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General => General => Topic started by: cobbs1 on May 13, 2006, 01:56 PM

Title: RV Enthusiast is here!
Post by: cobbs1 on May 13, 2006, 01:56 PM
Our copy of RV Enthusiast arrived today!  Looking forward to checking it out.  Thanks guys!
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Post by: GrizzlyTaco on May 13, 2006, 08:52 PM
I got mine today also, I have to say its not what i thought it would be, I Like it!! It still has PU stuff along with other interesting articles. I have a friend Robert who would like an RV, but there weren't any that had handicaped access, and the article on page 22, Sunline Unveils Handicamping Unit is really interesting, my friend is going to look into this unit. Good going Bob Zagami!! Keep up the good work..........Ed C. :sombraro:
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Post by: dee106 on May 14, 2006, 08:10 PM
:(  still waiting
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Post by: PLJ on May 14, 2006, 08:13 PM
I got my today also. I've only quickly scanned it, but it looks like a good read. Plenty of popup articles. Although what happend to the continuation of the conversion van article? I was looking forward to that. I assumed the Nico Lico test drive of the GMC Savanna conversion van would have carried forward from pop up times to RV enthusiast.
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Post by: Popupper on May 15, 2006, 09:09 PM
I received my copy today, I like it.
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Post by: AustinBoston on May 15, 2006, 09:28 PM
I was paricularly moved by former Arvee Club regular CajunCamper's tribute to his departed son, Alex.

Because of his parent's care for their sons, he got the chance to live the fullest life possible for the too few years he had.

I miss CC's contributions here, but can understand that sometimes people need to move on.

Austin
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Post by: tlhdoc on May 15, 2006, 09:48 PM
Quote from: AustinBostonI miss CC's contributions here, but can understand that sometimes people need to move on.
Austin CC does post on occasion.:)
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Post by: sandykayak on May 16, 2006, 11:33 AM
Hi, ya'll ...I've been AWOL for a long time....the hip arthritis was soo painful that popupping took too much energy. Did not get out very often last year. It's now 8 weeks since I got a new hip and I'm raring to go.  Have two trips planned.

When I got the RV Enthusiast last night, I thought, "I don't remember subscribing to this magazine."  (Camping Life, Trailer Life yes).

I saw the Popup Times on the cover and then remembered.   My back was up when I read Bob's letter saying they would include RV's up to $100K.   However, people ARE looking to upgrade and/or downsize so I can go along with this.  And that new A-frame is gorgeous.

After finishing the magazine I thought, "I'll renew the subscription."  

Cajun Camper's story must have been very difficult to write.  I met a woman at the rehab center and we were talking about kayaking.  Her son (early 20s, I believe) died about a year ago, and she was afraid that if she went kayaking it would have a negative impact since she used to paddle with him.  

My immediate response was, "Not at all.  He will love for you to go out there again and his spirit will be with you."  It was heart warming to hear Cajun Camper say that his son's spirit is with them when they camp.
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Post by: DrJ on May 16, 2006, 06:28 PM
I got my copy of RV Enthusiast today and was very pleased with what I saw. As others have said though, I certainly hope it concentrates on the smaller/less expensive end of the RV market and much less on the larger/ more expensive ($100,000) end. There are already magazines that cover that end of the market ( Trailer Life and Motorhome come to mind). However, there isn't a magazine devoted to the pup/hybrid/small TT (say under 27 ft.) market. I think this niche could be a money maker from subscribers, though probably not from advertisers. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by: tlhdoc on May 16, 2006, 08:16 PM
I also received my copy today.  It looks very nice and I am happy with the content.:)
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Post by: Wapiti Hunter on May 17, 2006, 11:50 AM
The new RVE magazine looks very similar to PUT.  I subcribed to PUT a about 18 months ago.  I subscribed because it was a pop-up related magazine.  I already subscribed to a couple of different general RV and camping magazines.  I was not real impressed with PUT--not much content.  I know they needed a change in order to become a successful magazine.  

Personally though, I don't need another general RV/Camping magazine.  I also have not been impressed by the defensive attitude of the new editor.  He seems to always respond in a condescending way toward letters from subscribers who disagree with his new direction for the magazine.  He needs to understand that many of us subscribed to PUT to read about pop-up camping, not about RV's in genreal.  I do understand that a PU magazine may not be a profitable endeavor and making money is the goal of any business.  I will not renew my subscription to PUT/RVE because I already subscribe to Camping Life a family oriented general camping magazine.  It is a very nice well done magazine and although it is not PU specific, it does cover the PU/Hybrid type of camping very well.  If another PU magazine comes on the market, I'll try it.

Mike
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Post by: garym053 on May 17, 2006, 12:57 PM
Got mine too! Like what I've seen so far!

Being on the fence about what to get for our next RV, I'm hoping that the new design will give me lts of info to think about!

I read and re-read some of the letters and the responses and have decided that (in my opinion) the responses seem to fit the accusations! If someone accuses you of pandering to one side of the industry or towards one company, then I think you have the right to defend yourself in the same tone.

Anyway, good job Bob & Dave!
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Post by: campingcop on May 17, 2006, 06:16 PM
still waiting :mad:
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Post by: masspopup on May 17, 2006, 06:38 PM
me too!
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Post by: mike4947 on May 17, 2006, 08:29 PM
Mine came today. Definitely will appeal to a wider audience, BUT, it definitely also has less appeal to someone strickly interested in PU's.
 
Maybe a name change to Compact RV Enthusiast? As that seems to be the major focus of the ne format.
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Post by: calstate360 on May 18, 2006, 09:37 AM
We recieved ours yesterday, and we enjoyed it.
It has a lot more of the trailers we and our friends camp in.
Including sitting around the fire with a margarita till the early morning.
Sal
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Post by: copcarguy on May 19, 2006, 12:40 AM
Nothing here in NY...  :(

The suspense is killing me...
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Post by: HersheyGirl on May 19, 2006, 06:29 AM
Quote from: copcarguyNothing here in NY... :(
 
The suspense is killing me...

Nothing here either!
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Post by: Zagami on May 19, 2006, 07:13 AM
We sincerely appreciate "all" the comments that our readers and subscribers post here or send directly to Dave and me.  We will defend our choice to change the name and format of the magazine but promised you to stay close to our roots and not abandon the thousands of people that have been so faithful to Pop Up Times.  

We felt it was important to include many of the negative comments in our Letters to the Editor section to recognize and share the discomfort that many were feeling with our decision.  My comments are not intended to be condescending.  We will defend our decision and try to explain what we are doiing, and why we are doing it.  I think we owe that to all our readers.

Overal, the comments have been very supportive.  We intend to continue publishing readers letters and some with have a feisty response because, quite honestly, they don't make sense.  We don't expect to change your minds if you don't like what we are doing with the magazine, but we are also not afraid to include your communications if you don't agree with us.

We did receive one e-mail that was a bit disturbing thought.  The subscriber was extremely upset with the new magazine and was going to "tell" all his friends to cancel their subscriptions.  I wrote back and told him that his friends were probably capable of making their own decisions and that he should let them decide on their own if they liked the new magazine.  He is certainly free to express his thoughts, but the new magazine contained three stories on pop-ups!  When was the last time Pop UP Times included three feature stories on new campers?  

I think our readers are smart enough to make up their own minds about the new magazine.  Your comments here and through your e-mails prove that to be true.

We will be focusing on affordable camping units and you will not see a lot of $100,000 units in the magazine ... I promise you that.  We picked that number as the upper limit of where we wanted to focus, but we know and appreciate the audience that we write for and want to continue providing you with information on new products and experiences that are close to your heart ... and close to the ground.

Please continue to let us know how we are doing and sharing your comments either directly with us via e-mail or through the forums.  This is the real measure of our work and we appreciate each and every response.

Thanks for contributing.

Bob
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Post by: DrJ on May 19, 2006, 07:48 AM
QuoteWe will be focusing on affordable camping units and you will not see a lot of $100,000 units in the magazine ... I promise you that.

Hi Bob and thanks for responding to this thread. I really enjoyed the first issue of RVE and thought the content was completely appropriate ...IMHO. My only concern was that the magazine would try to compete with Trailer Life/Motorhome. I used to subscribe to TL but dropped it because they went almost entirely to the high end units in their content. I looked at the latest copy just the other day and almost all of the stories and ads were for huge 5ers and TT that you almost need a semi to tow. That is fine, but it is not my interest. I enjoy reading about all sorts of units but at the lower, more affordable end of the scale and, as I said in my earlier post, I don't know of another publication that is concentrating on that niche ( Camping Life,maybe, but they tend to focus more on tent camping). Your comment, quoted above, is really what I wanted to hear. Now, how about more content  ;)

Good luck and keep up the good work,
Jim
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Post by: BigJohn on May 19, 2006, 10:55 AM
I got mine yesterday, I really like it, and I am one of those that progressed from PUP to Hybrid, and I think this is a great move on the part of RVE to not only provide information to PUPs but also the expanding populous of HTT owners and medium priced RVer's.....

It's a KEEPER for me !
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Post by: camperkam on May 19, 2006, 04:29 PM
Got it! Read it!  Love it!




Popping up for 40 years.
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Post by: HersheyGirl on May 19, 2006, 07:43 PM
Rats, I still haven't got mine. :mad:
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Post by: outdoors5 on May 19, 2006, 08:50 PM
So far the new magazine seems good.  Just truly hope the pop-up and low to medium end, for other type of campers, stays the focuse.  Also helpful would be reviews on tow vehicles and related equipment for this type of camping.
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Post by: OC Campers on May 20, 2006, 03:12 AM
We received RVE the other day and we really enjoyed it.  

We have been trying to find the Starcraft 36RT at a local dealer and haven't been able to find one and then Voila, it its in RVE.    
 
Jacqui
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Post by: HersheyGirl on May 20, 2006, 12:37 PM
Still haven't got it. :(
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Post by: tlhdoc on May 20, 2006, 06:39 PM
Quote from: HersheyGirlStill haven't got it. :(
Did you tick someone off?;)
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Post by: GrizzlyTaco on May 20, 2006, 10:13 PM
Bob Zagami, I read the new RVE and really enjoyed it, the one thing I notice about it and the issues of PUT is that you only list the magazines web site, but you dont let readers really know about this site and what it has to offer, like the friendly advice, and the friendships that start here, and the how to advice, the reciepes and alot more. I've been hooked on this site since October of last year when i joined. I was a PU newbie and believe me if it wasn't for this site i dont think having the PU would have been easy to learnon my own. All the RV dealers here really dont want to be bothered with questions about PU's or they just dont know. Its nice to have a place to learn where others take there time to explain and are patient, because everyone learns at different speeds. What I'm getting at, is why dont you do an article on this site and all it has to offer, i'm sure it would get the attention of your readers that dont even know this site exist.........Thanks for Everything............Ed :sombraro:
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Post by: Lancelot Link on May 21, 2006, 12:32 AM
Sorry, no brown nosing here. I don't like the new format. I also never have cared for the harvesting of content from this site to make articles for the magazine. The new mag looks like a bad version af Trailer Life.
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Post by: GrizzlyTaco on May 21, 2006, 07:28 PM
Quote from: Lancelot LinkSorry, no brown nosing here. I don't like the new format. I also never have cared for the harvesting of content from this site to make articles for the magazine. The new mag looks like a bad version af Trailer Life.

Everyone's entitled to their Opinion!!!!!
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Post by: Old Goat on May 22, 2006, 06:56 AM
Quote from: Lancelot LinkSorry, no brown nosing here. I don't like the new format. I also never have cared for the harvesting of content from this site to make articles for the magazine. The new mag looks like a bad version af Trailer Life.

Be nice Chuck........
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Post by: Kelly on May 22, 2006, 07:59 AM
Quote from: Lancelot Link*** I also never have cared for the harvesting of content from this site to make articles for the magazine. ***

Why not?  We're the folks in the field ... seems to me that's where a lot of good ideas and information are going to come from.  

IMHO part of the function of the magazine is to help inexperienced campers (I'm still not an RVer  ;) ) become experienced ones.  The board is one way to do that (just like Ed said) and the mag is another way.  

Perhaps more of us should submit articles to Bob ...
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Post by: wavery on May 22, 2006, 09:25 AM
Quote from: Lancelot LinkSorry, no brown nosing here. I don't like the new format. I also never have cared for the harvesting of content from this site to make articles for the magazine. The new mag looks like a bad version af Trailer Life.
Good post. It's important to have both ends of the spectrum represented. Opinions are opinions. I'm very happy that we can all be honest about being individual.

I haven't seen the mag yet. However, the main idea of appealing to a broader audience only makes sense to me. Just look at this board. Almost everyone here joined the board while owning or looking for a PU. Many of the members here have now moved to other types of RVs. We see travel trailers and hybrids galore. Most have stayed with the message board however. That should tell you something :D .
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Post by: campingcop on May 22, 2006, 03:18 PM
Just look at this board. Almost everyone here joined the board while owning or looking for a PU. Many of the members here have now moved to other types of RVs. We see travel trailers and hybrids galore. Most have stayed with the message board however. That should tell you something  .


I have to agree, I started with a tent then went to a pop up and now have a hybrid.  I'm still here although I don't post a lot I do read the board every day.
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Post by: HersheyGirl on May 22, 2006, 04:42 PM
:( Mine still hasn't come.  I wonder where it is? :confused:
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Post by: tlhdoc on May 22, 2006, 05:53 PM
Quote from: HersheyGirl:( Mine still hasn't come. I wonder where it is? :confused:
You must have been very bad (I bet the awning ferry told Dave) to not get your magazine.;) :D
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Post by: Used 2B PopUPTimes on May 22, 2006, 07:43 PM
Quote from: tlhdocYou must have been very bad (I bet the awning ferry told Dave) to not get your magazine.;) :D

The awning ferry???
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Post by: Kelly on May 22, 2006, 07:47 PM
Quote from: PopUPTimesThe awning ferry???


Yea ~ it's that big boat that takes you and your camper to la-la land.   :D
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Post by: tlhdoc on May 22, 2006, 07:59 PM
Quote from: PopUPTimesThe awning ferry???
Oops fairy not ferry.
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Post by: HersheyGirl on May 23, 2006, 07:27 PM
:( :( :(  Still not here. :confused: :( :(
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Post by: brainpause on May 23, 2006, 09:25 PM
Don't worry...it will come. We are always last here in Tennessee, but it always arrives.

Larry
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Post by: Zagami on May 23, 2006, 09:46 PM
Originally Posted by Lancelot Link
Sorry, no brown nosing here. I don't like the new format. I also never have cared for the harvesting of content from this site to make articles for the magazine. The new mag looks like a bad version af Trailer Life.
 
Ouch!  Now that's cruel, but we'll respect your opinion.  But I'm confused, have you ever seen a "good" version of Trailer Life?
 
Believe me, we have no desire to be Trailer Life or Motorhome, they have a different agenda ... promoting everything and everybody associated with the Affinity Group and their vast RV holdings that include Camping World, Trailer Life, Motorhome, Good Sam Club, RV Today (television program), Camping World President's Club, Golf Card Club, Coast to Coast Club, Camping Life, Campground Management, RV Business (trade magazine), Woodall's buyer's guide and camping directory, Trailer Life camping directory and buyer's guide, Highways magazine, RV View magazine ... and don't forget their insurance programs, financing programs, and rallies!
 
AGI is close to a $500 million dollar RV giant.
 
We are delighted that you would include Dave and I in the same sentence as our much larger competitor!
 
We respectfully disagree with you though, we think it's a real good version of RV Enthusiast!
 
 
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Post by: copcarguy on May 24, 2006, 02:25 AM
Quote from: HersheyGirl:( :( :( Still not here. :confused: :( :(

Don't feel too bad Becky - I have not gotten mine yet either.  The mail lady is starting to think I am nuts, waiting for her to bring the mail this week and meeting her at the mailbox.  Maybe it's a COTOC thing that we haven't gotten our issues...  ??
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Post by: tlhdoc on May 24, 2006, 04:23 PM
Quote from: copcarguyDon't feel too bad Becky - I have not gotten mine yet either. The mail lady is starting to think I am nuts, waiting for her to bring the mail this week and meeting her at the mailbox. Maybe it's a COTOC thing that we haven't gotten our issues... ??
I received mine.:D
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Post by: HersheyGirl on May 24, 2006, 05:46 PM
Quote from: copcarguyDon't feel too bad Becky - I have not gotten mine yet either. The mail lady is starting to think I am nuts, waiting for her to bring the mail this week and meeting her at the mailbox. Maybe it's a COTOC thing that we haven't gotten our issues... ??

Maybe We are just Special, Rick! :p