Accusations against this "dieing" BB and members

[Gone-Camping]

We all knew that once the Pay system went into effect, the new members joining the board were going to drop way off. Yes, with the help of admin and the "free trial" period and the other sections open to anyone, this board has been able to pull in some new "paying" people. But when you compare it to the amount of people signing up on other boards, this one pale's in comparison. It's just going to be, it'll be hard for new comers to shell out money just to ask if they need to put their stabilizers down first or afterwards! And that is where much of the traffic comes from, is new users asking old questions, and old users giving old advice!

Be that as it may, we will have to accept the fact this is a PAY site, and as such will never be what it once was. As for the threads in the other boards, you may notice that I generally don't get involved with those issues. And as the sole Moderator over at HYX, I'll have my eye on anything that looks like it's bashing another site (this one, or any other one).
 
As for staying with this one, that is a loaded question too. I paid initially to see what I'd get for my money, so far I'm not really disappointed, but I have noticed the drop-off, and have to really think if it's worth another year. Adding the magazine subscription to the deal helps with that decision a great deal!!!

[dee106]

it's true, i post more now because i'm involded with the eastern rally, and i'm trying to keep that going, feed back is very slow, my concerns have been were to post things, i think general and campfire could be brought back together, and reviews and bargans of products can be put together, we are spreading out to much, hard to keep talking when you have to go here and there.

[birol]

I think Campfire should be kept seperate from the general, as we do a lot of off topic discussions there, but the different camping region discussions might be a possibility if you ask me. before I was shooed away from Nick-Neff-Cough area, I was amazed how busy that forum was.

Just an idea, don't shoot me.

[B-flat]

Birol, when were you shooed away from NNC? I read a lot of their posts in the camping forums....

[calstate360]

I think Campfire should be kept seperate from the general, as we do a lot of off topic discussions there, but the different camping region discussions might be a possibility if you ask me. before I was shooed away from Nick-Neff-Cough area, I was amazed how busy that forum was.
 
Just an idea, don't shoot me.

Briol no one shooed you away! Perhaps you misinterpeted our strange sense of humor.
Heck we would never chase anyone away, if they can put up with us maniacs they have to be ok.
Sal

[NightOwl]

Briol no one shooed you away! Perhaps you misinterpeted our strange sense of humor.
Heck we would never chase anyone away, if they can put up with us maniacs they have to be ok.
Sal

CalState--so glad to see you say this and re-assure Birol.  When I saw what he wrote, my eyebrows went up into my hairline in amazement because I just knew that somehow he had misunderstoodf something.  After all these years of you and Sacto and Y-Guy (in the past) and the others, I've concluded that your gang is the wackiest, most fun, warm and welcoming group ever to be found in any campground, cyber or real-time!

(And besides, I simply cant imagine anyone wanting to mistreat someone like Birol who is such a loyal and caring friend to all of us and such a  cheerful companion on the board no matter how many obstacles he is facing in his daily life.  I KNEW this is something none of the Cal group would ever be guilty of and now Birol surely must  be certain of this, too.) :S

[byrdr1]

Well to respond or not?

I have continued with this forum after the change because I supported Dave and his move to pay for view. I have camped with lots of you atg Townsend and I had a great time. this was the first place I found when I got my popup. I have enjoyed the forum and the folks. But now here I am over 3 years later. I have camped so many times I cant remember. I have learned alot here. I have also moved to the dark side (love it or leave it). I made mods just like alot of folks and started my own web site with camping pictures and stuff about my family and me. So I still drop in now and then just as i do on PUX. I read the HYX forum because alot of posts are more in line with a TT. I spend a lot of time at RV.Net. They are looking at support right now.. Posts are up and they are looking for advertisements also. SO with growth comes problems.. Too much band width, volume etc.
The lack of posts well  I dont know....But with PUX you do get free access and can post all you want and most of the newbies are there. Will I continue after my time runs out I dont know???Only have another month. The PUT mag does not meet my needs at this time. So I will not be renewing, not because I dont like it or it is thin, just because... I will post as long as I can and if I leave I am still on PUX and rv.net for any advise on TT camping.
I hope Dave and PUT keeps going and going, going....
Randy

[Ab Diver]

before I was shooed away from Nick-Neff-Cough area, I was amazed how busy that forum was.

We would NEVER *shoo* anyone away. We always use two shoos.
 
 

Just an idea, don't shoot me.

Ah, that's the problem.... when you spell it, you have to add the silent *T* and it looks like it has an all-together different meaning. I don't blame you-- I'd have run for cover as well. Don't worry, most of our members are terrible shots.
 
All kidding aside: Birol, you are always Welcome at our campfires, both real and virtual.
 
 
 
 
Nick-Neff-Cough.... if I gotta e'splane it, you wouldn't understand. Hehehehe...

[birol]

My sense of humor, before it gets someone mad, I wasn't shooed away, I left on my own as my sense of humor and theirs did not match So rather then bore them to death and be a thread killer, I stopped posting there, they are a lovely bunch in that forum !

Sorry for the off topic post, but had to clear it out.

Briol no one shooed you away! Perhaps you misinterpeted our strange sense of humor.
Heck we would never chase anyone away, if they can put up with us maniacs they have to be ok.
Sal

[NightOwl]

Sorry for the off topic post, but had to clear it out.

Birol, you can hi-jack one of my campfire threads any time you want! :W

It is great that people are thinking about what the board means to them and  how it might work for us in the future and that they are sharing their thoughts here.  Sometimes it is good to stop and take stock.  Seems like there are times when we take the good things in life for granted and this board may be one of them.

[B-flat]

Hehehe, I love the entertainment provided on their forum at NNC.  I also want to add that they have a wonderful website, too, with plenty of information.

[gsm x2]

As far as the apparent demise of PUT.  I still don't think so.  Every now and again I wander into the PUX and the popup section of IRV.  I haven't been there for a while, but those forums don't seem to be exceptionally busier that PUT.

What PUT has going for it is a real magazine, the fact that Dave and his crew truly support the Pop-up Communiity, and that this is the forum that has Rallies.  When we have to renew in a few months, we will renew and receive the magazine as part of the deal.

Anyone can attract a crowd by giving away FREE....experience the lines when gas stations kick back prices to 50 cents a gallon.  It takes a quality product to charge for services in a free market.

Birol---you're welcome to post in the NNC forum whenever you want.
gsm x2

[OC Campers]

I am probably one of those people that Nightowl talks about.  My
husband and I have been members of PUT since we got our PU in
2001.  When we first joined we were so new to popup camping
that we gobbled up any info we could get and answered many posts.
Unfortutely, now that we know what we are doing the need to post isn't like it used to be.  But I do want to say that if it wasn't for the wonderful people on this board, we probably would of sold the camper and went back to tent camping.
 
I have to admit, the main reason I look at the board daily is to keep up with SC Campers and NNC.  I will look at the General and Campfire forums but most of the posts are for technical issues or for other areas that I know nothing about.   I do also enjoy the recipe forum.  I have gotten a lot of
great recipes from it.  I have also posted a few of my favorites there
too.  
 
I do not know how to go about getting more people to post and I think the way the forums are listed is fine the way they are.  I like having the general and campfire separate because I know I can always find some light hearted post to make me laugh under the campfire heading.
 
I also know that I will continue to pay for PUT.  I think it is a
valuable site and have met many people that I otherwise would
of never met.  Dave even flew out to go to one of our NNC rally's
last June.  He is a great person who really cares about the popup
campers.  He has put his all into PUT and I will continue to support
his efforts.
Jacqui

[angelsmom10]

When we got our first PU in 2001, I searched the internet for information as neither of us ever owned a PU...(DH has always wanted a trailer, and I wanted a PU and when the opportunity arose for a very inexpensive PU... we jumped on it and DH now says he would always have a PU...so much nicer.)
 
Anyways.....searching the internet, there was a wealth of information out there along with message boards.  I did a lot of searching and found that PUT seemed the best... there was a comadery (spelling???) among the members and there was a wealth of information.. questions could be repeated and answers were given freely... last year, this issue came up about the board dying and I started with a general question about PU-ing and people told me to just do a search.... I knew the answer, I wanted to just start things with general questions hoping to get different responses and NOT  --- do a search.  When we just joined, I know questions were repeated asked, but it kept the interest going and always received at least 1 new idea (if not more) as new members came and people tried different things.
 
We met most of our camping friends from GLPUC here on PUT... most of them have left as they did not want to pay.  We wanted to remain loyal to Dave as it was his original site and magazine that gave us the love for our PU.  With DH out of unemployment, when our membership runs out, we are being forced to leave here; except for the forums that will allow non-paying members.  This is very emotional for me and I do wish PUT and it's current members the best hope that the site does not die... everyone keep it going and start topics about the basics of PU's...DO's and DON'Ts... what to look for.... how to's....
 
Everyone enter your input and don't just answer with ...."this has been discussed before and do a search" or whatever similar responses that have been posted in the past..
 
 
 

[NightOwl]

Strange how things turn out. DNO (Dean) almost never posted on the last Snitz forum but does plenty of it now on his own board. He even became a member of THIS board in October!

Folks post their ads here because it's FREE. On DNO's site, they must PAY to advertise, so very few do. I guess supporting that board with their $$ isn't worth it because there's a FREE place to go instead!

I subscribe to this board and to 'The Magazine' because I like them both....and I like Dave. I send people we meet at campgrounds and people asking about popups HERE. As far as I'm concerned, there isn't any other place I want to be. Dave, the innovator, created that which others now copy. And, ours is a troll FREE environment. Makes for less stress and more quality reading.

From my perspective, I'd much rather be with the best than the rest. Count me in on staying with Dave!

As much as it pains me to agree with a sibling :eek: , I have to say that Al makes a lot of sense.

It is really great to see all the good ideas people are expressing here  

And I  hope that other members  will add their  candid thoughts as well.  :W