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Started by MommaMia, Sep 30, 2003, 05:17 PM

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wiininkwe

 birolI m still in the dark about something.   It s the old " clique"  label.   There s always a few people who object to others who seem to be in a  clique , but I always thought that anytime you get a group of people together there will always be some who get along better with some, and others who get along better with others.   Which means that they naturally evolve into small groups of close friends within a large group of acquaintances.   What is wrong with that?   Isn t that normal?  If you are a person who has some friends, aren t you a  clique ?  And then why should you be upset  and complain if I have a group of close friends?   This board has developed several groups of people who have grown very close.  And we also have the regional PU clubs.  Are we suppose to ban all these friendships and organizations because they seem to be  cliquish ?    (BTW, I asked this question once before when someone got all churned up about this issue and no one ever had a reply.)   I think we have a great balance here, of people who will respond to everyone, whether or not they are within your  inner circle   but who have been fortunate enough to make some close lifetime friendships.   I love the fact that we can be as serious as can be here, or  fluffy  if we want to.  I love reading Birol s posts, and also am very interested in the most technical of posts.  When I see Birol and Angelsmom posting back and forth directly to each other several times within a thread am I suppose to criticize that as a clique?  I don t think so.  I think that for me it s important to see that Birol and Angelsmom can have fun with each other.   If NightOwl and I have some personal things that we can say to one another, are we to be thought as  eliteists  or something?  Heck no, we have just spent lots of time together and know a lot about each other.  If I call Topcat  little brother , and he calls me  Sis  are others suppose to feel left out?   NO, it just reflects that we have discovered a  lot of things in common and feel close.   So, excuse me, I will continue to verbally hug my close friends, and continue to smile and wave and laugh with my acquaintances, because I feel that my circle of close friends will grow as I get to know you, and you me, and too bad if someone else doesn t want to play with us.
 T
 [;)]

angelsmom10

 birolOK -- here s something to calm everyone down
 
 DEFINITION
 clique - noun:   an exclusive circle of people with a common purpose
 
 So with this being said, everyone here is in the " clique"  
 
 Now within this clique, we have smaller cliques as Toni posted.  Not everyone will always get along with everyone else.  Even from time to time, you have words with your " best friend"

B-flat

 birolSo, are you saying there is a " sub-clique?"   Yep, I knew I was in some kind of clique but some people wanted to call it a cult.[8D]  wii is right, there are some who have come to know each other, even if only through the net[:o] (you re gonna camp with people you only know from the net?![:o] )  Others have come to know each other through real camping at rallies or in group camping.  We have a wonderful exchange here and seeing the comaraderie is wonderful.[:)][:)][:)]

angelsmom10

 B-flat
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  B-flat
 
 So, are you saying there is a " sub-clique?"   Yep, I knew I was in some kind of clique but some people wanted to call it a cult.[8D]  wii is right, there are some who have come to know each other, even if only through the net[:o] (you re gonna camp with people you only know from the net?![:o] )  Others have come to know each other through real camping at rallies or in group camping.  We have a wonderful exchange here and seeing the comaraderie is wonderful.[:)][:)][:)]
 
SHHHHHHHHHH - don t tell DD that we camp with people we meet over the internet.  She wants to meet someone she met over the internet and we can t convince her that you really don t know who you ll meet.
 
 She ll have to come with us next year for the Eastern Rally so she can see how you can really meet some strange people over the internet[;)]

birol

 angelsmom10
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  angelsmom10
 
 
 
 She ll have to come with us next year for the Eastern Rally so she can see how you can really meet some strange people over the internet[;)]
 

 People like me ? Your DD would go, eeeewwww, what a weirdo man ........
 
 But you and me would sip our ice teas and enjoy life [;)]

angelsmom10

 birol
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  birol
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  angelsmom10
 
 She ll have to come with us next year for the Eastern Rally so she can see how you can really meet some strange people over the internet[;)]
 

 People like me ? Your DD would go, eeeewwww, what a weirdo man ........
 
 But you and me would sip our ice teas and enjoy life [;)]
 
AND watch our BP s go down with all that relaxing[:)][:)][:)][:)]
 

MommaMia

 whippetwrun
QuoteCindy & Shirley, can I be in, too? Even though I haven t been around since mid summer? please, please, pretty pulleeaazzzz.  LOL

 
 Sure!!! Come on lady!!!  Now you are part of the IN crowd!  [:D]

MommaMia

 angelsmom10
QuoteHEY - I want in also  
 
 
 _____________________________

 I just read down...
 
 Welcome, welcome, welcome!
 
 

B-flat

 birolI think we are already the " In crowd." [:)][:)][:)]

MommaMia

 birolSeriously though....
 
 I think Toni and Nancy are both right.
 
 Growing up, in school, I always felt a little out of place.  Quiet and small, never wanting to make waves, I always watched the in crowd from afar, wishing I could be part of their little group.  But at the same time, I saw how others in different little cliques would view the most " in"  group and heard the snide comments and backtalking about that " in"  group and it made me really consider whether being in that crowd was really what I wanted.  Did I want others to talk about me the way I heard those people being talked about?!?!  hmmmm
 
 On the other hand...
 
 Every day I had early dismissal so I could head over to the ballet company I was traing with to become a professional ballerina.  When I got there, the public school world disappeared and I d spend the next 5-7 hours every day with my own sort of clique.  Every once in a while, a friend from school would be invited to come spend some time at the studios.  When they got there, I could see that they felt so removed from the rest of us and would watch us dancers  the same way I watched that " in"  crowd at school.  
 
 
 I don t really think of this place here... PUT... as being cliquish.  I see it as a big campfire with a large group of people that have all come together with a common interest. Camping.  But as you have probably seen when standing around a campfire in the evening, enjoying a cold one and laughing with friends that people tend to gather in little clusters, sharing stories and interest other than camping.  Even though you may have spent most of the evening chatting with only a couple of people, you have shared that evening with all in attendance.  Allowing others to float in and out of your conversation, and even " intruding"  on others mini  fireside forums depending on the topics of conversation and your interest in such.
 
 No matter what kind of gathering it is there are always people who feel a little closer to each other, a little more chummy.  Heck, I even see it every day at the bus stop, waiting to pick up my girls after school.  I usually talk to a certain couple of moms, but nothing keeps me or them from piping in on a convo with some of the others.  And nobody thinks twice if I do pipe in.  No funny looks, no raised eyebrows.  Hard to believe... but maybe it s just because it s the beginning of the school year.
 
 But nothing beats this group we have here... I guess, yes...by defintion, we are all part of a clique, just by posting here.  Even if you have only posted one single time... you are IN!  This is the best bunch of people I have ever spent time with.  Sure there are a few sparks here and there but why shouldn t there be?  It keeps things interesting.  Dull people would only bring dullness to the table.  As of yet, I ve seen nothing dull served here!  
 
 If anyone coming here for the first time sees PUT as being cliquish, well I see that as a good thing!!  Around here, clique has another definition.... FAMILY!!!
 
 

MommaMia

 birol
QuoteBut you and me would sip our ice teas and enjoy life

 Iced tea?!?!??   Forget tea, try BEER!  Stout, to be move specific!

wiininkwe

 birolYeah!!!    What you all said!!!!!
 T
 [;)]

birol

 MommaMia
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  MommaMia
 
 
QuoteBut you and me would sip our ice teas and enjoy life

 Iced tea?!?!??   Forget tea, try BEER!  Stout, to be move specific!
 
I think I could have" some"  beer .....light ...... half a can .......[&:]

MommaMia

 birolI ll hold the can for you since those rubberry little sissy arms or yours aren t strong enough![;)]

birol

 MommaMia
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  MommaMia
 
 I ll hold the can for you since those rubberry little sissy arms or yours aren t strong enough![;)]
 
Hey, I have thick arms with big hands attached to them ! Just that don t have much muscles around the bones ! [8D]