What have you actually done to reduce "greenhouse" gas emissions?

Started by chasd60, May 17, 2007, 12:55 PM

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tplife

Quote from: AustinBostonAvoid, yes.  Ignore?  Well, only a fool woul ignore them - they may yet prove to be right.

But in answer to the question (and the unspoken question "What have you done to reduce our dependence on foreign oil?") I'll take your answer as NOTHING.

The point of my signature isn't that we need to brace for the inevitable catastrophy that the fearmongers are declaring, but that even though I think global warming via "greenhouse gasses" is a crock, I've done more than the typical noisemaker to to reduce my "carbon footprint" and reduce our dependence on foreign oil.  I've saved myself more than just a bit of pocket change in the process.

Austin

To reduce dependence on foreign oil, I've lobbied my reps to build more refineries, drill for oil offshore and open that tiny part of ANWR that has huge oil reserves just waiting to be cracked and fed into my 95" Harley-Davidson engine (with a boost of toluene for the octane rating).  Within about five years the whole "global warming" scare will blow over.  These things always go in cycles, and Al Gore will still have all his daddy's Occidental Petroleum dividends to keep him in flat-screen monitors and Gulfstream 5 jets.
I believe that any scientist worth his salt will tell you not to sweat it and just do as your mother told you and everything will be fine.

Old Goat

tplife, I agree with you. This whole global warming thing is strictly another political ploy in order to raise taxes..Global Warming tax? You betcha, it's already being talked about....

LimeJeeeep

china india and russia are laughing at us....."green house gases   hah".they love Al Gore didn,t the chinese finance that movie ..oh no that was the campaine they financed.....i get them two mixed up all the time

Twolarsons

Well everyone should have know that this thread would result in an argument. Personally, I haven't done a thing to eliminate my CO2 production and I'm frankly sick and tired of people asking about my "carbon footprint". We are not going to burst into flames because my GMC Sierra with a HUGE V-8 only gets 18 miles to the gallon! I remember when I was a kid and everyone was terrified that we were going to freeze to death from the coming ice age in the 80s. Well that didn't happen now did it. This is all a bunch of unsubstantiated garbage. And Yes, I said unsubstantiated. Everyone knows that you can make numbers do whatever you want them. Statistics are easily manipulated to prove whatever point you are trying to make.

As for our dependency on foreign oil, here

brainpause

Quote from: Twolarsonsmy GMC Sierra with a HUGE V-8 only gets 18 miles to the gallon! [/I][/B]

Wow! How do you do it? I can only get about 16mpg in my 06 Silverado with 5.3L V8. Of course, a lot of it is city driving.

Larry

Twolarsons

Quote from: brainpauseWow! How do you do it? I can only get about 16mpg in my 06 Silverado with 5.3L V8. Of course, a lot of it is city driving.

Larry

I average 18mpg and drive mostly highway miles. I rarely have to sit in traffic. If it's strictly highway miles, I get closer to 20mpg unless I'm towing the PU. All I do is keep the engine tip top with clean air and fuel filters and regular 3000 mile service. I love my truck - especially when those Toyota Prius drivers glare at me.

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Nemesis56

Quote from: chasd60I have owned two Geo Metros in the last 10 years, one was an xFI which was rated at 58mpg highway and 53 city.
The second one was rated 48 and 43 and I put a fuel bubbler system on it with an O2 sensor fooler to add 10% better fuel economy.
I slowed down to 60mph on the highway with my present car which is a 98 Buick Park Ave Ultra and get 30+mpg with the supercharger belt removed and running on regular gasoline (don't use the truck to commute, TV & Home Depot only). This is a 95 mile daily commute.
I use solar panels on my hybrid instead of running a generator.
I ocassionally use the battery and panels to power the television and lighting in my bedroom at home.
I have replaced 99% of my household lighting with CFL's.
 
My area of the world isn't crowded enough to have commuter rail trains, subways or buses.


Followed OwlGore's example and put in a couple thousand lights and set my house to use a few megawatts of power 24/7,  because I can.  Then preach to everyone about the evils that they are doing.

SPXTrader

I eat a lot of red meat.  That comes from cows.  Cows give off methane gas.  So, in a small way by slaughtering cows for my red meat, I'm helping out, too!

khawk


fallsrider

No offense to anyone, but I don't believe, based on science, that mankind is doing anything to change the global climate. The earth naturally does that on its own and we can't stop it or change it.

On the other hand, if you want to argue foreign dependence on oil as a national security concern, then we might find ourselves agreeing on some things concerning energy conservation.

Don't get me wrong. I don't want myself or others to pollute the earth unreasonably to endanger people's health, and I believe in cleaning up after myself to keep the great outdoors nice looking for others. But I don't make decisions or change my lifestyle based on global warming fears. The term "global warming" has been given a new meaning to make folks believe that it is all man's fault. Hogwash. It is the natural cycle of the earth designed into it by our Creator. I heard on the radio just yesterday that some recent research has led some scientists, or a scientist (I'm not sure), to conclude that the warming cycle may have actually ended a few years ago and the average global temperatures have leveled off. Whether that's true or not, I would bet that within the lifetimes of the younger members of this board, a cooling cycle will begin.

beacher

I've used my backround in science and research and my career as an Engineer to build more powerful and fuel efficient jet engines, turbine engines, rocket motors, and use less CFCs for industrial processes.  I also promote the research of fusion nuclear reactors, fuel cells, and economical solar and wind power.  Oh, and I drive a Prius! :D

dademt

Quote from: fallsriderNo offense to anyone, but I don't believe, based on science, that mankind is doing anything to change the global climate. The earth naturally does that on its own and we can't stop it or change it.
 
On the other hand, if you want to argue foreign dependence on oil as a national security concern, then we might find ourselves agreeing on some things concerning energy conservation.
 
Don't get me wrong. I don't want myself or others to pollute the earth unreasonably to endanger people's health, and I believe in cleaning up after myself to keep the great outdoors nice looking for others. But I don't make decisions or change my lifestyle based on global warming fears. The term "global warming" has been given a new meaning to make folks believe that it is all man's fault. Hogwash. It is the natural cycle of the earth designed into it by our Creator. I heard on the radio just yesterday that some recent research has led some scientists, or a scientist (I'm not sure), to conclude that the warming cycle may have actually ended a few years ago and the average global temperatures have leveled off. Whether that's true or not, I would bet that within the lifetimes of the younger members of this board, a cooling cycle will begin.
I agree and here is a good book to read if anyone is interested:
Unstoppable Global Warming by S. Fred Singer and Dennis T. Avery

ptbrauch

What ever happened to the hole in the ozone layer that was going to give us all skin cancer?  

And what happened to everyone wanting to save the whales, save the rainforests, and all the other causes du jour.  Have we solved those issues already?

And then there was Y2K to change civilization as we all know it.

And now global warming...

fallsrider

Quote from: ptbrauchWhat ever happened to the hole in the ozone layer that was going to give us all skin cancer?  

And what happened to everyone wanting to save the whales, save the rainforests, and all the other causes du jour.  Have we solved those issues already?

And then there was Y2K to change civilization as we all know it.

And now global warming...

There are a lot of people that have to have a crisis, in their mind, to survive, I guess. They just can't enjoy life as it is.

beacher

Quote from: ptbrauchWhat ever happened to the hole in the ozone layer that was going to give us all skin cancer?

It's MUCH bigger now, and yes, you can get skin cancer much easier if you live near the Northern latitudes.  Try RELECTIX or Gizmos!  The noisemakers are older now, and gave up.

Quote from: ptbrauchAnd what happened to everyone wanting to save the whales,

Large Whales are now virtually extinct.  The protesters sometimes still go out there in their Greenpeace boats.  But, they have virtually given up.  Kinda pointless to protect something that no longer exists.

Quote from: ptbrauchsave the rainforests,

Some rainforests are now supporting sustainable, profitable, and legal crops like coffee.  The rest are still dissapearing.  And the protesting folks are now older and gave up!

Quote from: ptbrauchand all the other causes du jour.  Have we solved those issues already?

Nope.  The people are older and gave up.

Quote from: ptbrauchAnd then there was Y2K to change civilization as we all know it.

OK, now that one was a big fiasco from the get go!  It made alot of I.T. contractors rich!

Quote from: ptbrauchAnd now global warming...

You can choose to call it a natural event or cycle.  But it is happening.



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