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General => The Campfire => Topic started by: Jeffrey on Jan 29, 2006, 03:00 PM

Title: Flashback
Post by: Jeffrey on Jan 29, 2006, 03:00 PM
http://web.archive.org/web/20020523065636/http://www.popuptimes.com/
It's the PUT website from 2002
Someone showed me this... pretty cool.
Becareful what you post, it could be online forever..............
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Post by: Tim5055 on Jan 29, 2006, 04:11 PM
It's also neat becauser they archived links - Here is the way my website looke in 2002 (http://web.archive.org/web/20011129134111/www.title-3.com/)
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Post by: Jeffrey on Jan 29, 2006, 07:28 PM
Quote from: Tim5055It's also neat becauser they archived links - Here is the way my website looke in 2002

Tim, if you search for your site directly they have it 63 times back into 2001.

I looked at a few different months and years, the message board messages came up sometimes. Wonder how much space it takes to store all that stuff. I checked a few different websites....
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Post by: AustinBoston on Jan 29, 2006, 08:32 PM
I wonder what the legalities of this are...this site has always had a copyright notice.  You can't just copy it and use it any way you'd like.

Yep, ther it is, right on the bottom..."
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Post by: AustinBoston on Jan 29, 2006, 08:49 PM
Didn't take long to find a post with this in it:

"This post may be Copyright
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Post by: Jeffrey on Jan 30, 2006, 07:08 AM
Here is their answer to that question.........


"Internet Archive uses the exclusion policy intended for use by both academic and non-academic digital repositories and archivists."
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Post by: GeneF on Jan 30, 2006, 07:42 AM
Had to laugh a little.  I noticed that those infamous little popups were there.

Darn, I couldn't log onto Fireside chat.  Lots of fun memories there.
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Post by: AustinBoston on Jan 30, 2006, 08:55 AM
Quote from: JeffreyHere is their answer to that question.........


"Internet Archive uses the exclusion policy intended for use by both academic and non-academic digital repositories and archivists."

They have ads in the displays.  That makes it a commercial use and therefore forbids the exclusion.

Austin
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Post by: Jeffrey on Jan 30, 2006, 09:19 AM
Quote from: AustinBostonThey have ads in the displays.  That makes it a commercial use and therefore forbids the exclusion.

Austin

I'm not going to defend them, just thought it was interesting and that's just what it says, there is also a link for more info.

IMPO.... They been doing it for 10 years, storing alot bigger sites than PUT. So it must be legally acceptable. I don't think it's much different than archiving old newspapers for the public to look up. Those also have ads.

It does say they will remove anything, if the owner doesn't want it stored. There is a message board there too if anyone wants to debate it's legality.
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Edit.... Just noticed this at the bottom of the main page........
Institutional Support; Alexa Internet, HP Computer, The Kahle/Austin Foundation, Prelinger Archives,  National Science Foundation, Library of Congress, LizardTech, Sloan Foundation, Hewlett Foundation, Individual contributors
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Post by: ForestCreature on Jan 30, 2006, 10:28 AM
Quote from: AustinBostonThey have ads in the displays.  That makes it a commercial use and therefore forbids the exclusion.
 
 Austin

 Looks to me that someone needs a camping fix! :)
 
 
 It was fun flipping thru the old pages, as incomplete as they are.
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Post by: chasd60 on Jan 30, 2006, 01:45 PM
Quote from: ForestCreatureLooks to me that someone needs a camping fix! :)
 
 
It was fun flipping thru the old pages, as incomplete as they are.
This one is kinda cool too!!
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Post by: ForestCreature on Jan 30, 2006, 02:11 PM
Quote from: chasd60This one is kinda cool too!!
LOL, it still looks the same today! Someday I'll complete the update :D
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Post by: mowalker on Feb 01, 2006, 05:53 PM
I agree with Gene, Fireside was fun many memories there as well as late nights.
 
Charlie, do you think you can find your poem in there somewhere?  That would be cool.
 
Even though it was a short time ago, life was so different.
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Post by: CAPEd CODger on Feb 02, 2006, 07:46 AM
Quote from: AustinBostonThey have ads in the displays.  That makes it a commercial use and therefore forbids the exclusion.

Austin

To steal a line from a (copy righted) Warren Zevon song; Send lawyers, guns and money... The (deleted) has hit the fan.

And one from the Police (band, that is) Too much information, runnin' 'round my brain. Too much information, drivin' me insane.

Have a great day.

Bob

Now, are they gonna come after me?
Can't get blood from a turnip.
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Post by: vjm1639 on Feb 02, 2006, 08:03 AM
Quote from: mowalkerEven though it was a short time ago, life was so different.

wow...no kidding...can't believe all the changes that have happened  in our life in that short a time when I think about it! goodness....
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Post by: Used 2B PopUPTimes on Feb 02, 2006, 07:20 PM
Ahhh, the good old days. :)