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Title: Water In/Out
Post by: ohstfaninnc on Jun 29, 2006, 09:04 AM
I hope someone out there can help us.  We just purchased our first pop-up a 2001 Jayco Eagle 14SO and we need help on the water system.  The manual doesn't seem to help too much.  We connect the water hose from the campground spigot to the city water valve but don't know where to hook up our other hose so the water will drain from the sink into the campground waste water drain.  We've tried everything, but when we turn the water on in the sink it immediately discharges out the back of the camper from the hot water tank.  Please excuse our ignorance but we can't figure this out.
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Post by: Weber Grill on Jun 29, 2006, 09:12 AM
Is it draining from the water line(s) to/from the water heater or the actual water heater? I know my water lines to/from the water heater have drain valves at the low point in the lines so I can completly drain the lines.

I am going to assume most all RV style water heaters are the similar, on the front of the water heater is a plug/drain that can be removed to drain the water heater (during winter/storage). Is this 'plug' missing?

Patrick :usflag:
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Post by: ohstfaninnc on Jun 29, 2006, 09:26 AM
We actually put the plug in to the water heater and turn the water on in the sink - then no water came out at all.  We thought the outside plug directly where the sink is would be where the hose would connect to let the water drain out, but that isn't the case - when I draw water into the sink if the plug is in the hot water tank - no water drains out at all - does the hot water tank have to fill up before it will come out??  Thanks for any and all of your help.
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Post by: mike4947 on Jun 29, 2006, 11:25 AM
Yup, it takes 6 gallons to fill the water heater, and you'll get air until it fills. Also do not start the water heater until you are assolutely sure it's full. If you have an outside shower you can use it to let the air out rather than the sink faucet. When the air comes out as the water fills you normally get some "spurting" and it can go all over when using the faucet inside the trialer.
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Post by: ohstfaninnc on Jun 29, 2006, 12:45 PM
Mike4947 - sorry, but I don't think I'm explaining this correctly so I'll start over - sorry but I'm a new camper.  When we are setting up the camper we hook up our freshwater hose, but we can't figure out where the other hose connects to the camper that will take the old water out.  When we first used the water at the sink (no air in the lines) we had water coming out of our hotwater tank all over the ground - then we found the plug so we plugged the hotwater tank.  Now we still can't figure out where are we supposed to hook up our other hose to get the water out of the camper once we drain the sink??  Can you help me with this?
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Post by: oldmoose on Jun 29, 2006, 12:46 PM
On our Jayco the water in is right above the water out. If yours is the same, there might be something blocking the drain.

Moose
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Post by: ohstfaninnc on Jun 29, 2006, 01:05 PM
We do hook up our hose to what appears to be the logical out for the water which is right beside the city water connection, but no water ever comes out of that connection - not even a drop....our manual just doesn't help here.
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Post by: Weber Grill on Jun 29, 2006, 01:37 PM
Do you have a inside shower also or just the galley sink? If you have a shower, does the water drain from that?

If the water isn't draining, is the sink full now and the water has nowhere to go?  If this is the case, you may be blocked up as Moose mentioned. Maybe check the 'P' trap under the sink, could be as simple as that.

Patrick :usflag:
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Post by: ohstfaninnc on Jun 29, 2006, 01:46 PM
No inside shower/toilet - just the outside shower.  The water drains from the sink and is going somewhere but we don't know where because it's not coming out of the hose that we have hooked up outside to go into the sewer.  I'll check with everything on the sink - any other suggestions?  Thanks to all of you for any and all help.
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Post by: Garrett on Jun 29, 2006, 02:06 PM
This really should not be this difficult.  Typically the sink drain is directly inline and just below the sink.  It should be a male hose thread connection.
If you do not have that it is somewhat possible that a Jayco could have a small grey water tank.  In which case the outlet drain would be just below the frame of the PU and would probably be an 1 1/4 connection.

That water is going somewhere.  Can you look in the cabinet under the sink and see where the drain hose is going.
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Post by: ohstfaninnc on Jun 29, 2006, 02:11 PM
I totally agree about the difficulty level and I've usually never had so much trouble figuring something out.  The male connection is exactly as you stated, but no water comes out the hose.  We're just at a loss as to where the water could possibly be going at this point.  I've filled the sink up twice and the water has drained from the sink, but hasn't exited the camper........I'm biting my tongue but maybe I just need to go back to tenting.......you're right.....that's a dumb idea....I'm desperate!
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Post by: Garrett on Jun 29, 2006, 02:35 PM
Okay, by process of elimination.  

1. Water is going somewhere.

2. There is a drain on the side of the camper, but no water comes out of the drain

3.  This is a 2001 unit and you are not the original owner.

Somebody has modified this PU and installed a grey water tank.  You need to open the cabinets, take out the drawers whatever you need to do to trace the drain line from the sink and see where it goes.

I am convinced that somewhere underneath the PU is a aftermarket drain valve.
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Post by: ohstfaninnc on Jun 29, 2006, 02:55 PM
You're right we are not the original owners and this is our first PU.  We will definitely look it over and see if we see the grey tank - however, we did put a brand new floor in the entire PU (including under the cabinets and in the storage areas) and never once saw a grey tank anywhere, but you're right it has to be going somewhere.  Thanks for all your help.
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Post by: Mr. Nailz on Jun 29, 2006, 03:21 PM
Quote from: ohstfaninncYou're right we are not the original owners and this is our first PU.  We will definitely look it over and see if we see the grey tank - however, we did put a brand new floor in the entire PU (including under the cabinets and in the storage areas) and never once saw a grey tank anywhere, but you're right it has to be going somewhere.  Thanks for all your help.


I had the same problem when we got ours last year.  There should be a hose type hook up under your camper with a cap on it.  Ours was just behind and below where the sink sits on the underside of the camper.  You should be able to follow the drain pipe down to the approx. location.  I had my sink leak out all over a couple of time before I figured it out, so don't feel too dumb.  Good luck , I hope this is the answer.
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Post by: Garrett on Jun 29, 2006, 03:22 PM
WHOA!  that cetainly changes things.  That means you had all the cabinets out.  Now I am suspecting that when you put them back in the sink drain was never hooked back up.  I bet that water is lying in the bottom of your cabinets and if you keep running water it will eventually show up and run all over the floor.  Or where do you have the PU parked.  It could be slowly seeping outside and soaking in and you are just not noticing it.
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Post by: mike4947 on Jun 29, 2006, 06:14 PM
What make/model/year PU are we talking about? New or new to U?

Unless the previous owner did some DIY plumbing, the "exit"/gray water connection should be another connection on either the side of the trailer where the sink is located or under the trailer about the same place. It can be a simple hose connection or a threaded plumbing connection like you'd like under a house sink. They make and adapter that screws on to convert the plumbing connection to a garden hose connection.
BUT, if nothing is coming out it's going somewhere and hopefully not filling something up insdie the camper.
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Post by: wavery on Jun 29, 2006, 06:35 PM
Here's my guess. When they hooked up the sink drain hose and the fresh-water tank fill hose, they may have mixed up the hoses. I have a feeling that if you put water in the outside water fill port, water may come up the sink drain and fill the sink. ;)

If the water is not coming out anywhere, it stands to reason, that the water may be going back into the water tank through the misplaced water tank fill hose.. I believe that both hoses are the same size. Seems like an easy thing to mix up.
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Post by: Garrett on Jul 03, 2006, 09:41 AM
Sooooo?  Have you figured out where the water was going yet?  The suspense is killing me.
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jul 03, 2006, 07:39 PM
This is sure a strange one.:eyecrazy:  Follow the hose from the sink drain and see where it goes.  You might want to put some food coloring in the water in the sink so that IF it is going into your fresh water holding tank you will be able to trace the water easier.  Good luck and let us know where it is going.:)