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Started by NightOwl, Feb 14, 2004, 11:12 AM

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MtnCamper

Quote from: MtnCamperDoes that mean it's going to happen, or we are just talking about it? :confused:
Back to my question, That's the same way I read it.....

NightOwl

MntnCamper  if I am wrong about this, I will personally pay for YOUR membership renewal, but having met Dave in person and having talked to him on the phone at length a number of times, my sense of the man is that he would NEVER mention a price if he were not prepared to put that amount on the bottom line.  He is very cautious,  a straight-shooter, and doesnt  say things until he knows what he is getting himself into.

I just cannot believe he would mention his conversation with Charlie unless he could be sure that the price he mentioned is what it is going to actually be.

JMHO, and if I'm wrong, Gary gets a year of the board and the magazine as my guest :J

MtnCamper

I am reasonably sure also. But I'm just the kind of guy that wants to make sure. I also make store honor their tags on the shevles....... Or sell me the second at the same price the first is marked. (hint) look in the rear of the shelf. :rolleyes:

MommaMia

Quote from: NightOwlJMHO, and if I'm wrong, Gary gets a year of the board and the magazine as my guest :J


And she means it too!  I KNOW!!! ;)

SactoCampers

I've finally had a chance to read through all of the posts.

 
First, Birol, I get your humor! ;)
 
Two, all the compliments paid to Dave are accurate. A real genuine nice person.
 
Three, reducing the price to board access and is a great idea. I don't know how many it will bring back. But I don't really care either. This group is great, and while I don't get the opportunity to check it (or participate) as often as I used to, I know I don't have to wade through pages of posts to catch up.
 
There is something special about PUT. There always has been and likely always will be. And even though I just purchased a little hybrid, I will still be here.

gsm x2

$20.00 for the magazine and access to the Board....sounds like a great deal to me.  I'll wait for the official announcement.
 
But for contributing to the magazine...give me the T-shirt.  I love saying, "I'm a published author and I have the T-shirt to prove it."  :J
 
gsm x2

NightOwl

I've been reading back through all  the posts in this thread and  find everyone's remarks enlightening and  thoughtful.  And something very good has happened here.  Yes, I know the plan for the revised fee schedule is "something very good" but I actually had another "something very good" in mind.  And it is this:

If Dave ever felt that we took him, the magazine, and/or  the board for granted, he has  learned the past day or two that we  place great value on our own unique "trinity" (remember, we were once called a "cult" ;)  )

It is still winter, the weather in many parts of the country is drab, we are gettihng antsy, but that hasnt kept us from gathering here regularly, from reading every word in the magazine,  or from appreciating the hard work Dave and  his merry band of helpers all put into the board and the magazine.  He certainly ought to be convinced after our  candid, coast to coast  assessments of the "new board" that we do not lack afrfection or gratitude.  And the news that he will continue "this place" as well as the magazine ought to cheer all of us as we await the arrival of Spring :W  :S

Funny--I DO actually  think of this board as a REAL PLACE.  Do some of the rest of you do this?

MommaMia

Quote from: NightOwlFunny--I DO actually  think of this board as a REAL PLACE.  Do some of the rest of you do this?


I know I sure do.  Sometimes, though, I catch myself talking to a friend or family member about one thing or another and I'll mention a friend or a tip from PUT, and I'll quickly explain that it's a magazine and online forum that I belong to.  Well, I can't tell you how many odd looks I have gotten.  The whole conversation comes to a screeching halt with me ending up taking the next 10 mins to explain my "involvement" with an online forum.  Some people get it, or at least tell me they do.  Others look at me like I just told them that I am going on a cruise with Anna Nicole next week!  Sometimes I end up feeling all flustered, like I got caught dressing up in Star Trek outfits or something! (disclaimer... not intended to offend any present Trekkies... I just couldn't ever explain it to my family if I were to dress up.  I have no problem with you dressing up!)  It seems some just don't get that you can have a real and meaningful relationship with people you have never met face to face.  One thing that seems to make bridging the connection gap a little easier is to show them your pictures from the rallies you have all been to.  Makes it more real.

griffsmom

Quote from: birolMy sense of humor, before it gets someone mad, I wasn't shooed away, I left on my own as my sense of humor and theirs did not match :):):) So rather then bore them to death and be a thread killer, I stopped posting there, they are a lovely bunch in that forum !
 
Sorry for the off topic post, but had to clear it out.
Birol, I, too, have been accused of being a thread killer by my brothuhs and Haha sistuhs at NNC.  Don't let them kid you--it takes real power and wits to shut that bunch up.  Thread-killing is a badge of honor and distinction, not a mark of shame, and as everyone knows...
 
 
WE DON'T NEED ANY STINKIN' BADGES! :D
 
 
But seriously, please don't be put off by our RR-ing--you (and anyone else who can take the heat ;) ) are welcome in our neck of the woods any time. :)

B-flat

....and I'm bringing a whole Bluegrass Band. ;)  :D  :eek:  :cool:  :J

copcarguy

Hey all!!

I just read through the past seven pages and I am glad someone brought this topic up...  Several fellow PUT'ers and I were sitting around a campfire this past season and we were discussing this very thing.  Yes, I do feel like PUT has lost some of the "magic" from when I first became involved here nearly four years ago.  Do I post as much as I used to??  No...  Do I have a reason??  I'm not really sure to be 100% honest.  It has nothing to do with paying to write this post, for as far as I'm concerned, PUT has given me & my family priceless help, advice, information, new places to visit, and of course camping FRIENDS!!  I have made friends here that I cherish.  I will continue to be here just for that reason.  We even started a camping club COTOC thanks to Dave and PUT bringing us all together.  I am also thankful that there is a COTOC section here at PUT!  We have several events planned for this year already...    
 
I guess for me what made some of the "magic" fade away was with how the information that PUT was going to charge a fee was presented to us here on the board.  Here's my point of view:  We attended the PUT Rally in Sept 2002 at Eagles Peak CG in PA.  We were one of the first families to arrive, and we got our "own site".  The CG staff advised us that "we were lucky to get a single site"...  To make a long story short, some people that signed up for the rally were stacked two families to a site!!  Dave showed up later that evening and really went to bat for us PUT'ers...  An enjoyable weekend was ensured for all despite this oversight, and I can honestly say that Dave gave 110% to make everyone happy - even to the point that maybe HE didn't get to relax at this rally.  There were prizes courtesy of PUT, a beautiful dinner, it was great!  I have great memories of this trip and to top it all off - we got our picture in PUT!  What an honor!!
 
Now....... fast forward almost one month and without warning we all read a post that there will be a fee, if you don't like it, oh well.  I am aware it was not in these exact words, but I DO remember feeling "slapped in the face" when I read it, and thinking it was written in a "matter of fact", "mechanical" tone.  What happened to the warm fuzzy feelings I got from the rally just weeks earlier??  Why wasn't anything said at the rally??  We had a few PUT meetings in that lodge room that would've been perfect times to say "We're probably going to need to charge a fee soon".  Why weren't we given some kind of warning??  All we got was WHAMMO!! here's what we're gonna do on this date - written in a cold manner...  Where were the warm fuzzies that we had come to love from PUT??  While reading that single post, I could feel "the magic" fading away....
 
Do I read any other pop up camping boards, honestly no.  I am now spending what would've been PUT internet time on eBay.  I need to get "the magic" feeling back, because eBay is getting quite expensive.  Seriously though, I hope this is NOT taken as "PUT bashing" because it's not.  PUT and Dave have made my life better - I couldn't imagine my life without PUT and this board.  I will continue to pay to write these posts and keep in touch with old friends and make new ones...  THANKS PUT!!
 
PS - I have looked for "PUT magic feeling" on eBay but it is never listed - anyone know where I can find any??  :p :D :confused:

MommaMia

Quote from: copcarguyPS - I have looked for "PUT magic feeling" on eBay but it is never listed - anyone know where I can find any??  :p :D :confused:

Hall and Oates must know where you are coming from....


You never close your eyes anymore when I kiss your lips
And there's no tenderness like before in your finger tips
You're trying hard not to show it
But baby, baby I know it
You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling
Oh that Lovin' Feeling
You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling
Now it's gone gone gone oh oh oh
There's no welcome look in your eyes when I reach for you
And girl you're starting to criticize little things I do
Ooh, it makes me just feel like crying (baby)
'Cause baby something beautiful's dying
You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling
Oh that Lovin' Feeling
You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling
Not it's gone gone gone oh oh oh
Baby baby I get down on my knees for you
If you would only love me like you used to
(If you would only love me love me)
We had a love, a love that you don't find everyday
(A love you don't find)
So don't don't don't let it slip away (away)
I said baby
Baby
Baby
Baby
I need your love (I need your love)
I need your love
So bring it on back (bring it on back)
Now bring it on back
Now bring it on back
You've got to bring back that lovin' feeling
Oh that lovin' feeling
Bring back that lovin' feeling 'cause it's gone gone gone
oh oh oh
Bring back that lovin' feeling
Oh that lovin' feeling
Bring back that lovin' feeling 'cause it's gone gone gone
Bring back that lovin' feeling
Oh that lovin' feeling
Bring back that lovin' feeling 'cause it's gone gone gone
Bring back that lovin' feeling
Oh that lovin' feeling
Bring back that lovin' feeling 'cause it's gone gone gone

gsm x2

Quote from: MommaMiaHall and Oates must know where you are coming from....
 
 
You never close your eyes anymore when I kiss your lips
And there's no tenderness like before in your finger tips
You're trying hard not to show it
But baby, baby I know it
You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling
Oh that Lovin' Feeling
Hall and Oates?  I thought a sexy old lady and a tree-bashing congressman sang that song?  But then my DW corrected me.  Rightoues Brothers.
 
gsm x2

MommaMia

Quote from: gsm x2Hall and Oates?  I thought a sexy old lady and a tree-bashing congressman sang that song?  But then my DW corrected me.  Rightoues Brothers.
 
gsm x2

Yes, Righteous Brothers.  But we have the Hall and Oates version in our cd repertoire.

birol

Copcarguy, I have quite a few jars of PUT warm fuzzy feeling with me, I will list them on eBay if you wish, and at a specially  reduced price of lets say Five hundrend million Turkish Liras  :Oops:  :W  :J

Quote from: copcarguyHey all!!

........
PS - I have looked for "PUT magic feeling" on eBay but it is never listed - anyone know where I can find any??  :p :D :confused: