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Title: Help with cleaning beds
Post by: TonyM on May 06, 2006, 08:03 PM
Hey guys my pop-up is a 94 model so the bed covers are dirty I am sure...how would you recomend cleaning them...I took the covers off they had a zipper.  The bottom is made of a plastic and the top is some kind of cloth...


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Title: CLeaning the bedding
Post by: TonyM on May 06, 2006, 08:14 PM
Hey guys I have a 1995 Palomino Mustang in great shape got it last year...But the bedding covers look a bit dirty and dont smell all that great...Like dirty shoes so I took the covers off via the zipper and trying to figure out how to clean them best...any ideas...
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Post by: brainpause on May 06, 2006, 10:35 PM
I recommend spraying with Febreze. Also, just opening things up and letting it air out will help. Might consider putting charcoal briquettes here and there to help absorb the smell.

I have also heard of putting fabric softener sheets around.

Larry
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Post by: Blazin on May 07, 2006, 12:24 AM
If they have zippers which most covers do take them off and throw them in the washer! Next take the foam and place them in the tub! Use some detergents maybe a small amount of bleach and work the water in and out of the foam! Use your feet hands whatever works for you. You'll be surprised at two things. Not only how much dirt you can get out of some old cushions but also just how clean you can get them as well.
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Post by: dthurk on May 07, 2006, 06:40 AM
I did a quick Google search for cleaning foam mattresses and didn't come up with anything that seemed workable.  I would be careful about cleaning the foam with soap or bleach.  You may never get the soap out, and I would be cautious about using bleach on it.  The same about throwing the cover in a washing machine.  I may think talking to a dry cleaner to see what they might be able to do for you might be a reasonable step.
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Post by: tknick on May 07, 2006, 04:02 PM
A front loading home washer, or a commercial front loader like at the laundromat will be gentle enough on the covers to wash them.  A top loading washer with a center agitator would probably be too small and could wrap the cover up around the agitator. I would air dry them so the plastic part doesn't melt or become damaged.

that would clean the covers, but follow the other suggestions to keep them smelling good.

travis
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Post by: tlhdoc on May 08, 2006, 04:31 PM
Is this the post you thought was deleted?
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Post by: Blazin on May 08, 2006, 10:42 PM
Quotewould be careful about cleaning the foam with soap or bleach. You may never get the soap out, and I would be cautious about using bleach on it. The same about throwing the cover in a washing machine. I may think talking to a dry cleaner to see what they might be able to do for you might be a reasonable step.
Oh I wouldn't even worry about that at all. I'm not talking about a ton of bleach just a tad for sanitary purposes. Also the foam is just like a sponge. You can rinse it out just fine and it will hold up very well. With some elbow grease and some determination you can have both your covers and the foam cleaned very well right at home. To many times people are not willing to tackle a job themselves for fear that its beyond their scope. Thats just hogwash! Put those covers in the wash and again the foam in the tub! Work the foam until your water comes out clean!!!! :yikes:
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Post by: TonyM on May 09, 2006, 05:45 AM
Quote from: Blazin
Quotewould be careful about cleaning the foam with soap or bleach. You may never get the soap out, and I would be cautious about using bleach on it. The same about throwing the cover in a washing machine. I may think talking to a dry cleaner to see what they might be able to do for you might be a reasonable step.
Oh I wouldn't even worry about that at all. I'm not talking about a ton of bleach just a tad for sanitary purposes. Also the foam is just like a sponge. You can rinse it out just fine and it will hold up very well. With some elbow grease and some determination you can have both your covers and the foam cleaned very well right at home. To many times people are not willing to tackle a job themselves for fear that its beyond their scope. Thats just hogwash! Put those covers in the wash and again the foam in the tub! Work the foam until your water comes out clean!!!! :yikes:

Although I agree with you I think they were looking out for the idiot in some people not the lazy because anyone with a pop-up cannot be too lazy, unless it is one of those new colemans with the elctric popping mech...he  he
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Post by: dthurk on May 09, 2006, 06:21 AM
We own a motel.  We've got some amount of experience with cleaning and cleaning products, what they can do and what they can ruin.  

Foam IS like a sponge, that's why you're not going to get the soap out.  It will take many, many rinses, and even then it may not be removed completely.  Residual dried soap will harden the foam.  Residual bleach in a product will weaken it over time.  Foam eventually deteriorates on it's own.  Bleach will only speed up that process.  If you want to do it yourself, buy some new foam material and cut it to size.  That's probably the easiest and cheapest way to deal with the foam.  

As for the covers, I would not put a plastic product in any of our washing machines, and we do have the machines here that could handle the covers on our pop up mattresses.  Our mattress covers have fabric on one side and a plastic material on the other.  You will not get them in a household machine and have them successfully survive the experience.  If you do manage to get them in a dryer, they will melt.  A dry cleaner would have the know-how and experience to be able to handle them and get the job done right so you have mattress covers you will be able to use again.  For the number of times you would need to do this in the lifetime of a mattress cover, it would be inexpensive to have it done.
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Post by: Blazin on May 09, 2006, 11:52 PM
I still say do it yourself.  My wife and I have done this on a 70's model Popup and they came out fine.  A bit of residual soap on a piece of foam is going to be negligible for at least a couple dozen trips if not more. If anything I would imagine residual detergent would act as a surfactant and work to soften a foam which a petroleum product.  Chemistry aside we managed to work ours over enough to have the water comming out clean.  I guess its all in the way you look at things. Some people have more money than time to spare. The dollars around this Firefighters house are hard earned so we chose to do the job ourselves.  New foam and sewing your own covers is another option however I made new foam seats for my boys go-cart and it was sort of pricey for the materials. Anyway best of wishes in whatever route you take! :eyecrazy:
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Post by: TonyM on May 21, 2006, 09:27 PM
OK I will end the debate with what I did....
First I did unzip the covers and they have a plastic underside so I did not wash them in a normal washer but a front loading commercial 40lb washer.  $2.50

Then I took them out and hung them in my garage to air dry while stretched with clamps to maintain the size no shrinkage occurred.  

I did not attempt cleaning the foam but I did air them out and beat them with a broomt o get any dust out but it was relatively clean.  
I then took a tip an old lady here gave me to put plastic wrap on the end of my foam mattress before attempting to insert in into the cover.  WOW it slid right on like a glove. I tried the next without the wrap and no deal had to wrap it to get in easy.  The cover did shrink a bit but after getting the foam in and placing in the camper it has settled down.  So the moral is to ask and discern the proper route and it worked thanks guys and gals....
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Post by: dthurk on May 22, 2006, 05:36 AM
Glad to see it worked out for you   :)

Happy camping!
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Post by: ILUVTHEBEACH on May 22, 2006, 07:52 AM
How do your cushions smell now?  Mine smell musty and I am wondering if it the covers or the cushions too.  I have already tried several methods and they have not worked.  I am almost at the point of just replacing them since they are 32 years old.
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Post by: 77colemanapche on May 26, 2006, 10:07 AM
with the dry cleaning i would talk to them ,the cleaning process  is not what you think. the items are NOT washed like you would your regular garments . they are pretty much spot checked for stains the STAINS are hand scrubbed and the garment if it is a dry clean only situation is washed in a solution. rinsed and either dried through a tunnel or dryer or air dried. the chemicals they use might not be suitable for plastic. i worked in a drycleaning company and most things that came through such as this were sent out to a differnet company to do and brought back to us . made it seem we did the work but didn't really.
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Post by: fallsrider on Nov 13, 2006, 09:19 AM
My wife and I washed all the fabrics, including bed covers in our pop up this past Saturday. She just threw them in the regular top-load washer and they came out fine. It took several loads to get them all washed! Our camper is a '98 Jayco that we bought last week, by the way. Both mattress pads had a few spots of mildew on them, so I mixed up some Lysol soap (1/2 cup/gallon water) and sponged it onto the foam. We then hosed them down real good with a water hose. They hung out to dry all day Saturday, then we brought them into the house and have had them for 2 days now under a ceiling fan on high. We move them around, changing their exposure to the air a couple times each day. They feel real dry now. Tonight we will put them back into the covers, covering them with painters plastic first. We will see just how much the fabrics have shrunk. She only washed them in cold and we hung them on a clothes line outside to dry. I'm sure they still shrunk, though.

After all the cushions are back in their respective covers, we will spray them well with ScotchGuard Fabric Protector. We are hoping this will work good! We don't want to spend money on the fabrics or pads at this point, but we didn't want the mildew, either. At the very least, we hope it will buy us a couple of camping seasons.
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Post by: flyfisherman on Nov 14, 2006, 05:27 AM
Just putting the foam mattress (with and without the zippered covering) out into the summer sunshine will work wonders for removing the musty odor. When giving the Starcraft a complete housecleaning I drag out the mattress from each of the bunk ends and lay them out on some saw horses for the major part of the day, right in the direct sunshine.

For removing a couple of coffee (?) stains on the fabric side of the seating cushions (fabric one side, vinyl the other), I used the carpet cleaning foam, spraying it on, then used a brush for working the foam into the fabric and then  vacumming with the wet/dry vacumm cleaner. Next, set them in the sunshine for the better part of the day - came out clean and fresh smelling!



Fly
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Post by: Old Goat on Nov 14, 2006, 07:08 AM
When we bought our 01 Niagara new, we left the plastic shipping covers on the mattresses and have never had a problem with dirt,stains or mildew. They have no odor and look as good as new.  We use a thick mattress cover over the plastic and you never know it is there. We recently replaced one mattress with a new one which is custom made with 4" foam. WE sealed it in plastic before use and have had no problems.....
Title: dirty upholstry
Post by: maryo1944 on Dec 27, 2007, 07:34 AM
Quote from: TonyMHey guys my pop-up is a 94 model so the bed covers are dirty I am sure...how would you recomend cleaning them...I took the covers off they had a zipper.  The bottom is made of a plastic and the top is some kind of cloth...


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I know your post is old, but I don't get here that often. I took them off and washed them in the washing machine on cold. Hung them to dry. Sprayed the foam with Lysol and Frebreze. Covered them with plastic drop clothes  and taped them on so the covers would slide easily. Put the old covers back on. Just like new!!
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Post by: scottykrug on Dec 27, 2007, 10:02 AM
I agree with the above replies, the foam should not be washed.  Lowes sells the foam in sheets that can be cut exactly the same size as the original.  I just vacuumed the dust out of ours.  The covers simply unzipped like yours and I put them one at a time in our washer on the delicate cycle with woolite in cold water.  Then, just hung them out to air dry.  The use of a commercial front loading washer would be the best choice, I didn't have a coin op laundromat near by.
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Post by: PattieAM on Dec 27, 2007, 03:53 PM
My Fleetwood Niagara owners manual says:  Mattress Covers - 5% Dawn dish washing liquid and 95% water - immediately blot or wipe dry.

Cushion/backrest covers - foam type cleaners and vacuum
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Post by: ScouterMom on Jan 03, 2008, 10:04 PM
I bought  73 STARCRAFT last spring that probably spent the last 10-15 years closed up on someones back yard - it smelled musty!  it also had a leak that rotted out the back roof wall and some floorboards, but didn't damage the canvas or cushions - just made them smell.

I have allergies to mold & mildew - I couldn't sleep on that smell.

i washed ALL the 'soft' parts of my camper.  Since we had to repair the rotted roof board anyway, I even WASHED all of the canvas.

Mostly, I used plain water - lots of soaking, some scrubbing with Oxyclean or canvas cleaner on stained parts of the canvas.

I soaked EVERYTHING except the foam in a kiddie pool  on the back porch - in a mix of water and oxyclean.  Oxyclean is not a 'soap' or detergent - it doen't foam and rinses clean out of fabric.  It does loosen oil, dirt and any 'organic' stains.  It nutralizes most odors.

I used a mixture of 'febreeze for laundry' in my upholstry-cleaner / shop vac to clean the foam, and left them out in the sun in the backyard - turning them for a couple of days until they were bone dry again.

Many older (80's, 70's, 60's) camper's upholstry is not 'plastic' - it's vinyl. Vinyl holds up better unter temperature extremes - won't crack or dry out like plastic might.  Usually the surface has a 'leather look' texture and it's bonded to a light knit fabric for stability - vinyl is not as fragile as 'plastic'.  it CAN be washed and should not shrink, unless it's  washed in HOT water or put in a dryer.  usually it can be washed with a couple of old towels to 'scrub' the vinyl surface clean and hung on a line to dry.  The tops of your cushions might be upholstery material that is not intended to be 'washed'. like some throw rugs - it can be backed with a stiff coating, or rubbery backing that when washed, or old, can crack or comes apart in messy, itchy chunks.

You can try to wash these ( I did) and if you use cold water and a loose, gentle cycle, they will smell better and be cleaner.  You may have a mess in your washer filter, though, and run the risk of making the cover unusable.  I can use mine after washng them, but because my camper also came with after-market mattress covers (made of sheet material) I elected to leave them off and washed and used just the newer (maybe 15 yrs old) sheet covers.

there are inexpensive sheets available at places like WalMart (Queen flat sheets for around $5 each)  I would elect to spend $10 per bed and sew two new, washable flat sheets into a large pillowcase for the mattress.  ANYONE can manage 3 straight seams around an edge - and the opening is already hemmed for you - just tuck under the extra!  Bed covers don't have to have as 'tailored' a fit as the seat cushions, or have trim & zippers - and then you will have washable covers all the time!