If you could make ONE realistic change to your camper, what would it be and why? Please just post ONE change.
I would love to have see through windows in the bunkends. They would allow you to see out when the weather causes you to keep the bunkend windows zippered closed.:)
The one thing that really bothers me about our 2008 Flagstaff 625D is the drain system. It has a drain on road side by the sink and another on the curb side for the shower. This means two grey water tanks, or one tank and run the other to sewer hookup if available. My next project for the PUP is to run a pipe under it to connect the two drains.
Quote from: TopflightThe one thing that really bothers me about our 2008 Flagstaff 625D is the drain system. It has a drain on road side by the sink and another on the curb side for the shower. This means two grey water tanks, or one tank and run the other to sewer hookup if available. My next project for the PUP is to run a pipe under it to connect the two drains.
One word of caution. It your grey water tank fills up and you are running water down the sink drain it will come up the shower drain. Don't ask me how I know.:o
A full exterior "make-over" Then it would be perfect :) .
I would have Reflectix-like material (aluminized bubble plastic) built into the roof tenting material. I've been thinking about it for years, posted the idea to numerouls questions like this, and can't understand why no manufacturer has it, at least as an option. Imagine not having to think about, attach, store, or fiddle with Pop-up Gizmo's covers or homemade bunk covers again. Not that I want to put him out of business, but a built-in "cover" would be very convenient.
Austin
I'd probably make a bigger grey water tank, or a bigger water heater for longer showers.
Larry
Without a doubt, I would make the stabilizing jacks burley enough to level the camper.
I would make the under dinette storage accessible from outside. Would make packing much easier.
We have an 88 Coleman Plantation with a shower and toilet. Each has a thick wooden cover that goes over them. I have to remove the and put them somewhere if we want to use either one. My change would be that they be hinged to just fold up while popped up giving us a hard wall and eliminating the need to keep moving them.
For those that are thinking that I put the hinges on myself, I have looked at it and the way that it's designed doesn't make it possible. Maybe when I have time I can design new covers myself that will do the trick.
My 1999 Coleman does have a hinged panel over the shower/cassette potty and it is a nice feature. A friend of mine has a Palomino that has the wooden cover that she has to move when they set up the shower/cassette potty. It is a pain.:)
Quote from: tlhdocMy 1999 Coleman does have a hinged panel over the shower/cassette potty and it is a nice feature. A friend of mine has a Palomino that has the wooden cover that she has to move when they set up the shower/cassette potty. It is a pain.:)
Oh, but I don't move it anymore....I left that heavy sucker at home. What a pain to remove and find a place to store it.
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QuoteOriginally Posted by tlhdoc
My 1999 Coleman does have a hinged panel over the shower/cassette potty and it is a nice feature. A friend of mine has a Palomino that has the wooden cover that she has to move when they set up the shower/cassette potty. It is a pain.:)
Quote[/indent]Oh, but I don't move it anymore....I left that heavy sucker at home. What a pain to remove and find a place to store it.
We had one of those, removed it the 1st yr we had the camper.
I'd change the stove...well not change it, but remove it and have a solid counter and an extra drawer. If we ever wanrted to cook inside I could bring in the small coleman stove I don't like.
We chose a very simple pop-up (Jayco J/trax), but I miss the sink we used to have. If I could have a sink, I would like to have an outside sink that could be accesed thru an outdoor door and pulled into place like a slide out. It would use a a tank under the camper for water storage or connect to city water. It would have a demand pump for using the water storage. The drain would go into a grey water tank under the camper or into a park sewage drain. It would be nice to have hot water, but not necessary. This would help with hand washing, dish washing, brushing teeth, etc, but would not take up inside space nor make a mess with water inside. The case where the slide out sink would be stored could be the size of the porta-potty cabnet inside.
Maybe a built-in cassette potty.
I would like to have an oven in the pop-up, especially when camping and cooking during Holiday weekends and cooking Easter and Thanksgiving dinners.
I would like to see a refrigerator that's accessable from both inside and outside the camper. It's a pain stocking the fridge (I have to get on my knees and sometimes that's not easy). Having a door on the outside of the PUP would be perfect hight and would make cooking easier, no more going in and out of the camper to get stuff, taking your shoes off each time etc..
I'm sure somebody could make this work.
Quote from: wernstriumphI would like to see a refrigerator that's accessable from both inside and outside the camper.
There's a lot of nifty ideas like that that we consumers would like to see. The problem is, I think, that not enough consumers would buy that product or spend the extra money for it, so they could never make it work economically.
I would like to see a divider drape that will separate right across the center of the cabin area. Being the only male of the group I am eigther sent out or have to change in one of the bunk ends. It would be nice to be able to change standing up.
By next camp out I will have my own solution for this.
I would like to raise the ground clearance of my 97 Santa Fe and put on a larger more substantial set of tires. Our camping trend is going more to dry camping in more remote locations.
CajunCamper
Well, we've been to one outting in our Avalon, and I must admit, as of right now, the only thing I would like to have, that I don't have... is those guages that tell you how much propane you have, and a battery meter, those are aftermarket, and around, I just need to get them and install them. Our Avalon has the hardwalled bathroom, oven, indoor and outdoor cooking tops, furnace, a/c, as well as a dressing curtain that I can put in that divides the camper at the bathroom. So realistically I can't complain too much about any of it ;) We LOVE our camper!! Now I just want a bigger TV... MWAHAHAHAHA
Implement some kind of fold up pantry/clothes closet - similiar to the unfolding of the hardwalled bathroom - maybe between the glide-out dinette and l-shaped sofa end. Sure would be nice to hang some clothes without stressing the roof, and have some kind of shelf at eye level rather than bending, moving things around to find a can of something. (Yea - I know - I'm lazy)
The particular era for my Starcraft offered two different series of popups, the Venture line (which I have) and the Classic line. As for the model I have it was essentially the same unit for both series with the major difference being the Venture had a straight leaf spring axle suspension, the Goshen lift and a seamed aluminum roof. The Classic had the Torflex independent suspension, Starcraft's own patented lift system and a seamless fiberglass roof; the canvas, interior wood trim, exterior aluminum skin and floor plan were the same for both models.
If I could have ONE change in mine it would be for the Torflex independent suspension. A fishing buddy in our group had the Classic series in a little larger model than mine and has the Torflex suspension and I've towed it a couple of times. Although his a little larger and a little heavier, it tows better and smoother with the Torflex.
Fly
QuoteI would like to see a refrigerator that's accessable from both inside and outside the camper.
I'm pretty sure that I've seen a fridge that has the cooling coils on the side and a door inside and out. But for the life of me I can't find them now. I think they may have been manufactured by a company other than Norcold or Dometic.
since I would have to list one.... running water inside the pup... get rid of the hand pump, that I hate so much. But a new PUP would solve most of my list of what I would change.....
Sorry for the caps but I want to shout this...
MAKE THE STABILIZERS INTO LEVELERS!!!!
It is silly that we need to buy & store levelers. The cost of additional material for the leveler and the frame would be insignificant to the final cost of the trailer....
A change? Ok ..
A camper / hard side that accomodates 2 families.
When we go camping, we mostly go with my best friend and his wife / 2 kids. We, meaning myself and my 13 year old. We share the big bunk, my buddy and his wife take the smaller one, and his kids get the table bed. Works for now - but I'd like something bigger .. But all the big stuff that's out there has ONE master bedroom and treats the rest of the people like second class citizens (in convert beds).
Nosiree!!
My ideal camper, would be one with 2 master bedrooms, a set of bunk beds (three or four beds), a bathroom with a full sized elongated toilet (not one of those little .. "how the hell am I supposed to fit on that!"), and cooking equipment (sink, counter, stove) accessible on the OUTSIDE .. since we camp .. OUTSIDE ... Maybe have the fridges outside too. :) Shower unnecessary really. A/C that would bring the temp inside down to, oh say 75 degrees on a REALLY hot day, heat that would bring it up to, oh, say 70 degrees on a really cold day..
Oh that's a lot more than one change, huh?
One change to my Jayco? Going to make the hinged stove / sink thingy removable .. for more stowage space.. Maybe build a little light set of shelving..
Quote from: fallsriderThere's a lot of nifty ideas like that that we consumers would like to see. The problem is, I think, that not enough consumers would buy that product or spend the extra money for it, so they could never make it work economically.
InstaFreeze has made a pass-thrrough refrigerator for years. They were even used on certain Jayco models a while ago. Due to the compressor refrigerant design they only operate on AC, and DC with an inverter, but not propane.
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Quote from: pricerjSorry for the caps but I want to shout this...
MAKE THE STABILIZERS INTO LEVELERS!!!!
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One camping trip we had a gentleman next to us who had a beautiful new motor home. We watched as he was getting ready to pull away. He and his DW were in the cab and both front and rear stabs were down. Front wheels were off the ground. DD and I watched as he opened the door. We saw him touch a button on the side of his chair..the front supports lowered the front end down onto the ground...he touched another button and the supports folded up under the cab. Then he did the same with the rear supports.
Now THAT would be cool!
CC
Quote from: CC777Quote from: pricerjSorry for the caps but I want to shout this...
MAKE THE STABILIZERS INTO LEVELERS!!!!
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Now THAT would be cool!
CC
Who is going to be the first to mod their PopUp with these!
Or you can be fancy, and install a set of these!:p Don't forget to reinforce the trailer frame!
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Oh man that would be sooooo cool. The ones I described were those swing down stabs. Man was that fun to watch...especially since we were debating on whether we should tell the guy he was about to drive off with his stabs still down.
Should have seen our faces :yikes:
CC
I'd like Tom Raper to finish the darn thing and get it back to us.
Two payments so far. Three days of possesion of the camper. One big case of buyer's remorse.
Quote from: jeezyI'd like Tom Raper to finish the darn thing and get it back to us.
Two payments so far. Three days of possesion of the camper. One big case of buyer's remorse.
What is your estimated time of repair now? I recall you were hoping to go camping in early November.
Hopefully you will have it back soon and be able to get in a trip before the heavy bad weather sets in. We just spent Thanksgiving weekend camping in our Rockwood pop-up at General Butler State Park in Carrollton, KY, as their shower facilities are open year-round and the Two Rivers restaurant in the park resort lodge provides an alternative to cold-weather cooking; that park should be fairly close for you.
I have had mostly good experiences with Tom Raper's Richmond location but thankfully haven't had anything major done, as we bought new instead of used.
They've rebuilt the front wall of the storage box and replaced the floor board in the front corner. The delay is waiting for a new lid to the storage compartment. I find it hard to believe it is taking this long to get one.
The frustrating part has been from day one when we took it back in, almost all communications have been initiated by my wife and myself. Having the sense of customer service to update us once in awhile would have been nice. And when we do call, they sound like we're bothering them. We returned the camper on a Wednesday and it was almost a week before the sales manager told us what they were going to do about the problem. This was mid-October. And yes, we missed out on a group outing in early November.
The sad part is, the sales manager told us had they seen the damage, they never would have agreed to sell it on consignment in the first place. But at that point it was too late for them to take it back from us. I don't feel bad about missing the damage, as their service department missed it as well. Now we're stuck with it with no recourse but to allow them to take their time to repair it.
General Butler sounds like a nice option. It's not far from here at all. Having two kids three and under, we'll probably wait until spring, anyway.
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robpoe, hmmmm what a good idea. it is such a PITA to flip it over, put the stove in the footholes, lift the dinette, slip the hose through the hole, flip the switch, fiddle with sliding the neck down and getting the propane hose to click, flipping the switch, testing to see if it's properly connected BEFORE I put the dinette down and mess around with the cushions.
I have an 02 Jayco Qwest. I was wondering if I'd have the courage to just take the 1 lb propane stove. but I LOVE the feeling of having a real kitchen. but then what would I use the propane for? i always have elec for the a/c..haven't had it on propane.
if you removed the hinges, would you leave the sink/stove-hole part and the stove at home?
the dinette table was way too heavy, so i leave that in the garage and a friend made me a plywood platform.
Quote from: wernstriumphI would like to see a refrigerator that's accessable from both inside and outside the camper.
Quote from: fallsriderThere's a lot of nifty ideas like that that we consumers would like to see. The problem is, I think, that not enough consumers would buy that product or spend the extra money for it, so they could never make it work economically.
Been tried. "Instafreeze" made a 4 cubic foot 12v compressor fridge for RV's with a normal inside door and a flush, lockable outside door. Chalet offered them when we bought our trailer in late 2001.
Didn't catch on- Instafreeze was bought out by RV Products Company and apparently their product line faded away. The "Dual-Access" fridge was patented in 1999 as United States Patent 6220049.