White Gas vs. Propane

[Gunrunner]

I have an old Bethany 560...and it of course has the original Majic 2 burner propane....and I like biscuits with my breakfast.....so when I was still a tent camper using the normal 2-burner Coleman on white gas I bought a Coleman
Folding Camp oven...sits over the burner and bakes wonderful biscuits and brownies....
 So now I have a popup...and the propane stove in the PUP will NOT get the
Folding Oven up to baking temperature!   There is a thermometer in the door so I KNOW how hot it has to get to bake ....350 degrees.  SO I still have to carry that 40 yr old white gas stove to bake my biscuits on.   Obvious answer::: White Gas burns Hotter.      Larry

[AustinBoston]

The only downfall to using one now is the unbelievable price of Coleman fuel at $8.88 a gallon at the local Walmart.  but when you breakdown the amount of propane versus the amount of Coleman fuel used for the same amount of time and usage,  the Coleman fuel appliances are still more  economical.

If Coleman fuel is cheaper to operate than propane at those prices, you must be pricing propane in gold plated cylinders.  I buy propane at a little over $4 a gallon, and there is NO WAY there is twice as much energy per gallon in gasoline.

I don't know how they can get away with $8.88 a gallon; most white gas powered devices today can use unleaded regular at well under half that price, so charging $8.88 a gallon is simply theft.

Austin

[chip]

I don't know how they can get away with $8.88 a gallon; most white gas powered devices today can use unleaded regular at well under half that price, so charging $8.88 a gallon is simply theft.

Austin

I suspect that it's a matter of supply and demand--since there are more appliances out there that burn the unleaded, there are fewer that burn the "coleman" fuel in operation.  Tried to buy a stove or lantern that uses strictly white gas lately?

But there are a few folks that have lanterns or stoves that use the white gas, and will use is until it's cost effective to replace them with multi-fuel  or propane devices.

[Old Goat]

If Coleman fuel is cheaper to operate than propane at those prices, you must be pricing propane in gold plated cylinders.  I buy propane at a little over $4 a gallon, and there is NO WAY there is twice as much energy per gallon in gasoline.

I don't know how they can get away with $8.88 a gallon; most white gas powered devices today can use unleaded regular at well under half that price, so charging $8.88 a gallon is simply theft.

Austin

Bougtht any paint thinner[mineral spirits] lately? It's $9.99 a gal at Lowes now. Three years ago it was $1.97 a gal. I can remember when it was .10 cents a gal at the local hardware..Highway robbery? You betcha...at least Jesse James had a horse and a gun...

[AustinBoston]

Bougtht any paint thinner[mineral spirits] lately? It's $9.99 a gal at Lowes now. Three years ago it was $1.97 a gal. I can remember when it was .10 cents a gal at the local hardware..Highway robbery? You betcha...at least Jesse James had a horse and a gun...

Brace yourselves, it's coming already...

Austin

[flyfisherman]

If Coleman fuel is cheaper to operate than propane at those prices, you must be pricing propane in gold plated cylinders.  I buy propane at a little over $4 a gallon, and there is NO WAY there is twice as much energy per gallon in gasoline.


Austin

Of course there are two different animals we're talking here in the "propane" department.
I refill the camper's 20 lb tank at our local propane dealer and he has a special deal for customers who he happens to service at their homes (in this case ...me), and it cost me $12.25 - obviously I have to take the tank there to be refilled. But that figures out to be about $2.60/gal for me.
On the other hand, if you were to go over to the friendly Wally-Mart store and buy their store brand 16oz disposable L/P tanks, that would set you back five bucks for a two pack (the way it comes). Figuring that way, a gallon of the store bought L/P, it would be $10.00 and would make the Coleman fuel a tad cheaper.

Obviously, it don't take a mathematical mental giant to figure out what way to go in the propane department!




Fly

[Old Goat]

I still refill the 16 oz. propane tanks for our BBQ and Mr.Buddy heater as I have done for some years for a propane cost of about .50 cents per tank...

[flyfisherman]

I still refill the 16 oz. propane tanks for our BBQ and Mr.Buddy heater as I have done for some years for a propane cost of about .50 cents per tank...

Bill ~ I remember the discussions (?) we use to have on this board many years ago about refilling those 16 oz canisters. I remember the talk about there being a hazard about the valves in the little tanks, that they could leak. And there was the initial cost of the apparatus for refilling them.  How has all this worked out for you?
As the result of those talks I went the little 5/gal refillable propane tank  (use w/8' connecting hose) and use that for the outdoor Coleman cook stove ~ usually set-up at the C/G picnic table. Here it cost me $4.50 to refill that little tank ... resulting in a higher using cost compared to the special pricing for the twenty pound-ers. However, still much less than buying the disposable 16 oz tanks at Wal-Mart. Should point out, too, that the little 5 pound-er tank stows away in a nest little place when traveling. And, for cooking use only, the small tank will usually last a season.

[Old Goat]

Dale aka Fly,

I have never had a problem with refilling the 1 lb. tanks or any leaking valves. Before refilling, I make sure the valve is clean and if there is any rust on it, the tank gets replaced. The fitting for refilling these tanks is about $15 I think. I got mine still like new for $2.00 at a flea market. Guy selling it did'nt know what it was. Refilling is easy and quite safe if you follow a few simple rules and there is no law against transporting the refilled tanks across state lines if they are for your own use and not for resale..