Tire Problems HEEEEELP

[ronerjones]

OK I'm really in a pickle here. A few weeks ago I did the right thing and replaced the tires even though they were not terrible I wanted to be safe not sorry. I am BIG TIME sorry right now. One of my new tires blew out with less than 50 miles on it. $70.00 to have someone help me change it on the side of the highway. Tire place replaced it no charge. I drove down today to have him put the new tire on guess what the other new tire (approximately 300 miles on it) when I got there had what looked like an over sized tennis ball coming out the side wall. I changed the tires to have a comfort feeling, wow now I do not know. I guess my choices are very limited as I need a 185 - 80 - 13 with a D rating. My camper is the Coleman Utah the tires are rated for 1,660lbs each. Trailer GVWR 3,450 - GAWR 3,050 - Tongue Rating 400 - UVW 2,485 - UAW 2,370

I do not believe that I have the trailer over weight as we have been camping in it for the past 2 years with no problems. The issues started with the new tires. The only other difference is the trailer tires were inflated with Nitro could there be any issues with a nitro fill at the higher pressure levels. Also if anyone knows of a good place to purchase the tires I would consider ordering and having them shipped. Also a tire brand that I might be able to look for. It is evidently not a popular size with a very high rating, I have not found much in choices.

And before anyone wants to hang the tire shop, I will add they are being very helpful and fully supportive, my family has been buying tires from this place for 20+ years.

[flyfisherman]

I doubt if there's a tire manufacturer ANYWHERE that has not had product problems of one kind or another at some time. What's real important are THEY going to stand behind their product?

See if this reference is of any help ~



http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Carlisle/trailer/carlisle_usa_trail.htm


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http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Duro/Trailer/duro_trailer_tires_ST.htm

[ronerjones]

Thanks I am going to call them tomorrow it looks like they only have the Duro in the size that I need. I think that is what I am having trouble with. I am hoping that I just got stuck with a bad batch and the next ones will be ok.

[flyfisherman]

Thanks I am going to call them tomorrow it looks like they only have the Duro in the size that I need. I think that is what I am having trouble with. I am hoping that I just got stuck with a bad batch and the next ones will be ok.

The Carlisle has that size, too. This will show the load ratings a little more clear.


http://www.carlisletire.com/products/trailer/sport_trail_lt/index.html

[OC Campers]

We put 2 Carlisle tires on our Westlake and both tires blew out at different times (less than 500 miles on the tires).  When we went to Anericas Tire and asked for replacements, they fave us a different brand.

Jacqui

[Dray]

You said in your post the tire size is not popular.  Think about this.  If they're not popular they probably don't sell very many, which means they sit on the shelf for who knows how long.  Check the manufacture date, (When the tire was built).  If you don't know how check my post about how to check.  If you can't figure out how old they are based on the code just ask your tire guy.  If the tires were more than 6 years old you probably shouldn't have been sold those tires.  I'll bet your tires, while sold as "new" were actually quite old.

http://www.arveeclub.com/showthread.php?t=67636

P.S.  Check the manufacture date on the new tires your getting too.

[CajunCamper]

You said in your post the tire size is not popular.  Think about this.  If they're not popular they probably don't sell very many, which means they sit on the shelf for who knows how long.  Check the manufacture date, (When the tire was built).  If you don't know how check my post about how to check.  If you can't figure out how old they are based on the code just ask your tire guy.  If the tires were more than 6 years old you probably shouldn't have been sold those tires.  I'll bet your tires, while sold as "new" were actually quite old.

http://www.arveeclub.com/showthread.php?t=67636

P.S.  Check the manufacture date on the new tires your getting too.

I agree. A tire can dry rot on the shelf and you really can't see the defect.

[cjpoppin]

Thanks I am going to call them tomorrow it looks like they only have the Duro in the size that I need. I think that is what I am having trouble with. I am hoping that I just got stuck with a bad batch and the next ones will be ok.

Not a tire expert but after having to replace the tires on our new TT after only 3000 miles on them (Duro's) I'd say stay away from this brand........Good luck with the new ones I'm sorry this happen to you......

[mrmaintenance]

You also have to be careful from all the manufacturers as to WHERE the tire is made. Most of them have tires that are made in the US. They will have the "same" tire also made someplace overseas for a little cheaper, but the quality stinks and you have the blowouts.

[kampingkoge]

I have been looking at new tires as well.  Discount tire which I use all the time for vehicle tires recommends going with a radial tire as a replacement.  Have there been just as many issues with radials, I assume most pups have bias ply tires from the factory.

Here is just a few of the links if you search the web ...

http://www.michelinag.com/agx/en-US/products/advantages/bias_radial/bias_radial.jsp

http://blog.easternmarine.com/trailer-tires-bias-ply-vs-radial/

There are a number of benefits to the Radial design for the trailer operator.
1) Softer, smoother, quieter ride
2) Improved fuel economy
3) Flat, wider footprint for better tire wear
4) Runs cooler than a bias ply, minimizing risk of a blowout on the highway
5) Longer tire life
6) Better tracking - Improved sway control

The main benefit for the Bias-Ply design is that the sidewall is more rugged and bruise resistant, plus Bias-Ply tires are usually less expensive. This could be an important consideration in a trailer application because many trailers are used infrequently, minimizing some of the Radial

[ronerjones]

Got a new set today, my tire guy replaced both with another manufacturers tire. The side wall is considerably thicker than the original. When the camper sat still the other tires actually looked as if they needed more air. The ride home was noticeably smoother. Camping in 2 weeks will let everyone know if these hold up. Thanks for all the comments the past couple weeks has been a bit trying with these tires.

[haroldPE]

Glad to hear you have a new set.  Don't worry about Duro's, as they are fine tires.  Many more complaints heard with Carlisles.

[bcsjbaylor]

I'm not a genius when it comes to tires, and maybe someone else here can offer some insight.  I have a 1999 Coleman Bayside (bought new) that goes through tires like mad.  I've tried the Duro and the Carlisle tires.  When I tried to figure out what was going on here, I noted that the LRD tires are rated for 1660# each.  Multiply by 2 and you get 3320 total weight.  The GVRW of the trailer is 3250 lbs.

Now I know that some of the weight is on the hitch (one would like to think 325#, but these trailers are heavy in the rear, so it's not anywhere near the 10% trailer weight it's supposed to be).  My point being that I think the weight of the trailer is way too close to the load rating of the tires.  And if you load a little heavy in the rear, or you're just plain overweight, the tires may well be overloaded.

This year, I plan on flipping the axle and putting on some 205/75R14 LRC (1760#) or maybe even 215/75R14 LRC (1870#) tires depending on what will comfortably fit in the wheel wells after the axle is flipped.

And maybe, just maybe, I can go on a trip without carrying 3 spare tires!