How does this affect you? Do you feel added stress/anxiety when they announce these alerts? I feel like unless they can tell me of a more specific threat or time period then I ve just to go on and live my life. Will I be more cautious...most likely...but I won t be stopping what I need to do to continue on with my life. My children are living in a world I fortunately didn t experience when I was a kid. I keep any reports or news of these warnings away from them.
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bearbaitdo you know what dates this holiday is? I also heard the security alert was heightened because of this muslim holiday, but I haven t heard what dates this falls on??
We re Americans...our way of life will not be compromised!
CamperrooI m more concerned about my commute home in the current snowstorm than about an orange alert. In the last 17 months, about 3500 Americans have been killed by terrorists. In the same time period, 566,500 were killed by heart disease.
Which is more dangerous?
Austin (over 50,000 killed in auto accidents)
CamperrooJust another day in the neighborhood.....
AustinBoston---
CamperrooSorry Lee, but of those over 1/2 million people dying of heart disease 95 % don t even know they have it, so it s just like being hit by stray bullet, drunk driver, or an airplane, just a lot better chance.
Better most of us should worry about drunk drivers and icey sidewalks. As 99.9999% of us have a better chance of being somewhere there s one of those and getting killed than a terrrorist target.
The terrrorists want to create fear in a population, if you spend time worrying about it or being afraid; THEY WIN.
CamperrooIn todays world anything can happen. We need to use CAUTION, BE DON T BE AFRAID. My brother-in-law had just flew out of Dullas Airport 1 hour before the hijacked planes flew. ( Thank God he is still with us today). He worked at the Pentagon ( Left his job after this because of stress) This hit to close to home for all of us and more. We are just normal people living everyday lives. We no longer live in a world without fear. Terrorism isn t to be taken lightly. At least now the goverment is letting us in on part of whats going on.
bearbait
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Austin,
I sure hope your not comparing heart disease deaths to those deaths caused by terrorists....I hope to God I m reading your post all wrong! People with heart disease have a choice to take care of themselves if that s what your implying, someone sitting in a tower and a plane crashes into the side of it didnt have that choice!
Dead is dead. Nearly as many die from cancer. I m sure most of those had no choice in the matter. In 17 months, nearly four million Americans have died from all causes. Despite that, the vast majority of us are still alive! Three thousand of those dead were killed by terrorists. Don t worry so much about things that may be spectacular, but almost certanly won t get you. Spend the time and energy on the things that can get you. That doesn t mean fly in the face of danger, but please tell me what tangible thing can any of us do about terrorism? Nothing but worry. No thanks. Worry raises blood pressure, an indicator for heart disease...
Austin
CamperrooI have more important things to worry about then wether terrorists might (slim chance) target my area, and I won t let " fear" rule my life and make my choices for me.
CamperrooA famous American once said:
" So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself -- nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance." F.D.R.
So point blank I m on the advance in fear of nothing.
Giving Thanks to God for everyday because in God We Trust.
HAPPY CAMPING
Camperroo
QuoteGiving Thanks to God for everyday because in God We Trust.
AMEN TO THIS.
Camperroosee now, i think that is the basic point to be made. Of WHAT are people afraid of????????? of dying? all i got to say is, if that is what they are afraid of, they have lots bigger problems than that!!!!!!! for me, i know where i`m going, i know WHO i`m going to be with, me, i got NO problem dying.no fear of it, anyway. not in any big HURRY, mind you........[;)]
Camperroo---
CamperrooI work in a 30 story hotel.....since hotels have been mentioned as a possible target, we have gone on " high alert" or something like that. It s difficult, at best, to secure a convention hotel! The big thing they warn us is to be watchful of persons who look out of place. It s a changing world we live in---that s reality. I choose to NOT live in fear, but rather to embrace life and go from there.
Camperroo
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How does this affect you?
This morning, I noticed several unattended bags at a station that my train pulled though. I immediately called the MBTA police (I didn t have the Amtrak #...it s their station) and reported it.
The
Orange Level had an impact in my decision.
BTW...some people are STUPID when it comes to this stuff. Don t leave your bags unattended in a public place. They stick out like a sore thumb.
Austin
CamperrooI m a vendor, and I was working yesterday in a local Wal-Mart when a customer beside me was looking at an empty shelf. She said, " I guess everyone is taking them up on their advice." I asked her what she meant. She said it was recommended that people use duct tape to tape up all their vents, etc in their houses and the duct tape was out of stock. I laughed and told her I didn t think duct tape was gonna save me if there was a terrorist attack. Oops - I think she may have been there to buy duct tape for that reason too, because she smiled funny and walked off.
I can t say I m being any more cautious than usual right now, although possibly a bit more alert. I just don t really see what I can do against biological or chemical warfare other than trust in the Man Upstairs.
CamperrooThe duct tape and plastic sheeting is supposedly flying off the shelves around here. IF there were to be a biological/chemical attack, it s not going to help you, much. There are just way too many openings in a house to completely seal up. I for one WILL NOT live my life that way. I am going, and will continue, to go about my business as usual. If I see something like A-B did, yes I will report it.
Camperroo
QuoteThe duct tape and plastic sheeting is supposedly flying off the shelves around here.
I really can t believe they even suggested everyone do that. Unless they are just trying to keep everyone busy doing something, and let us know how serious they are. Are they just trying to scare everyone into getting on board with the war?
If someone lives in a older house (like us) the plastic over the windows would hardly stop anything. There are so many leaks in older houses there is no way to seal them. Unless they put a bag over the whole house, then don t turn on your furnace or anything else inside.
On the news here they showed the recomendation, then brought on experts telling everyone not to do it.
CamperrooMot of our camping stuff is in the basement, so that s about all we ve done to prepare. There s too much conflicting information out there, so we ve decided to watch. listen and wait.
CamperrooI too couldn t believe he said that about the plastic sheeting and duct tape. Kind of reminded me of the old tuck, duck, and cover safety videos from way back when we first had atomic and nuclear bombs. DW said a lot of people she works with are all starting to panic cause they heard now it s a 6 week supply of food on hand now. She s worried also. I told her if something happens...we re gonna hook up the PU and head to the lake.
rednekrubbrduck
QuoteI told her if something happens...we re gonna hook up the PU and head to the lake.
Sounds like a plan to me. What lake? Maybe we ll meet you there....
bikolee
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QuoteI told her if something happens...we re gonna hook up the PU and head to the lake.
Sounds like a plan to me. What lake? Maybe we ll meet you there....
Don t know..but according to my other post on the other thread...somewhere where Lori can dress like a " native gal" and serve me beer with lil umbrellaas in them (don t worry...I de return the favor). With all that s going on...I think we all need a big ole group hug.
rednekrubbrduck
QuoteI think we all need a big ole group hug.
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rednekrubbrduckThat hug made me feel better! I agree that we can t live in fear and I do try to keep the news away from the kids as much as possible. I feel bad that my kids can t have the same freedom that I had when I was a kid. I walked or rode my bike or took the bus everywhere. I m afraid to let them go more than a block away alone now. Maybe that s one of the things I like about camping the most. A chance to get away, granted you can t let your guard down but you can get away from crime & traffic; your kids can explore a little and have less chance of getting hit by a car while outside playing, etc.
I think I need to go camping!
iwantapopupI agree, maybe we should all just go camping...can t seal up our popups exactly...but we could have an " orange" themed rally!![:D]
rednekrubbrduckYou realize folks, that by changing the way you do things, living in fear, etc. is exactly what they want. Terrorism doesn t necessarily mean to attack and kill or harm. It s merely the act of terror. To make you afraid to live your life the way you want or are used to. That is what I believe is the root of all this against us. Thay are simply jealous that we have the freedoms that we have.
rednekrubbrduckExactly Bill, as long as everyone is running around getting stuff to baricade themselves into their homes, the terrorists are winning. I m not doing that stuff, cause honestly I m not too sure it would help much anyway, and also, if I m going to die in a terrorist attack, at least I want to die free, not a prisoner of fear in my own home.
rednekrubbrduckThis may be a silly question but... aren t the " vents" in ones house there for a purpose?.... like to afford ventilation...as in let out the old, potentially HARMFUL build up of noxious emisions from things such as furnaces and such (IOW carbon monoxide) and high levels of carbon dioxide and circulate in fresh air. I don t think that duct tape and plastic are going to do so much to keep out whatever " toxic/biological weapons" as it will keep in the stuff that seems, to me, to pose the greater threat. I wonder how many people may die suffocating from carbon monoxide poisoning inside their " safe houses" . Don t laugh... hundreds die each year and their house aren t sealed up.
Who started all this duct tape stuff? Marketers for Duct tape sales?
rednekrubbrduckSince camping season is out in the North East - the duct tape sales have dropped dramatically - thus - a smart, on his toes duct tape salesman thought up this clever idea.....he may also have his interest in the plastic sheeting division. I dunno....
I think we should organize a campin posse and find this guy - duct tape him to a tree until duck hunting season....wabbit season.....whatever...
Just a wee bit of humor folks.[:D]
rednekrubbrduck---
rednekrubbrduck
QuoteDW said a lot of people she works with are all starting to panic cause they heard now it s a 6 week supply of food on hand now.
Seems to me that says it all. This well be the way the terrorists utimately win. By causing mass panic, and letting us destroy ourselves.
rednekrubbrduckDon t see the harm in being prepared. Do see a great deal of harm in panicking.
I have my kids to look out for and would rather feel a little foolish for stocking up on a few things, than to maybe wish I had.
I still do all the things I ve done before. Just have added the precaution of keeping the gas tank filled and having extra food and water on hand. Plastic may not help. I really have no clue about stuff like that. But if something were to happen and it turns out that it could mitigate the problem. Maybe it s worth having on hand... besides I gotta paint the dining room this spring and will need drop cloths anyway.
Being prepared is not giving into fear and we can always use the food and water for camping next time we go, and the duct tape, too![;)]