RE: Coleman Drip Coffeemaker vs. Coleman outside stove

Ab Diver · Sep 28, 2003, 07:05 PM

Hi all. Just getting back into the swing of things after fighting an 18-day battle against a virus. The bug may have won the battle, but I won the war. [

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One of the questions that got put aside whilst I was in bug-battle mode was about our new Coleman drip coffeemaker. You know the one I mean: that much lauded, highly anticipated, universally applauded drip coffeemaker that " Works with any Coleman Two and Three burner stove" . Got one for a Father s Day present (Whoopee!). Took it to the West Coast " Gold Rush Rally" , but never dragged it out of it s storage compartment cuz we had full hookups.

Thought I d try it out the last day we were there, and---wonder of wonders--- the gosh-darned %$#& thing won t fit on the outside High Pressure (HP) stove on our *Coleman* trailer! Seems the single grill for each of the two burners is too big for the coffeemaker to fit over it. The coffeemaker sits with one side resting on the grate, and the other side resting on the stovetop surface. Tried rotating the grate for a better fit, but that wouldn t help either. Anyway you go about it, the coffeemake sits on an angle and the coffee would run off the side instead of into the glass container--- Not good. Now, the coffeemaker says not to use it with any stove higher than 15,000 btu, but just how high is the Coleman HP Outside Stove rated

Heck, my " super-duper-whiz-bang Camp Chef" stove is only rated at 30,000 btu per burner, and that thing is exponentially hotter than that itty-bitty " Coleman High Pressure Outside Stove" that came with our trailer. I looked, but couldn t find a btu rating anywhere on the Coleman HP stove.

The *only* reason we bought the %$#& thing was so I could make coffee outside the trailer in the morning without disturbing the rest of the family. We usually dry camp, and have a well-used 2-cup percolator that gets the job done just fine on the outside HP stove. But if I have to drag along another *Coleman* camp stove just to use their *Coleman* drip coffeemaker, or am forced to only use it on our trailer s *inside* Low Pressure (LP) stove (and wake the family up doing so), that drip coffeemaker is going back to the store it came from faster than my " Camp Chef" stove can boil water. Sure, I could take this as a deschnitzification challenge and make a riser block so the coffeemaker clears the HP stove grill, but that is beside the point.

Anybody out there have a similar problem with their Coleman stovetop Automatic Drip Coffeemaker working on their Coleman trailers? Or could the burner grates on my 98 Bayside HP outside stove be larger than those on newer trailers?

kathybrj · Jul 11, 2003, 09:35 AM

Ab DiverWe use ours on our outside stove. I just take the black metal burner grate off and it works great.

I love the Coleman coffee maker. We set it up the night before, light the burner in the morning and that s it. [

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Tim5055 · Jul 11, 2003, 09:52 AM

Ab DiverFirst of all, the advertising is correct - it will fit on a Coleman stove. The fact is the stove on your Coleman camper is not a Coleman stove.

THe Coffee maker is marketed by the Coleman company which itself is a division of Sunbeam. Another division of Sunbeam is Mr. Coffee, so I assume that is who makes the Coffee maker.

I found that t works well by just removing the grate and placing the Coffee maker over the center of the burner flame. In this position it sits level and while a little slower than an electric - still is much better than coffee bags!

Ab Diver · Jul 11, 2003, 10:44 AM

Ab DiverKathy and Tim, thanks for the No-Brainer about removing the grate. That should have occurred to me right off the bat. Guess that bug was setting in a day earlier than I thought.

But, Tim, while I agree with you about the ownership of the *Coleman* name, and who makes and distributes what products, Coleman (by Fleetwood) knows darn well that the name *Coleman* has a reputation for quality outdoor sporting goods. And the same goes for the *Coleman* company that makes the lanterns, coolers, water bottles, stoves, canoes, and other *Coleman* products shown in the " Coleman Trailer (by Fleetwood)" brochures. They are tying their products together with the Coleman trailers as part of the whole camping experience (or else Fleetwood has been using Coleman s products in their brochures without Coleman s permission [

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If I were to do a survey of several thousand campers at campgrounds across America, I d be very surprised if more than 5% of them knew the two companies were not related. (Ok, so that s a SWAG on my part. But hey, it s my survey. [

] ) Saying the Coleman Drip Coffeemaker will fit on a Coleman Two or Three burner stove, *without* excluding the stoves on a Coleman trailer, implies their product *will* work on a Coleman trailer stove (and without having to remove a grill placed there for safety). Methinks this is misleading advertising, but I m not a lawyer.

Just a customer. Coleman, are you listening?

mike4947 · Jul 11, 2003, 02:22 PM

Ab DiverDave, last time I checked, several years ago, Coleman liscensed their name to over 50 companies.
The Disney of camping equipment. Like Disney I couldn t really find anything anymore actually made by the licsencing company.

And as far as it not fitting your stove It does; you just have to remove the grill.
IMHO this isn t an issue about misleading advertising, it s a simple D ooh one; you know, a very minor SPUT.

Goldbender · Jul 11, 2003, 07:55 PM

Ab DiverMaybe you should throw out your coleman trailer instead and buy a new pop up that fits your coffee maker. Well I guess that really would be unpractical, wouldn t it. Oh well just a thought. I agree that you should just return that sucker. I remember when I first got my trailer, I spend a lot of time figuring out would I should get and what else I could pack in there and bring along.

Now I spend my time figuring out what to take out of the trailer and what to leave at home. I was allready to buy one of those coffee makers when I realized that my melita drip maker is 4 times smaller and 50 times lighter. And is easier to clean up. Its not always about getting whats the latest and greatest. My trailer is heavy enought and I am getting rather tired off setting up all the junk I bring along.

kathybrj · Jul 11, 2003, 08:59 PM

Goldbender

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Maybe you should throw out your coleman trailer instead and buy a new pop up that fits your coffee maker. Well I guess that really would be unpractical, wouldn t it. Oh well just a thought. I agree that you should just return that sucker. I remember when I first got my trailer, I spend a lot of time figuring out would I should get and what else I could pack in there and bring along.

Now I spend my time figuring out what to take out of the trailer and what to leave at home. I was allready to buy one of those coffee makers when I realized that my melita drip maker is 4 times smaller and 50 times lighter. And is easier to clean up. Its not always about getting whats the latest and greatest. My trailer is heavy enought and I am getting rather tired off setting up all the junk I bring along.

What do you use when you dry camp? Or does the solar take care of that?

Before the Coleman Coffee maker, I carried both an electric and a perk pot. Now I only have to carry one maker. So, for us, it wasn t a " latest or greatest" thing- it was practicality. Less stuff is...well, less stuff.

wahoonc · Jul 11, 2003, 09:14 PM

kathybrj

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Before the Coleman Coffee maker, I carried both an electric and a perk pot. Now I only have to carry one maker. So, for us, it wasn t a " latest or greatest" thing- it was practicality. Less stuff is...well, less stuff.

Kathy,
That Coleman coffemaker is bigger than my Drip and Percolator put together, [

]probably weighs more too[&:]

Aaron[

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kathybrj · Jul 11, 2003, 09:37 PM

wahoonc

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Kathy,
That Coleman coffemaker is bigger than my Drip and Percolator put together, []probably weighs more too[&:]

Aaron[]

Not the case here, Aaron. The 10 cup drip maker that DH HAD to have (he drinks 3/4 of it himself just for breakfast), plus that yucky old perk pot were a real pain to store. I keep the Coleman maker in it s box and it stores nicely in the lower galley cabinet.

I dunno- me thinks some folks just don t like change!! [8D][8D] To each their own! That s why we all have a different camping style! [

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Jeffrey · Jul 11, 2003, 10:10 PM

Ab DiverMaybe this kind?...............

http://www.melitta.com/cgi-bin/sgin0101.exe?UID=2003071122034671&T1=64+0616

I use one of these in my office, and keep thinking I should out one in the PU.
But I haven t done it yet.[&:] I will just bring the top and use a thermos for the bottom. Works with hookups or without and the top hardly weighs anything.

So far I just use bags or instant, nobody else drinks coffee in our family.

MtnCamper · Jul 11, 2003, 10:43 PM

Ab DiverJeff, Can you put the pot from that Mellita back on the burner to reheat? I use a 1 cup Mellita, but it takes a long time to fill my thermos. This " funnel" looks bigger. But I hate to buy one just for the funnel.

Goldbender · Jul 12, 2003, 12:25 AM

kathybrjThe solar does not mk coffe. It does charge up my batteries to full every day after a night of heavy use , so that I am ready to go the next night without any worry of killing my battery bank.

When I dry camp ( or even when I have full hook ups ) I use my melita coffee cone and poor hot water right off the stove into the filter going into a carafe that will stay hot all mourning. Of course, I only use fresh ground beans that were ground at home just before we leave.

kathybrj · Jul 12, 2003, 06:38 AM

Ab DiverWe re guilty of taking a coffee bean grinder with us, although we only use it when we have hook ups. It s a small one- the large one stays at home.

DH is a coffee snob to say the least. Me-I do like my grey goose...

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