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Started by jstubbert, Jan 03, 2004, 04:03 PM

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jstubbert

I have an 1990 Coleman Williamsburg. I have been toying with the idea of adding an outside stove with the shelf that comes on newer models. I really like the convenience of the shelf and being able to hook into the existing lp system without having to drape a lp hose across the campsite.

Has anyone else tried this? Any pictures?

Jeff Stubbert

Tim5055

You will need to add a second LP Gas regulator also.  If you look at the bottom photo on this page you can see the dual regulators between the tanks.

The hose will go from the tank to the High Pressure regulator.  The HP regulator will supply the outside stove.  The HP regulator connects to the low pressure regulator to supply the inside stove, HWH and refrigerator.

Take a look underneith to see if you have a route from the A frame to the location you want to mount the stove to run the copper pipe.

It's a great idea, we use the outside stove a lot more then the inside one.  Not only is it hotter but it helps keep odors out of the pop up.

2manytoyz

Make sure you get a HIGH pressure outside stove, as offered on the newer models.  Our camper is a 95, and this model came with LOW pressure stove only.  It works "okay" indoors, but is completely useless outside with any hint of a breeze.  Even with dead air, it's so slow to heat water that I no longer bother with it.  I now use a small 2 burner portable Coleman stove (P/N 5430B700G) that uses the disposable propane bottles.  It has two 10,000 BTU burners  It will boil water in a fraction of the time and doesn't care if the wind is blowing or not.  I was surprised I didn't have a picture of it on my website.  However, the one in this picture is very similar: http://2manytoyz.com/camp/camp2/outfitterkitchen.jpg   Folds up to 14.75" x 23.25" x 5.5".  This will also work directly from a full sized propane bottle with an optional hose.

Keep in mind that your older camper, like mine, may only be plumbed with low pressure gas.  You may not have the option, without modifications like Tim's setup, to use a high pressure stove with the supplied outside jack.

There's nothing like the frustation of trying to boil a pot of water to cook some freshly catched lobster, only to wait half an hour and still not hot enough.  That was the last straw for me.  Fortunately, I had bought the portable stove too.  Success!  http://2manytoyz.com/camp/lksp/lobster.jpg

Good luck!

Kelly

Quote from: 2manytoyzKeep in mind that your older camper, like mine, may only be plumbed with low pressure gas.  You may not have the option, without modifications like Tim's setup, to use a high pressure stove with the supplied outside jack.

There's nothing like the frustation of trying to boil a pot of water to cook some freshly catched lobster, only to wait half an hour and still not hot enough.  That was the last straw for me.  Fortunately, I had bought the portable stove too.  Success!  http://2manytoyz.com/camp/lksp/lobster.jpg

Good luck!

I looked into doing this for my trailer too.  It was too much work to be worth it.  The PU was only set up for low pressure and I didn't want to mess with mods.

I bought the Coleman Guide Series 3-burner stove.  It runs off a 20 lb. propane tank which I keep in a milk crate while we travel.  When I set up camp I put the stove on a small table (Sam's for about $20) and put the tank under the table.  The table goes just outside the trailer door.  It works really well for us.  Best part ~ that stove can boil a pot of water in no time!  Now if I could only find some fresh lobster in MN!  ;)

MtnCamper

Quote from: Kelly Now if I could only find some fresh lobster in MN!  ;)
Kelly, You could use Walleye, No wait...... Boiled Walleye, Wouldn't that be Lutefisk?

Kelly

Quote from: MtnCamperKelly, You could use Walleye, No wait...... Boiled Walleye, Wouldn't that be Lutefisk?

No, Gary ~ that would just be gross!

MtnCamper

Quote from: KellyNo, Gary ~ that would just be gross!
No, That's what Lutefisk is,  a whitefish, cured in Lye (IIRC), washed and then baked, (not boiled), It's served with melted butter and Lefse.

2manytoyz

Boiled fish, Yuk!

Okay, now I must torture you with more fine camping cuisine...

BBQ Chicken:
http://2manytoyz.com/camp/lksp2/DSCN2660s.jpg

Steak, homemade onion rings, home style pototoes:
http://2manytoyz.com/camp/lksp2/DSCN0316s.jpg
Look at the people in the Class A rig behind us.  They were begging to join us, but finally decided to go out to eat.  Told them we'd cook whatever they brought.  Fancy rig, yes, good food no.  Who had more fun, eh?

Bananas Foster:
http://2manytoyz.com/camp/lksp2/DSCN0326s.jpg

Smoked chicken:
http://2manytoyz.com/camp/lksp2/DSCN2747s.jpg

Fresh crab claw:
http://2manytoyz.com/camp/lksp2/DSCN0307s.jpg

Fresh escargot:
http://2manytoyz.com/camp/lksp2/DSCN2709s.jpg
Maybe not!

This is from ONE camping trip.  I didn't bother to take picture of the fresh fish we speared or the gryo sandwiches.  Our friend considers himself as a budding chef, much to the delight of his wife and us.  Can't wait 'til we camp with THEM again.

From this, you can see we used a variety of cooking equipment.  Hey, I'm back on topic!  Just more options.

 :W

Kelly

Quote from: MtnCamperNo, That's what Lutefisk is,  a whitefish, cured in Lye (IIRC), washed and then baked, (not boiled), It's served with melted butter and Lefse.

LOL ~ You remember correctly!  I just don't have the stomach for that Scandihoovian delicacy!!

K-man

2many - was that smoked chicken or smoked cook :D

griffsmom

2MTZ,  

 
Looking at the steak/onion ring picture, who thought it would be a good idea to give that guy a big, sharp knife? :eek: ;) :D

jaycocamprs

I saw a man in a campground who had mounted a 3-burner Coleman propane camp stove to his Sea Pine. He had put some of the channel for the factory stove on the back and had made a brace to support the front. At the gas bottle he had a "T" with a long hose running under the camper going back to the stove. This left the entire factory propane system intact, and if needed the in/out low pressure stove could still be used.



Quote from: jstubbertI have an 1990 Coleman Williamsburg. I have been toying with the idea of adding an outside stove with the shelf that comes on newer models. I really like the convenience of the shelf and being able to hook into the existing lp system without having to drape a lp hose across the campsite.

Has anyone else tried this? Any pictures?

Jeff Stubbert

2manytoyz

Quote from: griffsmom2MTZ,  

 
Looking at the steak/onion ring picture, who thought it would be a good idea to give that guy a big, sharp knife? :eek: ;) :D


Ya mean this guy?




Darren cooks, Darren has big knife, Darren eats first.

Simple really.

 :J

wynot

You all just had to remind me that breezes play havoc even with my HP outside stove on the Utah.  I keep meaning to fabricate a wind break when I am home and never remember to.

6Quigs

Quote from: 2manytoyzBananas Foster:
http://2manytoyz.com/camp/lksp2/DSCN0326s.jpg

O.K.
See the Camp Chef stove in the Bananas Foster picture.
That's the one you want.
Each ring is rated at 30,000 btu/hr, and I can boil water in a fraction of the "fraction of the time" it takes 2manytoyz to boil water on his 10,000 btu burners.
The nice thing is I can set it up anywhere on the campsite, not just against the trailer, taking up valuable "under the awning" real estate. ;)