Title: Toilet Paper
Post by: Hackker on Jun 26, 2007, 06:58 AM
Post by: Hackker on Jun 26, 2007, 06:58 AM
My wife asked me to post this. haha
Do you really need to use the special RV toilet paper or can you use normal stuff and common sense (ie: don't throw 14lbs down at a time)?
Do you really need to use the special RV toilet paper or can you use normal stuff and common sense (ie: don't throw 14lbs down at a time)?
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Post by: bluevette87 on Jun 26, 2007, 09:36 AM
Post by: bluevette87 on Jun 26, 2007, 09:36 AM
the RV stuff dissolves and the regular stuff does not.if you have to dump it may cause a clog.
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Post by: wavery on Jun 26, 2007, 10:00 AM
Post by: wavery on Jun 26, 2007, 10:00 AM
bluevette87 is technically correct but I have been camping for 50 years and hate that RV toilet paper :swear: .....you'd might as well just use your fingers :yikes:
We use regular TP and have never had a problem :sombraro: . You need to be more diligent when flushing the holding tank but (IMHO) it's worth it. I don't like paying more for less just because it says "RV" on the package :mad: .
If you are concerned about the TP breaking down, buy single ply TP and wear rubber gloves. :J
We use regular TP and have never had a problem :sombraro: . You need to be more diligent when flushing the holding tank but (IMHO) it's worth it. I don't like paying more for less just because it says "RV" on the package :mad: .
If you are concerned about the TP breaking down, buy single ply TP and wear rubber gloves. :J
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Post by: fritz_monroe on Jun 26, 2007, 10:56 AM
Post by: fritz_monroe on Jun 26, 2007, 10:56 AM
We never use the RV toilet paper. I use Scotts toilet paper in the cassette toilet.
Somewhere on the web is the results of a test of various toilet papers including the RV brands.
I also have seen it mentioned that to test if you should use any toilet paper use this test. Fill a quart jar half full with water and put in 3 sheets of toilet paper. Shake it gently and let it sit. Check in 15 minutes and if it's not in tiny pieces, don't use it in the RV.
Somewhere on the web is the results of a test of various toilet papers including the RV brands.
I also have seen it mentioned that to test if you should use any toilet paper use this test. Fill a quart jar half full with water and put in 3 sheets of toilet paper. Shake it gently and let it sit. Check in 15 minutes and if it's not in tiny pieces, don't use it in the RV.
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Post by: tlhdoc on Jun 26, 2007, 06:45 PM
Post by: tlhdoc on Jun 26, 2007, 06:45 PM
I like the 2 ply RV toilet paper. I had problems with Scott's not breaking down quick enough. We do use Scott's at home though.:)
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Post by: SheBantam on Jun 26, 2007, 06:53 PM
Post by: SheBantam on Jun 26, 2007, 06:53 PM
I have a rule, nothing solid goes into the toilet (illnesses excluded of course), if you want to throw TP down the tube, or anything else solid, :o then you are the one to have to clean the tank :mad: ...works wonders in forcing compliance with my rules... :U
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Post by: sewserious on Jun 26, 2007, 08:06 PM
Post by: sewserious on Jun 26, 2007, 08:06 PM
Quote from: SheBantamI have a rule, nothing solid goes into the toilet (illnesses excluded of course), if you want to throw TP down the tube, or anything else solid, :o then you are the one to have to clean the tank :mad: ...works wonders in forcing compliance with my rules... :U
I'm not trying to be a smart-aleck, but why in the world do you even have a toilet if no one can use it for what it is intended for? The proper toilet paper does not stay solid, it dissolves away into nothingness.
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Post by: GeneF on Jun 26, 2007, 09:53 PM
Post by: GeneF on Jun 26, 2007, 09:53 PM
On the back of a roll of Scott toilet tissue:
Safe for Septic and RV.
Use the stuff in the Kiwi and no problems.
We paid big bucks for the rolling bathroom, and we do use it.
Safe for Septic and RV.
Use the stuff in the Kiwi and no problems.
We paid big bucks for the rolling bathroom, and we do use it.
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Post by: mike4947 on Jun 27, 2007, 05:59 AM
Post by: mike4947 on Jun 27, 2007, 05:59 AM
The "standard test" for years has been a sheet in a glass of water and it should start breaking up by itself in under a minute.
As a side note Scott's has been a staple in the RV world for years; and it always passed the test in under 30 seconds. Scott's recently came out with an RV version of their toilet paper and bragged on how it would break down in a minute. We tested both types and the standard version did undeed break down faster than their RV version at 1/4th the cost...LOL
As a side note Scott's has been a staple in the RV world for years; and it always passed the test in under 30 seconds. Scott's recently came out with an RV version of their toilet paper and bragged on how it would break down in a minute. We tested both types and the standard version did undeed break down faster than their RV version at 1/4th the cost...LOL
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Post by: Hackker on Jun 27, 2007, 07:41 AM
Post by: Hackker on Jun 27, 2007, 07:41 AM
Cool - I'll try the test. My wife and myself realized we have a LOT to learn. Thanks again for the help!
Tomorrow we pickup the new PU and next week will be our first trip (close to home!). Should be an adventure, especially with the 4 & 2 year old kids.
Tomorrow we pickup the new PU and next week will be our first trip (close to home!). Should be an adventure, especially with the 4 & 2 year old kids.
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Post by: oldmoose on Jun 27, 2007, 11:22 AM
Post by: oldmoose on Jun 27, 2007, 11:22 AM
While we prefer to use our toilet for liquid waste only, it's used for solid waste when we can't get to a regular bathroom. We also use Scotts.
Moose
Moose
Title: Doofus???
Post by: daldricht on Jun 27, 2007, 12:19 PM
Post by: daldricht on Jun 27, 2007, 12:19 PM
Need a picture of Doofus? Do you travel with him? And 9 grandkids, rubber gloves with your toilet paper - you sound like you would be fun to be around. Where are you located? We are presently in NOVA (Northern VA) about 30-miles of DC but moving to Ground Hog Hill (Punxsutawney PA).
Keep up the humor - sounds like you are all having a good time.
Keep up the humor - sounds like you are all having a good time.
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Post by: wavery on Jun 27, 2007, 01:03 PM
Post by: wavery on Jun 27, 2007, 01:03 PM
Quote from: daldrichtNeed a picture of Doofus? Do you travel with him? And 9 grandkids, rubber gloves with your toilet paper - you sound like you would be fun to be around. Where are you located? We are presently in NOVA (Northern VA) about 30-miles of DC but moving to Ground Hog Hill (Punxsutawney PA).Yep.......Doofus goes everywhere with us, camping, walks, beach, store.....everywhere. His favorite place in the world is riding in the car :p .
Keep up the humor - sounds like you are all having a good time.
We live in West Los Angeles. We confine our camping to SoCal. :sombraro: :S
Title: Doofus
Post by: daldricht on Jun 30, 2007, 12:16 PM
Post by: daldricht on Jun 30, 2007, 12:16 PM
Dear Carolyn & Wayne,
Doofus is marvelous! Love the name and the colors on him look like you spray painted him. Love the hanging post on the corner of your visor. It is so much more fun when the critters enjoy traveling with everyone. We have a cat (Siamese mix) that is too skittish and know we would loose him if we tried traveling with him. The 19-month old Doberman loves the word "RIDE" or to hear the rattle of keys and he is at the back door collecting his leash to go.
Have to tell you I was in the Amazon in Peru 2-years ago and those magnificent blue macaw and the green parrots fly around from 5AM to about 8AM as the heat begins to build up. They are all flying around - literally thousands of them - not sure how they do not crash into each other - fighting to get the highest palm tree tops. I do not think I have ever watched or enjoyed watching birds of various varieties flying around as much as I did in the Amazon. We spent 4 days in a wilderness lodge and even had the opportunity to watch a giant fresh water otter family paddle around the lake we were on. The only way you can get to this lodge is by Indian porters that paddle you across this lake that is infested with everything - including cayman (lots of them) so you do not rock that boat. Great trip - have done it, got the T-shirt but would never do it again. If you ever are giving an opportunity - do it ONCE!
Thanks for the Doofus photo - love it!
Dave
Doofus is marvelous! Love the name and the colors on him look like you spray painted him. Love the hanging post on the corner of your visor. It is so much more fun when the critters enjoy traveling with everyone. We have a cat (Siamese mix) that is too skittish and know we would loose him if we tried traveling with him. The 19-month old Doberman loves the word "RIDE" or to hear the rattle of keys and he is at the back door collecting his leash to go.
Have to tell you I was in the Amazon in Peru 2-years ago and those magnificent blue macaw and the green parrots fly around from 5AM to about 8AM as the heat begins to build up. They are all flying around - literally thousands of them - not sure how they do not crash into each other - fighting to get the highest palm tree tops. I do not think I have ever watched or enjoyed watching birds of various varieties flying around as much as I did in the Amazon. We spent 4 days in a wilderness lodge and even had the opportunity to watch a giant fresh water otter family paddle around the lake we were on. The only way you can get to this lodge is by Indian porters that paddle you across this lake that is infested with everything - including cayman (lots of them) so you do not rock that boat. Great trip - have done it, got the T-shirt but would never do it again. If you ever are giving an opportunity - do it ONCE!
Thanks for the Doofus photo - love it!
Dave
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Post by: Nemesis56 on Jun 30, 2007, 01:41 PM
Post by: Nemesis56 on Jun 30, 2007, 01:41 PM
We have used a Thetford Pota Potti for years on our boats. We have had best results emptying the tank when we used the quick disolve paper instead of regular. It never seemed to fail that half way thru the emptying process with regular paper, there would be a clog that would have to be cleared. With the quick dissolve, just drain and go. Our general rule of thumb is just #1, but with 8 people on a daycruise inevitibily someone needs to go up one level.
Just my 2 cents.
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by: Old Goat on Jun 30, 2007, 04:03 PM
Post by: Old Goat on Jun 30, 2007, 04:03 PM
I recall a fellow inventing a small incenerating toilet some years ago. It used propane to burn up everything that was put into it and operated free of odors. JUst think, with one of these in a camper, you would not have to worry about special toilet paper or what went into it. The ashes left are inviromently friendly and could be dumped anywhere. You could possibly heat the camper with it in cold weather........if it had a lot of use......
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Post by: wavery on Jun 30, 2007, 04:13 PM
Post by: wavery on Jun 30, 2007, 04:13 PM
Quote from: Old GoatI recall a fellow inventing a small incenerating toilet some years ago. It used propane to burn up everything that was put into it and operated free of odors. JUst think, with one of these in a camper, you would not have to worry about special toilet paper or what went into it. The ashes left are inviromently friendly and could be dumped anywhere. You could possibly heat the camper with it in cold weather........if it had a lot of use......I wonder if you may be thinking of a Marine toilet called a Lectrasan (or something like it):
http://www.fishing-catalog.com/heads/lectrasan.htm
http://www.envirolet.com/enwatremsys11.html
Their are also propane models out there.
It could easily be adapted to an RV. It's a bit pricey and you would have to add salt to the system. It also requires a fair amount of electricity. I had 2 of them on my boat. They work great.
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Post by: fritz_monroe on Jun 30, 2007, 06:08 PM
Post by: fritz_monroe on Jun 30, 2007, 06:08 PM
There are free standing models as well.
like this (//%22http://www.propaneproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=propprod&Product_Code=STOR-60KP%22)
I wonder if we will start seeing these in campgrounds. I think that if I had a cabin somewhere, I might look into these.
like this (//%22http://www.propaneproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=propprod&Product_Code=STOR-60KP%22)
I wonder if we will start seeing these in campgrounds. I think that if I had a cabin somewhere, I might look into these.
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Post by: Old Goat on Jun 30, 2007, 06:42 PM
Post by: Old Goat on Jun 30, 2007, 06:42 PM
Quote from: fritz_monroeThere are free standing models as well.
like this
I wonder if we will start seeing these in campgrounds. I think that if I had a cabin somewhere, I might look into these.
Are these things fool proof? Can they backfire or explode if a large amount of intestinal methane is released into them?
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Post by: fritz_monroe on Jun 30, 2007, 09:23 PM
Post by: fritz_monroe on Jun 30, 2007, 09:23 PM
I'm thinking that if I boosted my bean intake, I could probably get away without buying propane to run this thing.
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Post by: mike4947 on Jun 30, 2007, 11:13 PM
Post by: mike4947 on Jun 30, 2007, 11:13 PM
They are very popular in Japan, where water and sewage are very big issues. They work well when used within their limits, but they do need emptying occasionally of the ash and sometime it can turn into a concrete like substance (they don't tell you that in the brochures...LOL) They also use a LOT of energy to dry out and then burn the materials to ash.
Not really practical for an RV because of the size of the units and the power requirements.
WIth all the wacko's, gadget freaks, and the latest&greatest toy purchasers in our extended camping family I get exposed to quite a lot of stuff that sounds good on paper...LOL
Not really practical for an RV because of the size of the units and the power requirements.
WIth all the wacko's, gadget freaks, and the latest&greatest toy purchasers in our extended camping family I get exposed to quite a lot of stuff that sounds good on paper...LOL