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General => General => Topic started by: tlhdoc on May 22, 2005, 06:26 AM

Title: Honda EU2000
Post by: tlhdoc on May 22, 2005, 06:26 AM
Will a Honda EU2000 run a Carrier Air V air conditioner? Has anyone done this?:confused:
 
The Air V brochure says
 
Approximate Full load amps/cooling 12.8
Running watts/cooling 1: 1450
Running watts/cooling 2: 1820
Running watts/heating 3: 1800
 
and what does this mean?
Locked rotor cooling amps: 64.5
 
The Honda site states
 
AC output: 2000W max (16.7 amps)
               1600W rated (13.3amps)
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Post by: SkipP on May 22, 2005, 07:49 PM
Quote from: tlhdocWill a Honda EU2000 run a Carrier Air V air conditioner? Has anyone done this?:confused:
 
The Air V brochure says
 
Approximate Full load amps/cooling 12.8
Running watts/cooling 1: 1450
Running watts/cooling 2: 1820
Running watts/heating 3: 1800
 
and what does this mean?
Locked rotor cooling amps: 64.5
 
The Honda site states
 
AC output: 2000W max (16.7 amps)
1600W rated (13.3amps)
From the looks of it, the generator will power the A/C and not much else. You never want to run a generator at it's max rating for an extended period of time. A short duration is fine. The 1600 watt rating is what the generator is designed to operate at for extended periods
 
"Locked rotor" can also be called "inrush current" and is a measure of the current when first applied. It's the initial surge of current and only lasts for a very short period of time. For motors, it's generally 300% to 600% of the max full load rating. If the generator can get over this "hump" it should handle the A/C.
 
To figure the amperage, divide the wattage by the voltage...that 1800 watt hair dryer pulls 15 amps! (1800watts / 120volts = 15amps).
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Post by: tlhdoc on May 23, 2005, 05:15 PM
Quote from: SkipPTo figure the amperage, divide the wattage by the voltage...that 1800 watt hair dryer pulls 15 amps! (1800watts / 120volts = 15amps).
What hair dryer?  LOL, thanks for the help.  I have been searching and have found that they will run the Carrier AC.:)
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Post by: mike4947 on May 23, 2005, 07:03 PM
Well it may and it may not. Depends on a lot of factors. The running current is well within the genset's capacity. The problem comes in with the starting current. It can vary widely from AC to AC. We've found by experimentation that some AC's will start off a 2kw genset and some won't. Obviously plugging into the trailer rather than directly to the AC unit will reduce your chances of the AC starting as the trailer will draw off some of the amperage available.
 
Unlike shore power breakers gensets do not have the ability to be overloaded momentarily. The 20 amp breaker in the trailer will take as much as 30 amps without tripping for a second or so the AC loads it while starting. A genset won't. Go over the rated capacity and it will trip out.
Other factors that will influence the starting are altitude and temperature.
The higher the altitude the less HP the genset motor puts out and the less amperage it will generate.
With temperature increases it's the AC that effects it. The higher the temp the more current the compressor needs to start.
And as the AC unit ages it will require more starting current. So what starts an AC today might not 2 years down the road.
Just make sure where you buy it has a good return policy just in case.
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Post by: CUL8R on May 24, 2005, 12:32 AM
According to the instruction manual that came with my EU200i, the Honda can/will run over its rated output for a short period of time.  Honda cautions not to do this often, or for more than a short period of time.
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Post by: mike4947 on May 24, 2005, 05:54 AM
That's over it's CONTINIOUS rating which is 1600 watts (13.3 amps) Once it goes over it's PEAK rating of 2000 watts (16.66 amps) it will trip out. Running it in the range between continious and peak for any length of time is what Honda recommends against.
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Post by: Dee4j on May 24, 2005, 12:37 PM
Quote from: SkipPA/C.
 
To figure the amperage, divide the wattage by the voltage...that 1800 watt hair dryer pulls 15 amps! (1800watts / 120volts = 15amps).


That's why my circuit tripped when I had my electric heater on too  :yikes:  who knew what tiny electonics can pull so many amps
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Post by: tlhdoc on May 24, 2005, 04:37 PM
Thanks for all of the information.:)