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General => The Campfire => Topic started by: Firefyter-Emt on Jun 17, 2004, 09:17 AM

Title: Todays visitor outside my office @ home
Post by: Firefyter-Emt on Jun 17, 2004, 09:17 AM
She was quite a deer! :p
(http://www.yankeetoys.org/lee/deer.jpg)
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Post by: birol on Jun 17, 2004, 10:42 AM
So sweet ! So beautiful !  We need to be your neighbour and move to the house next to you !  Love the area !
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 17, 2004, 10:57 AM
We live within spitting distance (1/2 mile) of downtown Cincinnati.  We have deer across the street from our house.  It is a treasure seeing it, however, we have so many deer hit in the area because of the developement boom is what they say.  It's just sad to hear of them being hit.
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Post by: aw738 on Jun 17, 2004, 04:11 PM
I know this is going to raise a stink but I'm going to say it just to vent. If you want to flame me go ahead I've got a thick skin. Ok if you ask me deer are no better than a rats.  :mad: They destroy property, eat any kind of garden you try to raise, and carry disease YES disease. If state governments were required to repair or replace vehicles that are damaged by them the populations would be controlled better. They are ok to look at but thats about it. As far as hunting them, why??? If I had the choice between a nice beef steak or a long legged rat, I would pick the beef. BEEF It's what's for dinner. :)
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Post by: birol on Jun 17, 2004, 04:15 PM
Hmm,

You are probably right .... if you point to me the sentence you think I should flame, I might give it a half hearted try though :eyecrazy:  :yikes:  :p

Quote from: aw738I know this is going to raise a stink but I'm going to say it just to vent. If you want to flame me go ahead I've got a thick skin. Ok if you ask me deer are no better than a rats.  :mad: They destroy property, eat any kind of garden you try to raise, and carry disease YES disease. If state governments were required to repair or replace vehicles that are damaged by them the populations would be controlled better. They are ok to look at but thats about it. As far as hunting them, why??? If I had the choice between a nice beef steak or a long legged rat, I would pick the beef. BEEF It's what's for dinner. :)
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Post by: aw738 on Jun 17, 2004, 04:20 PM
QuoteYou are probably right .... if you point to me the sentence you think I should flame, I might give it a half hearted try though    


QuoteOk if you ask me deer are no better than a rats.

Ok Birol, give me all you got. After a hard day of working on Finally you'll feel better. :)   ;)
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Post by: birol on Jun 17, 2004, 05:03 PM
I am not very fond of rats, but squirrels are also like rats :) And both squirrels and deer look beautiful to me :)

There you go, I hope that hurt a lot :)

Quote from: aw738Ok Birol, give me all you got. After a hard day of working on Finally you'll feel better. :)   ;)
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Post by: Acts 2:38 girl on Jun 18, 2004, 07:23 AM
Actually, that deer (OK, well maybe not that one!) is one of the reason why I'm not even going to attempt a vegtable garden!  With all the fencing that will have to go up - it's not worth it!  Although I am going to try to grow tomatoes in a pot in the front yard!

 I wish I was there to see it!
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Post by: campingboaters on Jun 18, 2004, 08:26 AM
As for a fence to keep deer out of the garden, why not just put up a fence right around the garden instead of around your entire yard? You could probably get one of the chicken-wire-type metal fences that attach to metal stakes that you just hammer into the ground.  That system is not to expensive, but should deter the deer.
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Post by: gr8grandpa on Jun 18, 2004, 09:18 AM
We have a lot of deer here too. There is a lot of car-deer accidents. It would take a tall fence to keep them out. They can jump a regular fence. The raccoons are what give me problems in my garden. I can not plant corn. They tear it up before it gets ripe. They also tear up my wife's bird feeders.
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Post by: startx on Jun 18, 2004, 10:54 AM
Do you guys ever worry about ticks with having deer coming through your yard?  Considering all those precious little ones, I'd be a bit worried about the ticks, course there are precautions you can take for the kids and the yard.  We have mosquito problems here, and it doesn't make me keep the kids inside, we just put on bug spray, and do all the stuff to get rid of standing water etc.

As for eating deer, we're from the south, we eat squirrels too, although I've never eaten a rat, at least not to my knowledge, and would not do so willingly.  I don't hate deer, they taste great with gravy.
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Post by: K-man on Jun 18, 2004, 01:27 PM
I think the picture is pretty cool.  And always remember, the deer were there before your house was!
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jun 18, 2004, 01:42 PM
Quote from: startxDo you guys ever worry about ticks with having deer coming through your yard? Considering all those precious little ones, I'd be a bit worried about the ticks, course there are precautions you can take for the kids and the yard. We have mosquito problems here, and it doesn't make me keep the kids inside, we just put on bug spray, and do all the stuff to get rid of standing water etc.
 
As for eating deer, we're from the south, we eat squirrels too, although I've never eaten a rat, at least not to my knowledge, and would not do so willingly. I don't hate deer, they taste great with gravy.
I'd be more concerned about ticks off of trees.... the first several times we camped, we picked at least 6 off of us... we've never had that problem before.
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Post by: birol on Jun 19, 2004, 02:05 PM
I hope we never get to meet a tick ! How am I gonna remove them ? I am telling you, one attaches to us, one of you will have to remove it !!!
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Post by: startx on Jun 19, 2004, 09:39 PM
Quote from: birolI hope we never get to meet a tick ! How am I gonna remove them ? I am telling you, one attaches to us, one of you will have to remove it !!!


You sure about that Birol?  They usually start their process of finding a nice attachment spot around the ankles, if they don't like the socks they head north.  They have been known to find a nice cozy home in the "nether" regions if you know what I mean.  You know we love you, but do you really want us to know you THAT well?
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Post by: Firefyter-Emt on Jun 21, 2004, 07:12 PM
8:15pm tonight.. My little friend was back. The 2 younger boys got to see her this time.. :)
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Post by: birol on Jun 21, 2004, 08:10 PM
Startx : you are making me give up camping , EEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Deer is so beautiful looking animal, maybe we will be lucky when we are there !
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jun 21, 2004, 08:16 PM
:)  :p  :D

I am loving it.
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Post by: NightOwl on Jul 13, 2004, 12:13 PM
OK, I have got an actual "outdoor wisdom" kind of question here and would love to know if anyone can give me some information. We have a lot of those long-legged purty little rats in our part of the world and they are a genuine menace on the highways when they decide to cross at the same time some poor vehicle is occupying the same space. Some people use those things you put on your bumper that create some kind of whistle sound audible to the deer.
 
Has anyone used them or have knowledge of someone who has?
 
And I am not even going to get into the grim details of vegetation destruction  done by deer, rabbits, and groundhogs when they want the tender greens found in the gardens and yards of NorthEast Georgia! ( Aarghh! :()) Needless to say, we do not regard them as "charming novelties" where I live.
 
TICKS--now that is another matter. There are two main kinds to watch for kinds: first, the usual ones which drop onto you from the trees or get on your dog. They are easy to spot and can carry some bad stuff like Rocky Mt Spotted Fever and paralysis.
 
But the ones which are now a newer source of worry are the little tiny black "deerticks" about the size of a pinpoint. Their most common carriers and hosts are deerfooted or kangaroo mice, deer, and rabbits. It is these little guys (very hard to spot on yourself or someone else) which cause Lyme Disease which can be hard to diagnose at first and can have longlasting effects on your health.
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Post by: MommaMia on Jul 13, 2004, 12:23 PM
Quote from: NightOwlSome people use those things you put on your bumper that create some kind of whistle sound audible to the deer.

Has anyone used them or  have knowledge of someone who has?
 

When I hit a deer 3 years ago ($2500 worth of damage and the sucker got up and ran off) I had these things on my car.  They were there when I bought the car used.  When the police showed up to write up the accident report I asked him what his experience was with them.  He said, "Seems to me that with the number of cars I have seen that have them that have hit deer, the gadgets make just enough noise to catch the deer's attention so they end up standing in the middle of the road with the car barreling straight towards them,  the deer wondering what that funny sound is!!!

Quote from: NightOwlBut the ones which are now a newer source of worry are the little tiny black "deerticks" about the size of a pinpoint.  Their most common carriers and  hosts are deerfooted  or kangaroo mice, deer, and rabbits.  It is these little guys (very hard to spot on yourself or someone else) which cause Lyme Disease which can be hard to diagnose at first and can have longlasting effects on your health.

Apparently the ticks need to be attched to the person for 12 hours for the disease to be transmitted.  The trouble is that these little deer ticks are so tiny that it can easily be more than 112 hours of them gorging themselves before they are pig enough to spot.

I understand from my doctor that anyone even suspected of having Lyme Disease should be automatically started on antibiotic therapy even before a clinincal diagnosis is made.  My aunt had it for years before she was diagnosed correctly and has suffered permanent liver damage because of the chronic infection.
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Post by: angelsmom10 on Jul 13, 2004, 01:56 PM
I've heard the same thing about those things for the deer.... not worht the money.
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Post by: NightOwl on Jul 13, 2004, 02:59 PM
thanks, guys--I wont waste my money on them.  Maybe I'll just spend it on some tick repellent! ;) :J
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Post by: MommaMia on Jul 13, 2004, 03:15 PM
Quote from: NightOwlthanks, guys--I wont waste my money on them.  Maybe I'll just spend it on some tick repellent! ;) :J


Or get some Guinea Hens.  Those things (we had 6) were amazing at getting rid of the ticks!   Never saw a single tick while we had them.  Then we lost a couple to coyotes, winter came  and we ate the rest.  Yup, you heard me right!  Ate them for New Years Eve dinner.  They were quite tasy too!
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Post by: NightOwl on Jul 13, 2004, 05:37 PM
Cindy, people in the deep south value Guinea Hens for their great appetites for pesky bugs and also, they make great Burgler Alarms. It still is possible to see them in rural Georgia strutting around rural front yards and when "company" arrives, whether invited or not, they set up such a racket that NO ONE could be unaware someone had arrived.
 
But you ATE your very own Guineas? I am shock-ed! :J Well, at least you havent eaten your kids' Guinea Pigs (have you?) I TRIED one time years ago--we had a dead Guinea Pig in the freezer waiting for the Michigan winter to end so that we could give her a proper Christian burial. I forgot she was there and along in April sometime, took out what I fondly believed was a roast to thaw for dinner. It wasnt until the "roast" had sat on the counter de-frosting for several hours that I realized to my horror that a glazed milky-blue eye was staring at me through the wrappings. Now I may be slow, but never yet saw a roast with an eye so came to the brilliant conclusion that it was Clothilde and not only would I have to bury her, but I'd have to change my menu. Dang! I bet Martha Stewart never had to deal with something like that!
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Post by: NightOwl on Jul 13, 2004, 07:03 PM
Ahem--another hi-jack has occured!  Drat--Cindy you are SUCH a bad influence on meeeee    :(:(:J
 
I must admit Lee, it is a beautiful picture and I know the kids must have loved seeing her. She is beautiful even if she and her family do regard our gardens as fodder.
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Post by: MommaMia on Jul 13, 2004, 07:17 PM
Quote from: NightOwlAhem--another hi-jack has occured!  Drat--Cindy you are SUCH a bad influence on meeeee    :(:(:J
 


Oooh Gee, sorry!  Funny how that can happen so quickly!
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Post by: NightOwl on Jul 13, 2004, 08:12 PM
yeah, Cindy, and I'm sooooooooo easy, too. :J