Uh oh .....Need ideas How to proceed ?

[birol]

Looks like I need to have this thing registered in MA to be able to get license plates.

How long does that take anyone knows ? Canadian MTO (Our DMV) will not issue a trip permit since it is not even a Canadian vehicle yet. MA RMV does not issue temporary tags ... I hope I am nit in a bind here ! I would have to hate having to register pay 5% taxes, and 50 bucks for the license plates just for a days trip !

I don't think it is wise to tow it when it has no license plates right ?  I would surely be pulled over

I am already paying 50 bucks extra to get the title (They don't have it) and hoping that I don't ahve to keep spending money .....

Any ideas ?

[Miss-Teri]

Birol, I'm thinking there is (or was) a law in Oklahoma that trailers made before a certain date didn't have to be tagged.  We had a really old PU, made in around 1965 that didn't need a tag.  I'll ask DH more about that - I might be remembering it wrong.  Anyway, you might check with a tag agency in the states you'll be pulling it through.  If it doesn't need a tag in the US, then you won't have to worry about it until you pass the border.  Maybe you can find a tag agency in the US online and e-mail them, explaining your dilemna.

[birol]

I sent an e-mail to the Mass. DMV and explained the situation .... Hopefully they read e-mail ... I don't want to be on hold 15 minutes long distance just to ask them a simple question. I hope you are right that they don't require it ...  Once I am in Canada, I don't have to worry as with the customs papers I have 7 days to register it. They won't care if it has no license plates as it was just imported.

Birol, I'm thinking there is (or was) a law in Oklahoma that trailers made before a certain date didn't have to be tagged.  We had a really old PU, made in around 1965 that didn't need a tag.  I'll ask DH more about that - I might be remembering it wrong.  Anyway, you might check with a tag agency in the states you'll be pulling it through.  If it doesn't need a tag in the US, then you won't have to worry about it until you pass the border.  Maybe you can find a tag agency in the US online and e-mail them, explaining your dilemna.

[Jeffrey]

Hey Mr B........ Congrats again.

I know nuthing bout crossing borders???

But IMO as far as I know......... a temporary permit or license is just what they give you when you apply for the real license.

I have never heard of one issued just to tranport a trailer?

I would think as long as you have a title and a receipt for your purchase. It would be yours, then bring it home and registar it there.

I can't imagine you as a Canadian would or even could registar anything in the US.

[birol]

Mass. DMV does not issue temporary tags That is the problem ..   If I have no tags on it, I am sure to stopped by highway patrols and fined .... I don't think they will care that I purchased it and just taking it home.  As far as they are concerned, it is  a trailer on the roads with no license plates.

I don't want to register it and As you said, I am not even sure if I can register it, as I don't live in USA.

Hey Mr B........ Congrats again.

I know nuthing bout crossing borders???

But IMO as far as I know......... a temporary permit or license is just what they give you when you apply for the real license.

I have never heard of one issued just to tranport a trailer?

I would think as long as you have a title and a receipt for your purchase. It would be yours, then bring it home and registar it there.

I can't imagine you as a Canadian would or even could registar anything in the US.

[Jeffrey]

If I have no tags on it, I am sure to stopped by highway patrols and fined .... I don't think they will care that I purchased it and just taking it home.

If they stop you, tell them you bought it and are taking it home.
Just, Show them the receipt and title. ( They have to allow you to get it home. Unless they think a member of your DMV is going to follow to MA to buy it?)
I think that's all a officer woud want to see, so they know your not stealing it.

A permit or license isn't really a toll to use the road.
Of course that's usually where the fees go, for the roads.
But they don't charge Canadians tolls to use our roads.
Except of course roads with tolls...:screwy:

[birol]

Since it is a trailer, that is really what I am thinking of doing ... Even if it is not completely legal, they might just allow me to continue ... I do not see being arrested for it  :eyecrazy:

If they stop you, tell them you bought it and are taking it home.
Just, Show them the receipt and title.
I think that's all a officer woud want to see, so they know your not stealing it.

A permit or license isn't really a toll to use the road.
Of course that's usually where the fees go, for the roads.
But they don't charge Canadians tolls to use our roads.
Except of course roads with tolls...

[wiininkwe]

I do believe that you can do that, transport it home. If you are unsure, ask the DMV about a transport tag, but it seems like you are allowed to transport it home without tags. But you have to show receipt that you have just purchased it, probably title as well.
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[angelsmom10]

A police friend of mine has always said "ignorance is not an excuse"; so I'd be sure before you try that.
 
Contact the place again and get their email and correspond everything via email and keep all the emails.
 
Ask for their help. They should know who to contact to get this information. If they want your business, they will sure help.
 
Just my 2cents
 
 
ALSO, maybe we can find someone in MA that can make calls for you and it won't cost you an arm and a leg.

[mike4947]

wiininkwe makes a good point, many state issue transporter tags. It might just be a matter of mentioning the word transporter rather than temperary. Because temp licenses and plates are issue to cover the period between requests for them and the actual receipt of the licenses or plates.
Transporter tags are specifically designed for moving a vehicle from one location to another and would get you to the border.

[MommaMia]

Birol...I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... it looks like in MA, it will take 6-8 weeks to get the title.  The dealer can submit the rquired forms for you but it takes 6-8 weeks to get the title in hand.  (617) 351-4500 is the phone # for MA RMV Customer Service.

[birol]

Called Mass. DMV, but was on hold for more than ten minutes, hanged up without being able to talk with anyone

[birol]

He said that he can get it in three days as they have  special section or something. It is 6 to 8 weeks if I applied for it. Asked him twice , hope he knows what he is talking about ....

Birol...I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... it looks like in MA, it will take 6-8 weeks to get the title.  The dealer can submit the rquired forms for you but it takes 6-8 weeks to get the title in hand.  (617) 351-4500 is the phone # for MA RMV Customer Service.

[NightOwl]

Birol--my darling oldest SIL (a very bright man) ALWAYS gets the name and title and department of ANYONE he talks to on the phone, notes where they can be reached, and any other information about them in case, later, he has to refer to them or the information they give him.   Also, take detailed  notes about the questions you ask and the specific  response each person gives to each question so that later, you know exactly what each person told you..  


Print all this up and have it in your car on your trip in case you need to refer to any of this or explain it to some member of law enforcement so they know you looked into following legal procedures and are doing your best to do the right thing..

As well, ANY information you receive via e-mail from any officials or  state offices regarding registration or towing permits, should be printed up and taken with you on your journey to pick up the new pu and return home with it.

Like the others here, it doesnt make sense to me that you'd be forced to buy tags or registration for  a vehicle which will not "reside" in the US.  In fact, I towed my TM home from the dealer 120 miles (and right thru the center of Atlanta) with no sign of a tag on it and no one even looked at me, much less stopped me.

Even worse, I COMPLETELY forgot the tags, and when I towed it to Michigan a month later, drove there and back completely ignored by everyone, STILL with no tags on it.  (Of course, it was pure, dumb luck)  This was a 1,500 mile round trip with no one asking me anything about anything re: registation or tags, titles, etc.  It was like I was invisible.. Weird.

You might not be so lucky, though, so err on the side of caution.

[jpreiser]

Sorry about your tag troubles, hopefully you can get it with out to much hassel... Since I dont live in MASS I dont know the laws, but I would think if you called a mass Rv dealer asking about purchasing a rv and taking it back to Canada they may be able to tell you how to go about it....


Maybe you should just move to the states and then you won't have to worry about the border etc