cable between the two on the ground. Then attach another cable as long as you can get away with for your yard size (buy the ones for BIG dogs) to the cable on the ground so that it will move freely along the length of the cable and another to the pooch. .. Make sure it isn't close enough to a fence that he'd jump to allow him over it.... This gives the dog the freedom of running the yard without the fear of him getting out!
 
Hope that makes sense! :>
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jun 08, 2004, 04:23 PM
Lol, I'm glad you're so excited!  I have put a hold on her so she's yours!

My biggest problem with transport atm is my family heads out on vacation early Saturday morning.  (Unfortunately we're going west, rather than east).  I can spend maybe a day trying to help work out transport, but I have so much to do to get ready to go that I'm not sure how much time I can volunteer.  

Another option is flying.  That would put you out another $250 (approx) though.  I wouldn't mind tossing in a bit (maybe $10 - $20) to help out, but that still leaves a lot.  The flight would be safe and air conditioned if it was on Continental.

If you are in a rural (not a lot of car traffic) area and can watch her while she's out, a fence isn't a requirement.  Lab mixes are actually really good in that type of home as long as we don't have to worry about their getting hit by a car.  

You guys seem like true animal lovers, and I'm thrilled that she gets to go live with you!  I know our dogs love camping so that makes it even better.  I would suggest crating her while you're gone until you are positive you can trust her, though!

If it doesn't work out, we HAVE to have her back (unless you find a truly good home out there) as we can not let her go to a shelter.  We are like that with all of our animals, but Sabrina is one of those special favorites of ours!

I'll e-mail you in just a bit (just got home from P&P) so we can work out some details, but I wanted to let you know I saw this!
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jun 08, 2004, 04:27 PM
Quote from: MommaMiahttp://www.allpets.com/prodetail.asp?T1=320403

I don't know anything about these anit-jump harnesses.  Have you had any experience withthem Miss Teri?

Maybe it's worth a try to break Sabrina of the jumping habit.

Oops, just saw this.  It won't really matter to copcarguy since he doesn't have a fence, but my experience with the anti-jump harness is that most dogs that have any level of energy will also chew off the harness.  It's not like a collar where they can't get to it as it hangs over the back legs.  It does work great for if your dog tends to jump up on visitors, etc, while you are there to supervise so it doesn't get chewed up.
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Post by: MommaMia on Jun 08, 2004, 06:29 PM
Quote from: Miss-TeriLol, I'm glad you're so excited!  I have put a hold on her so she's yours!


Yipee!!!
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Post by: birol on Jun 08, 2004, 06:30 PM
I hope transport works ...... If I were in USA, I would just charge copcarguy my actual expenses and transport Sabrina all the way ......


Come on guys/gals, lets get this going ....
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jun 08, 2004, 08:41 PM
Wow I haven't looked at this thread for a while.  If there is anything I can do to help just ask. :)
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 08, 2004, 11:05 PM
Hey all!!
 
I would like to thank everyone for their help. I think flying her up here would be the best (and easiest) method of transport, as well as the least stress on Sabrina... Not to mention, we'll have our new family member the same day!! I am hoping she can be up here for some part of our big 4 day trip planned to the Newburgh KOA June 10-13.
 
WE ARE SO PSYCHED!!
 
Miss-Teri: I had hoped for you to email me your phone number so we can get all the technicalities and paperwork done... As soon as I am done typing this, I'll send you out an email with all our info. I am hoping we can fly her into Stewart International Airport in Newburgh, NY or as a second choice Albany International Airport in Albany, NY. If it has to be a NYC airport we'll drive the 100 miles down to there, but I really would not want to. I know you're going away soon also and I am hoping you can get Sabrina on a plane for us before you go. I'm babbling here, so I better just send you an email now.... :D
 
DiW: I was under the impression that you liked us and that we camped a lot together because you thought we were cool. Now I see we need to bribe you guys with a dog... lol Actually, we have "borrowed" my sisters dog the past 2 or 3 camping trips. You missed out. lol
 
MammaMia: we agree - Yippee!!!
 
birol:  You're the man for getting the ball rolling...
 
angelsmom10: Thanks for offering to drive her...
 
Thanks again to everyone (I hope I didn't miss anyone - it's kinda late as I'm typing this) and maybe this story could make it into the next issue of PUT. Tracy - aren't you a writer for PUT?? >>HINT<< ;)
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Post by: labontefan on Jun 08, 2004, 11:06 PM
I live in the southwestern corner of VA between Tennessee and WVa so I might be able to help with some of the transportation if you decide on a relay!

I'm starting to get new dog fever myself! I'm hoping Bitsy Bugle is around for a lot more years, but she's 12 1/2 now and starting to show her age. I keep thinking a new dog might help keep her more active (she really seems to enjoy it when I take her camping & to the races with me 'cause she has more to see and do), but she's been an "only" dog for a long time. Candie, my cockapoo died in '96, and Bitsy's been the only dog in the house since then. Not sure how she'd like a new "sister".

I've been visiting Petfinder.com almost daily and I've seen several that I really like.  

Good luck, copcarguy! Let me know if I can help!
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 09, 2004, 12:31 AM
I have been looking at Sabrina's picture for the 2 millionth time and it just hit me - who is that little girl holding her??  LOL

http://www.petsandpeople.com/browse/showpet.php?PID=7556 (//%22http://www.petsandpeople.com/browse/showpet.php?PID=7556%22)
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Post by: birol on Jun 09, 2004, 06:44 AM
You have to produce your own children, they do not give the children away  :yikes:  :p  :p  :p
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 09, 2004, 07:55 AM
Check out the cost for both airports and maybe with short notice, you can get a decent rate.
 
I hope you can get her in time for your trip.
 
Maybe you can pick her up on your way out.
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Post by: birol on Jun 09, 2004, 09:58 AM
Knowing how rescue agencies work (more or less now I do), I think their trip is too early to get Sabrina. Probably after the trip though ...... And it might be tough on both Sabrina and copcarguy to take him out to a camping trip right after they get her. She needs time to adjust.
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Post by: startx on Jun 09, 2004, 01:19 PM
Miss-Teri, we are in Dallas/Ft Worth, and have fallen in love with Cheetah!!!!

We are looking for a companion animal for our chow, she misses doggie companionship since her doggie pal moved to Nana's house.  I think Cheetah would be a good friend, as well as someone with more energy to play with the kids.  If she would make a good camping dog, who would love lots of attention from children aged 1-10, and doesn't mind sharing her house with three cats and another dog, we would like to adopt her.  She should also enjoy spending time in the house, as well as some time in our six foot privacy fenced back yard.  I know small children are often a concern, but these children are raised with pets, and are taught proper respect for the animals and how to treat them just like they learn to treat all the other people in the family.

Can you let us know if Cheetah is still there, and if she is at the Yukon shelter?  Is it possible we could adopt her this weekend?  I would be happy to answer any questions etc beforehand.  We are coming to OKC this weekend for a family reunion, so the timing is good if an adoption can be done in a day.
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jun 09, 2004, 01:53 PM
Well, copcarguy/girl have a bit of an edge because I trust them.  That might not be smart for someone I only know through the internet, but when he posted that first post about how much they loved their Husky, and how excited they were to be getting another camping buddy before the dog was given to someone else, they had no idea they would be getting a dog through us - so there was no reason to lie.  

I also looked at all those pictures, and they REALLY seem to love animals.  Not just them specifically, but those around them as well.  So I feel pretty good about it.

I hope copcargirl isn't too angry with me because I did give her a portion of the potential adopter's spiel, as in, "Are you ready to work through any issues if any arise since it's not going to be easy to bring her back?"  and "She isn't going to be chained up outside all the time, is she?", etc, etc.  I just hafta look after the best interest of the animal, especially when we can't personally check on it.  It sounded to me like she was a little offended that I would EVER think she might do those things - which is a good reaction!  ;)

Startx, I talked to our president and she thinks Cheetah would work great with your lifestyle.  Is the Chow a female?  And is she okay with other female dogs?  Cheetah is in with females and males now and there is no problem, but some of the beloved Chows in my past were very dog aggressive.  

We have a dog park on our premises which is open to the public - not sure if the Chow is coming with you, but you can let the dogs get to know each other out at the dogpark if it will be with you.  Also, you can get to know Cheetah at the park (sort of get to know her - sometimes the dogs are so happy to be out they don't give a whole lot of one on one attention to the potential adopters until they get home).  

If you come on Saturday, ask for Gail, and if you come on Sunday, ask for Cindy.  I'll also e-mail you with my cell number.  I won't be in town but I will have my cell on me in case you get need directions or get lost.  

If you can get a vet reference, it will also facilitate the adoption.  And, with your being so close, if it doesn't work out it shouldn't be too difficult to return her.  I think Cheetah will be so happy to get a home that she will put on her best doggie manners for you though, lol!  As I said in the post to copcarguy, if you get her, be sure to always crate her when you can't watch her until you are POSITIVE you can trust her.  It wouldn't be good to come back to no canvas!

edit:  Oops, I don't see your e-mail.  I think mine is fixed where you can e-mail me, and I'll send you that phone number.
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Post by: startx on Jun 09, 2004, 04:06 PM
I sent an email to you.  Yes, Babe is a female, but she is not dog aggressive at all, having always been a member of a multi dog household until recently.  She even has been to stay with relatives who have 10 or so dogs and never has aggression with any of them.

I'll keep the crating in mind, and we'll talk to Gail on Saturday most likely.  We are so excited!  The kids are really hyped about getting another dog, they love Babe, but she can't run and play like she used to and they are excited about having a younger dog that can.
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 10, 2004, 01:21 AM
WOW guys!  I never would've thought that my original post venting about that other shelter would result in the adoption of two dogs from Oklahoma over 1500 miles away...  How cool is that??

Just to keep everyone up to date, Sabrina is officially ours ("YAY") and has reservations on a flight from Oklahoma City to NYC this Saturday June 12th due in at 3:30pm.  I would like to tell Miss-Teri once again THANK YOU!!  Miss-Teri is making an early morning detour from departing on her Yellowstone trip to make sure Sabrina is safely on the plane enroute to her new family.  We are hoping Sabrina will like us...  LOL!  
 
jazman:  it looks like Trooper will have a new camping buddy at North Lake when we're up there next weekend!!
 
Seriously - I think we should include this story in the next issue of PUT.  Without PUT this never would've happened!
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Post by: birol on Jun 10, 2004, 05:54 AM
Yehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Congratulations !!! Sabrina is one lucky dog ! I wish you a lot of happy hand lickings by her for a lot of years to come :)
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Post by: campingboaters on Jun 10, 2004, 07:19 AM
WONDERFUL NEWS!  Congratulations all!!

 
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Post by: startx on Jun 10, 2004, 09:26 AM
Copcarguy, Sabrina seems like a great dog, as a matter of fact, while I was reading this thread we were thinking of her, but then you took her.  

After looking at Cheetah though, she's just great for our family.  I don't know how long they have had her, but I can't believe she is still there, I mean with that gorgeous smile, I can't understand why someone hasn't snapped her up.

I know you are probably more excited than we are, but I'm just beside myself with anticipation, I can't wait until Saturday!
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Post by: birol on Jun 10, 2004, 09:29 AM
Startx, congrats to you too ! You guys are brave ! How do you manage a big dog :) Milo is puny and is all we can manage, of course he likes showing his white sparking teeth at us now and then hehehehe. I had to own a set of thickly insulated winter glows in June :) Do you have any idea how tough it is to find them ? They saved my left hand on last Mondays training course !
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Post by: Michicampers on Jun 10, 2004, 11:36 AM
Quote from: copcarguyWOW guys!  I never would've thought that my original post venting about that other shelter would result in the adoption of two dogs from Oklahoma over 1500 miles away...  How cool is that??
SO cool!!! :#
Quote from: copcarguySeriously - I think we should include this story in the next issue of PUT.  Without PUT this never would've happened!
I think so too - and I have often thought it was so great that Dave puts a little PSA in the back of every issue about adopting homeless pets. Now where's that little doggie icon when you need it?
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Post by: startx on Jun 10, 2004, 11:41 AM
Birol, I would imagine part of Milo's snappiness is his breed and size, as well as past treatment you have no way of knowing about.  I have known lots of little dogs that were biters.  Larger dogs, at least the breeds we consider, tend more to the mellow side, and are more recommended for families, and Ms Babe we have raised from a puppy.  She is very loving, and very patient, even in her old age, and would not bite us except in very extreme circumstances(like physical pain etc).  She also knows her place from years in the family, Milo needs time to understand you and that you aren't going to hurt him, and that you are alpha, not him.

I think in general, larger dogs are easier to handle, but my experience with the smaller breeds isn't as expanded.  Plus, I have two toddlers, meduim to large dogs are our only logical option as they are more "sturdy".  :)
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jun 12, 2004, 05:44 AM
Copcarguy and gal have a safe trip  to NYC today.  Post pictures when you have time.

Startx you have a safe drive. :)
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jun 13, 2004, 07:19 AM
Well did you two get your dogs? :confused:
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 13, 2004, 03:29 PM
Hey all!
 
Well Sabrina is here laying at my feet on her camping pillow snoozing...  We drove down to NYC from the CG yesterday.  What a transition to go from up "in the mountains" where we live (the CG is 18 miles from home) to down in the bowels of society, and then back up to here.  Sabrina handled the flight really well.  She gave us snuggles and licks in the airport as soon as she got out of the crate :) .  She did really well walking in the airport on her leash.  When we entered the NYC streets, it was overload for her (people, sirens, noise) and she just laid down and wouldn't budge.  Stephie picked her up and carried her to the car.  Once we got to the car Sabrina got in and made the back seat her home.  We stopped at a rest area and Sabrina peed for over a minute.  LOL!!  She would NOT go on anything but grass and that was the first grass we could find.  We were surprised/shocked at how good of a dog she is!  We headed straight to the CG where she got a nice bath with the outside shower on the PU and some puppy shampoo Stephie had bought yesterday.  Stephie brought her home last night to get her used to "home".  Next week is our North Lake trip, which will be her first "real" camping trip.  I still can't get over what a beautiful animal she is.  :D :D
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Post by: birol on Jun 13, 2004, 03:50 PM
Beautiful stories  :p  I hope they will both stay healthy and happy for a long time to come and enjoy their new homes and bring happiness to their new homes.
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Post by: andym86 on Jun 13, 2004, 04:28 PM
Hey Rick and Steph
Congratulations!
I had no idea you were looking for a dog.Just happen to stumble on your story.And what a great story it is.
I still have an extra crate (metal) which I used for my labs.I ended up buying a bigger foldable crate for my yellow lab when he had his surgery and ended up buying a second one(foldable) for my black lab.We take the foldable crates with us camping if we go on longer trips,that way the dogs sleep in the Add-A-Room,which is better for our yellow lab,since he doesn't have to climb any steps into the camper or on to the bed.
If you have use for the crate you are welcome to it and I even bring it up to you.
Again,Congratulations and good luck.

Andy
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jun 13, 2004, 06:15 PM
I am glad she was ok with the traveling.  So when will you post pictures?  Have a good time next weekend. :)
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Post by: MommaMia on Jun 13, 2004, 07:09 PM
Hooray!  I'm so glad to see Sabrina is in her new home!  I hope you have a lot of good years with her!
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 13, 2004, 07:47 PM
andym86: I wish I read your post a little sooner! Stephie & I just went to four different pet places pricing crates. WE JUST BOUGHT ONE! Arrrrgh.... lol! We really appreciate you offering us one.
 
PS - I have been wondering how you made out with the Taurus. ??
I wanted to send you an email, but I lost it.
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Post by: jazman on Jun 13, 2004, 08:43 PM
Congrats on the new member of the family   :D

I just finished the brake controller install on the Voyager, but ran out of daylight, so I don't know if it works  :yikes:

I'm taking Thursday off to debug the install and pack up the camper, look forward to seeing the three!!! of you next week...


jazman
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jun 13, 2004, 09:04 PM
I expect a fire stick to be burned in my honor, so I know you miss me. :(   We will be camping at Assateague Island. :D
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 14, 2004, 12:29 AM
Well here's two pics I quick threw up online:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/44746058/152488496SCPHVS (//%22http://community.webshots.com/photo/44746058/152488496SCPHVS%22)
 
http://community.webshots.com/photo/44746058/152488992VxNTDt (//%22http://community.webshots.com/photo/44746058/152488992VxNTDt%22)
 
 
 
Isn't Sabrina a cutie!!  :D :D
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Post by: brainpause on Jun 14, 2004, 05:06 AM
How cute!!!
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Post by: birol on Jun 14, 2004, 06:45 AM
She seems to be fitting right in ! What a beautiful dog she is  ;)
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Post by: campingboaters on Jun 14, 2004, 07:20 AM
Wonderful news and CONGRATULATIONS!  I wish you MANY happy years together!
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Post by: vjm1639 on Jun 14, 2004, 07:23 AM
She's a beautiful dog and looks so happy now!  Sounds like she took to everything rather quickly and is one smart pooch.  I hope you enjoy years of camping fun with Sabrina!!
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 14, 2004, 08:15 AM
Glad she made the trip and everything is going great.
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Post by: startx on Jun 14, 2004, 09:25 AM
Copcarguy, glad Sabrina is fitting in so well.  I thought about you guys a lot as we were working with Bell over the weekend.  Bell wasn't fostered, which is good in ways like we could change her name, but not so great in ways like we are having a house training refresher period.  We still think Bell is great though, and I have to get new pictures, because her pic on the webpage did not do her beauty justice.

I have to explain her name change.  We didn't like Cheetah, not a dog name as far as we are concerned.  Especially not for one built relatively low to the ground and extremely sturdy.  The two year old was quickly making it Cheeto instead of Cheetah.  We talked as a family, and decided on Bell Desiree.  Brian's mom, who passed away last year, would try her darndest to get someone to name a daughter Bell Desiree every time one of us would be pregnant.  Of course neither the daughters nor daughter-in-laws would name their child that, so in thinking of a new name for the dog three of us thought about that name.  We started calling her that before we even picked her up, and so she has become Bell Desiree, although for the most part she is just Bell.  Brian's Dad loved it when we were at the reunion Saturday, as did everyone else who knew the situation.
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Post by: andym86 on Jun 14, 2004, 07:43 PM
Quote from: copcarguyandym86: I wish I read your post a little sooner! Stephie & I just went to four different pet places pricing crates. WE JUST BOUGHT ONE! Arrrrgh.... lol! We really appreciate you offering us one.
 
PS - I have been wondering how you made out with the Taurus. ??
I wanted to send you an email, but I lost it.


Hi Rick
The heads are coming back from the machine shop this week.
So,I guess I know what I'll be doing this weekend or next.
To bad about the crate.Oh,well.
Talk to you soon.
Andy
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Post by: jstaddwtr on Jun 14, 2004, 08:25 PM
Copcarguy and family!!!!!
We are very, very happy for you.  We stopped reading the thread at the beginning.  With things that have been going on lately we did not want more bad news....but each day you thread kept getting bigger and longer so curiosity got the best of us.....so glad we got caught up on everything.  Hope to meet her sometime!
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 22, 2004, 02:21 AM
Hey all!

Well Sabrina has her first "official" camping trip under her belt, ummmm - collar and she did great! Sabrina is a really, really cool dog. I was there alone with her most of Friday since copcargirl couldn't come up to the CG until she got out of work. She was even later because she had to backtrack home to get stuff I forgot. OOPS! Anyway, Sabrina and I walked around the lake and she went swimming in the lake once she figured out what a lake is. LOL! We bonded really well and she is just the best. What a good heart she has. I was really impressed with her when the Park Ranger surprised us by walking into our site with a bear warning because he just appeared and she gave him a "who are you?" bark. It wasn't her being mean, she barked with her tail wagging but it made me feel like she was protecting us. We really love her a LOT!  Here's two pics of her camping at North Lake:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/54331686/155195541NoEgJb (//%22http://community.webshots.com/photo/54331686/155195541NoEgJb%22)
 
http://community.webshots.com/photo/54331686/155195820uybvxK (//%22http://community.webshots.com/photo/54331686/155195820uybvxK%22)
 
Miss-Teri:  are you home yet??  I would love your input and I have tons more pics if you're interested!
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Post by: vjm1639 on Jun 22, 2004, 06:46 AM
Quote from: copcarguyWe really love her a LOT! Here's two pics of her camping at North Lake:
How adorable!!! I love the one of her wrappped in her blanket!! Sounds like Sabrina found the perfect family!
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 22, 2004, 06:55 AM
So glad everything is working out great.  People who go to breeders I feel get the short end of the stick... the dogs from rescues/shelters seem like they end up as better pets.
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Post by: startx on Jun 22, 2004, 07:52 AM
Copcarguy, Miss Teri isn't supposed to be back until either the 23rd or 24th.  We have a bit more time before we can check in with her.  Looks like Sabrina is really enjoying her new family.  Bell, who knows her name now, hasn't been on her first camping trip, that comes 4th of July weekend, but I think she'll enjoy it.  I'm a bit concerned about her barking, but hopefully it will work out well.  At first at home she didn't really bark, but now it's like she has decided she has this great home and family, and every little noise sets her off into protection mode.  I do mean every little noise, the nephew was having a bowl of ice cream in the dining room while we were in the living room, and if he clinked the spoon on the bowl too loudly she would go into bark mode.  She has really trained well on her name, and on not going after the cats so I'm sure we can work through the barking thing, especially once she is more accustomed to the normal noises at home with a family this big.

I am hoping to borrow a friends digital camera and get some pictures up soon.
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 23, 2004, 11:16 PM
startx:  can't wait to see some pics of your new baby!
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jun 25, 2004, 09:55 AM
I'm back!

Ya know, it's kind of funny.  My pets message board was saying I needed a nice vacation/break (Shelter rescuers see a lot of difficult things doing shelter rescue, choosing what to take etc. sometimes even amongst unconscious dogs and cats that have already been knocked out for euthanasia), but I couldn't get Cheetah, Sabrina, and Wolfie (my most recent rescue that went to our sister rescue in California) off of my mind!

First I called copcargirl from Murdo, SD, with horrible reception on my cell phone, to make sure Sabrina had arrived all right and that they were happy with her, then I called our rescue Sunday, and Cindy said Barbara had taken Cheetah and that Gail had really liked her.  Then she told me a gorgeous Aussie that I had rescued a few months ago finally got a wonderful home.  I was so happy all day long!  

Then as soon as I got home, I had DH fire up the PCs so I could get an update!  Sounds WONDERFUL!  I'm so glad they seem to be working out well, though I hope Bell (love the way she got her name, BTW!  :D), gets over her incessant barking.  If you need some help on that, you might try http://groups.msn.com/PuppyluvsPawPrints/welcometop3.msnw, click on "general" and ask the people there.  They have some great ideas.  You might even see a thread talking about Bell and Sabrina on there from me.  ;)  Also, I'm hoping as she settles in, Babe will win her over.  Poor Babe!  :(

I would LOVE to see more pictures and get more information about Sabrina!  The pictures you posted are great - I called everyone in here to see them, lol!  We only kept her in our home for two days, but after those two days I knew you would absolutely love her!  She's such a great dog!  And I know she is feeling very loved and content with you guys or that warning bark never would have happened.

We are pretty picky on our homes, so we obviously feel you guys are some special people (and I also think Birol is for all the work his family is doing for Milo - whether it works out or not, I think you guys are fantastic for trying!).  Flying a pet to a new home is something I've only done this once, as I worry about what would happen if it doesn't work out (we will do everything within our power to make sure our dogs do NOT end up back in a shelter), but I feel very confident about Sabrina's new home, and some of the deciding factors for me were very subtle but meant a lot, such as looking through copcarguy's pictures and seeing many happy animals interacting with the family and extended family members/friends, and these pictures were there before they ever contemplated adopting Sabrina.

Many of our dogs only stick around for a week or two, but as the "copcar" family, and Barbara know, some of those long-termers are unjustly walked past as they can be some of the very best dogs!

(Wow, this was long...  Sorry!)

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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 26, 2004, 01:55 AM
Hey Chey... errr Miss-Teri: :p
 
Thanks for all the nice stuff you said about us on the msn group... I read about how black dogs are hard to find homes for - I never knew that. It hurts my heart to know that really nice dogs like Sabrina are simply passed over just because they are a dark color. I tried to post the links of some other pics of Sabrina on that msn group, and tried to sign up, but I guess the moderator has to "approve" my membership first. Not sure if you saw it, but I have two more links a few posts back of Sabrina in the backyard the day after we got her. I see that you posted the "blanket picture". Man, I couldn't grab the camera fast enough when she was laying there like that!!
 
She is beginning to play a lot more... I think she is feeling "at home". We have lots of toys for her, but she kinda just ignores them. At the pet store there was this HUGE box of rawhide/chewy things and there was this one that looked like a rolled up taco tortilla - the only one in the big box. She looked at it, her ears perked up, and she then looked at us for approval. We told her to "take it" and she ever so gently picked it up. That is the only thing she has paid attention to "toy/chewy" wise. She chewed through it in a week, and it was gone as of last night. Sabrina thought she lost it, and was looking for it all over the house. Copcargirl took her back to the pet store last night praying there was another one in the big box. After some digging in the big box, CCG found another one. (WHEW!) Sabrina even knows that it's her "taco chewy" - she'll get it for you if you ask her to. :D I have been getting her to pay attention to a little ball thingy that has 2 little feet - it's called a "CUZ".
 
Here's the link: http://www.petco.com/product_info.asp?familyid=12355&sku=1894043168&tab=1&dept_id=299&c1=290&c2=299&c3=&ct1=Toys&ct2=Squeaking%2FTalking%2FInteractive&ct3=
 
It's kinda like the same material as a "KONG" dog toy. I make it walk with the little feet and make little sounds and Sabrina will come up to it and poke it with her nose, and then do the "dog play/front legs on the floor" stance. I can't get over how cool she is!
 
PS - I know I've written a book here, but I see you went to the Dinosaur National Monument. Isn't that place SO cool?!?! We stopped there for a day while driving back from California. Is that big green stegosaurus still in the parking lot?? I remember parking next to it and was amazed that living things that big once ruled the earth.
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 26, 2004, 11:26 AM
Miss-Teri:  I got this email this morning:

We're sorry, (http://sc.groups.msn.com/themes/R9c/pby/img/cmd/cool_global_nick.gif)(http://sc.groups.msn.com/img/R9c/c.gif)copcarguy
Your application for membership in PuppyluvsPawPrints was denied by the group's manager.
 
So I guess I won't be posting any Sabrina pics over there...  Maybe I'm not good enough or something??  I've never had that happen before.  Weird.
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jun 26, 2004, 05:53 PM
Heather just asked me to tell you to reapply.  She said you didn't fill out the "reason" part (just put that you're Sabrina's dad), and she didn't know who you were - that site has had a few trolls of it's own.  Here is her e-mail:

" Dang! He applied with no reason, so he was denied early this am!!
 Shoot.. Please ask him to reapply..with my sicerest apologies Teri// "


I love it that it sounds like she might learn to play!  We tried a few toys with her, but she just looked at us like we were soooo immature!  Hehe!

We got to the Dinosaur monument pretty close to closing time - about 5:15 and closing time was at 6:00, so we didn't make it to the main visitor center.  We rode in a trolley up to the dig where the dinosaurs had fallen into a sink hole, and got to look around there.  It was actually very pretty country.  I had never even heard of the place until we went there.  Another thing I would have liked to have seen that we missed out on was the prehistoric rock artwork.  We saw it on some of the postcards, etc, but not in person.  :(
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Post by: startx on Jun 28, 2004, 09:27 AM
Hi Miss-Teri, we were so busy this weekend I just didn't have a chance to log on.

Bell is calming down on her barking, she is growing accustomed to her active and noisy household.  She and Babe have started to play some, which is fun to watch, as Bell being the younger of the two really gets a workout, while Babe mainly just keeps her running.  Bell needs lots of time with her family, we all went to the driveway yesterday to wash the van and camper, and she was having a barking jumping fit at the front door.  We setup a stake and staked her out in the front yard close to us, and she had a nice time laying in the shade, and rolling in the grass, and being close to us.  The barking stopped, except when she thought we needed to know someone was walking down the street.  I'm thinking its good she learns quickly, cause that's going to be a lot of barking in a campground.

Bell has adjusted very well to the cats, considering just two weeks ago she had them all "treed" in different locations and was running between locations barking at them like a crazy dog.  :o)  She's learned she doesn't rank higher than the human family members, and she can't take her toys and bury them in the back yard.  We've learned she LOVES to play ball, and loves any type of soft fuzzy chew toy with a squeaker inside.  We understand she loves the toddlers, but doesn't like them walking on her on the sofa, which is something they need to not do anyway, so we're working on it.  Bell is learning she can go out to potty without a human companion, and we will actually let her back in when she is done.

Essentially, she is a great dog, with a great capacity to learn, and we are working through any issues we find.  She's understandably going to have some issues, after all she spent 11 months at the shelter, and we aren't completely certain of her history before that.  We're just taking it a day at a time, and working on the really important stuff, and as she becomes more accustomed to the family, she is settling in.  She used to pace a lot also, in the house, she didn't want to be out, but when she was in she paced the rooms and wouldn't settle.  She's stopped that, now unless she just really wants to play with us, for the most part she has her favorite sofa spot, or her favorite recliner she hangs out in.
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jun 29, 2004, 10:12 AM
Oh, I'm so glad Bell is doing better!  I was getting worried since I hadn't heard from you, lol - I was thinking in this case no news might mean bad news!  I can't wait to see pictures of them!  I took my favorite post-adoption picture of Sabrina (the blanket one of course!) up to P&P for our board.  Everyone loved it!
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Poor Miss-Teri, you don't have to worry about Bell at all!  Things aren't rosy great yet, but we are getting there, and she's still 10x better than working through puppy issues.  We have to remember what it is like having a younger dog, after all Babe has been old and settled for a long time now.  Bell has to get settled in after being sheltered for so long, but we love her, and she loves us, and there's no way she is going anywhere.

She is such a great dog!  Sure we've had some issues, but different families have different rules and she is adapting to our family.  We have so much fun with her!  She loves to play ball, and play tug of war, and play with her toys.  We've inadvertently trained her that every time we go shopping she gets new toys.  You should see her when anyone comes in with a shopping bag!  Course if she would stop destroying the toys we bring her she wouldn't need new ones every time we go out!  :)

I'm going to Petsmart today to check out their line of "virtually" indestructible toys.  She LOVES anything that is soft and fuzzy with a squeaker, but she destroys them in about a day, her current record she set last night, destroying her new canvas and rope frisbee in four hours.

I hope Sabrina learns to play too, Babe never really played with toys, but we're seeing a return to puppyhood for her with Bell in the house.  She joined in a game of tug of war yesterday and seemed to really enjoy it.
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Post by: vjm1639 on Jun 30, 2004, 09:32 AM
Quote from: startxI'm going to Petsmart today to check out their line of "virtually" indestructible toys. She LOVES anything that is soft and fuzzy with a squeaker, but she destroys them in about a day, her current record she set last night, destroying her new canvas and rope frisbee in four hours.
 
LOL...Our dog is the same way. He loves soft toys with squeakers...and long soft things he can swing around in a circle. I've started saving all the old squeakers (you can also by bags of them at craft stores) and tying them inside of old socks..stuffed with old socks...tied in knots here and there.   Much cheaper and takes a few more minutes to distroy any way.  he has a blast with these!
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Post by: trainrich on Jun 30, 2004, 05:53 PM
Hello there,

So sorry to hear about the confusion with the shelter.  We have 3 wonderful pets and take them camping everywhere.  And, of course, they have their own beds so I know what you mean.

Let us know when you have found a new adoptive friend for life.
Warmest regards,

Richard and Alina



Quote from: copcarguyHey all - I thought I'd vent here to my PUT family...
 
Well it has been two years since our beloved 14yo Husky "Sheena" has passed on, and we finally felt "ready" to bring a new doggie into our lives...  So last week we searched the shelters and found a little life that seemed to fit well with us.  We give them our information (seems like they do a better background check than my job did when I applied - these people should do anti-terrorism!) and of course everything came back good, and we can have the dog.  "We'll call you on the 1st to tell you which shelter she'll be at and you can pick her up on Friday the 4th".  So we go out and buy all new doggie stuff - leashes, toys, food, and a cool big pillow thing with pine trees, moose, and outdoor scenes that (of course) matches the inside of the PU.  This was to be her PU camping bed.  Well we get NO phone call on the 1st, which sets off my "some s**t ain't right" radar.  To make a long story short, copcargirl calls today, and they gave the dog to someone else.  I get this phone call at work today with a VERY distraught copcargirl on the other end, and of course I have 4 criminals around me while I am doing their intake paperwork, so I have to keep my happy face on.  We are SO hurt by this, we have a big trip planned June 10 - 13 and were looking forward to going camping and seeing how the doggie liked her new PU bed...  I know we'll find another dog to love, but man does this stink.
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Post by: MommaMia on Jun 30, 2004, 08:37 PM
Quote from: Richard StroderHello there,

Let us know when you have found a new adoptive friend for life.
Warmest regards,

Richard and Alina





hehe!  My guess is you stopped reading when you saw 10 pages!

Not only has he found one but Startx did too!
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Post by: copcarguy on Jul 07, 2004, 01:57 AM
Hey all!

startx:  We need an update on Bell!!  We think of you guys quite often...  Please let us know how she's doing.  
 
Well, if anyone's interested in Sabrina, we had a little scare here over the hoilday weekend...  She has been just the BEST dog ever and we love her so much.  The other night though she was acting a little weird, just not being herself.  She wouldn't sleep on her bed, instead she slept on the floor in front of the bedroom door.  She was also kinda licking herself and moving in slooooooooow motion.  In the morning she couldn't move her tail or back legs.  We rushed her to the animal hospital and they did all kinds of bloodwork and tests.  They didn't know what was the matter, but gave us some kind of medicine (I don't know what kind - I'll have to ask CCG) and she began to get better with the meds.  This afternoon the vet got the results back and poor little Sabrina has Lymes Disease.  The vet said that she must've gotten Lymes before we had her because to cause paralysis it had to be in her system for a while. :( We now have her on meds for that and hopefully we can treat it.  She's sleeping on her bed tonight and we got a goodnight kiss from her, so we kinda breathed a sigh of relief.  She can move almost everything except a little section of her tail.  It looks funny because she can wag the rest and then there is this part that's not in on the party.  :D   I hope we can get rid of the Lymes 100%.  Sabrina has become a big member of the family, and it would rip my heart out if something happened to her.  Oh man, now a tear has come to my eye.  I gotta stop typing...  I'll keep everyone posted as we know stuff.  Talk to you all soon.  Rick
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jul 07, 2004, 07:05 AM
I know that there is such a deep bond already by your posts about her, my thoughts and prayers are with you and Sabrina that everything will work out.
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jul 07, 2004, 07:47 PM
Glad you found out was wrong with her.  I hope the antibiotics clear it up.  My sisters, sister inlaw's dog had it too.  Good luck with her. :)
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jul 07, 2004, 10:27 PM
Quote from: tlhdocGlad you found out was wrong with her.  I hope the antibiotics clear it up.  My sisters, sister inlaw's dog had it too.  Good luck with her. :)

Tracy, Did her dog do okay?  I'm so worried about Sabrina.  We've never had a dog with Lyme Disease (that I know of).  I'm hoping at her young age that she couldn't have had it too terribly long and it will clear up soon.

Copcarguy, check http://groups.msn.com/PuppyluvsPawPrints/welcometop3.msnw .  I posted Sabrina's update, and I'm hoping someone else might have some experience with it.  

Give Sabrina a hug for me!

And I'm looking forward to hearing about Bell's first camping trip too!
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Post by: vjm1639 on Jul 08, 2004, 09:24 AM
Quote from: Miss-TeriI'm hoping someone else might have some experience with it.
 
We ran into an older couple a while back camping and they had their little Cairn Terrier with them.  The dog was 10 years old and was just getting over a long bout with Lyme's Disease. They pretty much found her totally paralyzed one morning and took her to the vet.  They said she still got tired a little quicker than she use to (but she was 10...) but that she was doing wonderfully.  
 
Here's an article I found on the internet that says 90% of dogs treated within a week of the obvious signs..which are the limping and paralysis..respond well to treatment.   Hopefully, this is good news!  We're all praying for Sabrina!!!
 http://www.thepetcenter.com/gen/lyme.html
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jul 08, 2004, 04:38 PM
Quote from: Miss-TeriTracy, Did her dog do okay?  I'm so worried about Sabrina.  We've never had a dog with Lyme Disease (that I know of).  I'm hoping at her young age that she couldn't have had it too terribly long and it will clear up soon.


Yes he is doing well, he is almost 9 years old. :)
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jul 16, 2004, 07:07 AM
Just checking in to see how Sabrina is doing...
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Post by: copcarguy on Jul 17, 2004, 02:07 PM
Hey Nancy - thanks for asking about our "fur-baby"  :p ...  As you know from my other post, CCG's Dad had a heart attack this past Monday.  We have been literally living at the hospital.  Stephie's sister and 2 nieces (4 and 6yo) have been walking Sabrina and taking her out to play when we're not home.  They noticed worms in her poo yesterday.  Now they discovered some kind of tapeworm or something in addition to Lymes.  She is on pills for that now too.  Yet another trip to the vet, and this should be cleared up in a week.  To be 100% honest, I really wasn't paying attention to this worm story.  I just made sure Sabrina was taken care of and went to the Vet.  My mind is melting after no sleep and taking care of stuff around here.  All I know is I give Sabrina lovin' when I get home and try to let her know she is "home" now for good and loved a LOT!  I have been referring to her as "G" when talking about all her vet stories, because she has cost us over $1000 as of this point...  LOL!!  But it's all worth it, because she's just the best dog around and we love her SO MUCH!  I just hope we can get her all straightened out health-wise.  She is a member of the family and we would do anything for her!  
 
PS - has anyone heard from startx and Bell??
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Post by: Miss-Teri on Jul 18, 2004, 09:43 AM
Did she pick up any fleas while camping?  Tapes are caused from ingesting fleas that contain the tapeworms.  Nasty things - ick!

Glad to hear she's doing well, and I missed the post about the heart attack!  Another add to my prayer list!  

Take care, and you guys be sure to get plenty of rest as well!

Edit:  Forgot to say I have some possible good news.  Cindy, our president, has talked to two different vets out here that said Lyme Disease is so rare and unheard of in Oklahoma that they don't even test for it until it's a last resort (found some websites that say it was even completely nonexistent here in people or animals during some recent years).  They also differed from your vet in what your vet said about that she had to have had it for 6 months to affect her that bad, saying that, like most diseases, it affects different dogs different ways, so she could have had a reaction from the live vaccine or gotten a tick bite very recently and had the reaction.  

I was extremely happy to find that they think it was a recent thing so she'll completely recover (in their opinion).  That's a difference in vet opinions in ours and the ones you checked with up there, but it still makes me feel a lot better about her feeling better fast!  

If you have any questions you want to ask them, let me know and I can either find out for you or have them write out some answers for you.  Just so you have a broad range of opinions.  

Yay, Sabrina, get better fast!  And I'll switch my prayers to the people members of the family now!
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Post by: startx on Jul 21, 2004, 08:19 AM
Whew - Guys, I'm BACK!  My subscription expired, and then I finally was able to renew and then it took the busy folks at PUT a while to reactivate, and then we had password issues, etc.  At any rate, now I am back.

Oh my gosh CCG!  How scary to have a great dog, and then she suddently starts having problems.  I'm glad to hear she seems to be recovering.  You know I wonder if she didn't get her dose of advantage before she shipped to you.  They tested Bell for heartworms again, and gave her a general checkup, shots etc, and a dose of advantage (or something like it) while I was filling out paperwork.  That should have covered her for any possible parasites for a month.  I hope she gets better though.

Ok, on to Bell!  She's doing great!  We love her so much, she plays so great with the whole family.  She still occassionally thinks she is higher in the pecking order than the children, but we're working on that.  She's VERY protective of her family, especially when the "intruder", otherwise read as guest in our home, is male.  We find that a bit odd since the breeds we think she comes from aren't really protective, but we think it might be because she was so long at the shelter, and we think from the shelter staff that a man was involved in her being returned to the shelter.

She's so funny she likes to sit on the back of the couch and look down at everything.  I realize we shouldn't let her do this, since to a dog it means they are more important, but she's just so funny doing it.  The shelter told me she and her companion, a poodle, were turned in at the same time.  She was only a year old then, and I think she learned this from the poodle, but doesn't realize now what a big dog she is.

She loves to play with her toys, and she really loves for someone to throw them so she can go get them and bring them back.  We've been on our first camping trip with her.  She did really well, although I do watch her closely with people walking into camp, as she does raise her hackles and bark very aggressively at the person.  Once I acknowledge them, she will settle somewhat, but if they leave and come back we have to start over.  I'm really considering an obedience class, as I think that would help.

The toddlers love her to death, more than she wants to be loved sometimes.  Kayleigh's favorite statement is "I love Bell.  Bell love me too.", then she gives her a big hug.  Kamryn tried to throw things for her, but her little arms are so short and her coordination still developing it doesn't work out, so she just gives her all her snacks instead.

In short, we're doing great, any problems we have we are working through.  Bell is learning, and so are we.
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Post by: copcarguy on Jun 12, 2005, 10:04 PM
Hello all!
 
Well today is the one year anniversary of Sabrina coming into our lives...  What a fun (and expensive) trip it has been.  Over $3500 in vet bills and she is now healthy and has grown SO much!  She is just the best little life!  I would just like to say to everyone that helped bring her into our lives THANK YOU!!  Without the people on this board and PUT it would never have happened...
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jun 13, 2005, 04:38 PM
She defiantly looks great.  I couldn't believe the changes in her from last year.:)

 
Happy Anniversary!