RE: Short Rant!

[AustinBoston]

 mike4947

ORIGINAL:  mike4947
 The news group were founded on the principle that they would regulate themselves. A fine idea from an ivory tower where they started. Then the general population got involved. I only hope that if any aliens tap into our information systems don t use the newsgroups as the basis for forming they opinions of life on earth or we re toast.
 

 It s not the general population that is the problem.  The problem is anonymous remailers/reposters.  Because anonymous services prevent reporting abuse, they prevent disciplinary action towards abusers.  People who troll using a standard ISP account often find their ISP service yanked when more people complain than they ever knew were on the newsgroup.  A dedicated troll will set up an anonymous account, and can t be reported to anyone.
 
 It s a shame because I feel the newsgroup format is far better than any web-based forum.  It s the loss of control of the control of the content that has runied it.  It is possible to set up moderated newsgroups, but that takes a lot of time from a group of dedicated individuals to read every post and aprrove it before it is published.
 
 One other thing has had a detrimental effect on newsgroups, and that is the flooding of binary newsgroups.  Binary groups allow posting data files (sound, pictures, movies, etc.), not just text.  Something like 4% of newsgroups are binaries, but something like 96% of the volume is binaries.  Because of the way newsgroup data propagates, every ISP has to copy all of the new posts every few hours (at the least).  Because of the huge load the binaries create, more and more ISP s are just saying " that s it, no more newsgroups" .  Fewer and fewer are carrying them, which means changing ISP s for those who want them.  Those on the edge give up.
 
 Austin

[AustinBoston]

 Turn Key

ORIGINAL:  Turn Key
 AB: Guess they re everywhere.  Find it hard to believe that there is some one worse then Cass.
 

 A Google web search for " Mike Vandeman"  turns up about 1700 hits.
 
 A Google web search for " Mike Vandeman"  and " FAQ"  returns about 80 hits.
 
 There are some on rec.bicycles.* who have not only blocked Mike Vandeman s posts, but have set up routines to find people who respond to him and block them as well.
 
 I can not guarantee the purity of either of these links. Children keep out!
 
 Here is a link to a carefully worded FAQ that, while it doesn t mention his name, almost perfectly describes him.  It s done this way because of potential legal liability: [link=http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Trails/3398/Mr-ABC.html]MR ABC, AND WHY NOT TO RESPOND TO HIM![/link]
 
 Here is a poem about him: [link=http://www.sadlebred.com/ode.html]Ode to a Usenet Kook[/link]
 
 Austin

[Gone-Camping]

 Turn Key
Like many others, I too made my start at alt.rv.pop-up-trailers but moved away from it over a year ago. I ve been back a few times, but it has degraded so badly that most of the post there have nothing to do with Pop-up s or camping!

[Jeffrey]

 Turn Key
Someone should get me a rules handbook.
 
 It s hard to remember which site can be badmouthed at which site.
 
 And which site can be defended at which site.
 
 I keep mixing them up?[&:]

[birol]

 Turn Key
Jeffrey,
 
 Lets all live in peace and harmony There is only one site worth living in, you are there now !

[Jeffrey]

 Turn Key

Lets all live in peace and harmony

 
 Sorry Birol, I m just not a very good singer![]

[birol]

 Jeffrey
I am wondering, how he made a connection to singing ? somebody tell me [8D]

[Turn Key]

 Jeffrey
Don t know.  I can t sing either.[]

[NightOwl]

 Jeffrey
come on, guys--THINK!  harmony is commonly associated with music--singing is a kind of music (not always, though:  for example some of our so-called musical artistes of the day--ugh!)  And quite often, people who are singing strive for harmony.  (Just like we try to do here[])  (well, MOST of the time[: (] )

[GeneF]

 Jeffrey
Altrv was the first popup site that I found and it was a wealth of information with a lot of good info and some realy nice people.  It is sad to see what it is today.
 
 but the good part was, I found PUT from a post there. []

[birol]

 Jeffrey
Same here ....... if only I knew I would get addicted []

[Jeffrey]

 Jeffrey
Actually when Birol bestowed his great words of wisdom upon me....
 
 An old Coke commercial ran through my head.
 I can t remember the words very well, but I cant get the melody out of my head.
 
 You know the one ...... If you something the world a  something something something something in peace and harmony something , something.
 
 That One![]

[birol]

 Jeffrey

 

ORIGINAL:  Jeffrey
 
 Actually when Birol bestowed his great words of wisdom upon me....
 
 

 Darn, where have you been all my life, if you had maybe mentioned that I can utter [: (] greats words of wisdom  to my old director at Nortel maybe he would not let me go [8D]
 

[rednekrubbrduck]

 Jeffrey
I dated a gal named Harmony once..and she made me sing.  [8D]  (sry..couldn t resist...just be glad I didn t include the part of the joke that involve the woord " peace" )