Full Timer or Homeless

[Dray]

Last weekend I was out camping and saw there was another PU in the campground.  I'm always excited about this and so I walked by and took a look.  The PU was in very bad shape.  One bed end was collapsed and just hanging like a wet sock.  The door was also off and leaning against the side.  I later talked with the guy and found out he was a "full timer."  

Made me wonder what the difference is between a full timer and a homeless person.  

Is a full timer a smart homeless person?  

Is the difference between a full timer and someone who is homeless a difference between the decision being voluntary?

[want2camp]

In North Carolina, social services considers children that live in campers "homeless".  We have to turn in homeless stats on our school children every year.

[AustinBoston]

In North Carolina, social services considers children that live in campers "homeless".  We have to turn in homeless stats on our school children every year.

How do they define "camper"?  I would love to see a definition for camper that includes travel trailers but does not include mobile homes, and still be understood by the children (or whomever) that is ultimately answering the question.

Many campgrounds have limits on how long you can stay so that you can not "establish residence" at their campground.

The IRS says a "second home" does not need to have a foundation, stay in one place, or even have hookups.  It must have bathroom, cooking, and sleeping facilites, and it is a "home," at least for tax deduction purposes.  This means a Coleman Niagara is a "home" according to the IRS.  There are millions of Americans who take this tax deduction.  So now someone deducting the interest on their "home" from their federal income tax is considered "homeless" by the schools in North Carolina.

I just love the government.

BTW, this is an issue that has gone all the way to the US Supreme Court.  The SC decided that full-timers are 1) not homeless and 2) can choose any state they want for a 'state of residence" for voting purposes, as long as they maintain a driver's license and spend at least 30 continuous days a year in that state.  I believe there may have been restrictions on voting in local elections.

Austin

[AustinBoston]

Last weekend I was out camping and saw there was another PU in the campground.  I'm always excited about this and so I walked by and took a look.  The PU was in very bad shape.  One bed end was collapsed and just hanging like a wet sock.  The door was also off and leaning against the side.  I later talked with the guy and found out he was a "full timer."  

Made me wonder what the difference is between a full timer and a homeless person.  

Is a full timer a smart homeless person?  

Is the difference between a full timer and someone who is homeless a difference between the decision being voluntary?

It sounds to me like this person is "trailer trash" in the most literal sense of the word. :eyecrazy:

Austin

[GeneF]

It sounds to me like this person is "trailer trash" in the most literal sense of the word. :eyecrazy:

Austin

And I wonder what it would be like to have had to walk in his shoes.

[SherryandFamily]

We go to the Holiday Trav L Park in Virginia Beach several times a year, and have gotten to know the staff pretty well.  They have a program they call "work campers". A certain section of the campground is set aside for them, most of them have big TT, 5ers, or MHs.  

This summer there was a couple there in a tent.  The husband and wife worked for the campground.  They didn't even have a real site, they set up in a place not big enough for an actual site, with a large extension cord running to the electric box of another site.

I wonder what you call that?

Sherry

[AustinBoston]

And I wonder what it would be like to have had to walk in his shoes.

I don't.  People who can't take care of the place they live, no matter how modest, are trash.  I've seen street people take care of their "home," even if it was little more than a cardboard box.  

And if you want some shoes to walk in, I have some.

Austin

[GeneF]

I don't.  People who can't take care of the place they live, no matter how modest, are trash.  I've seen street people take care of their "home," even if it was little more than a cardboard box.  

And if you want some shoes to walk in, I have some.

Austin

Sorry to see that you have that sort of an attitude.  I really hadn't expected it from you.

You can keep your shoes, Austin, I have my own to walk in.

[flyfisherman]

Is a full timer a smart homeless person?  

Hey ... maybe the guy is happy.

Last month while in Alaska I saw a couple of guys (two different occassions), who lived way back in off, I mean, the beaten path! And they kind of looked like they did, too! One guy had flown his float plane in for supplies and after he loaded the plane up (single engine, four place), I mean you could'nt have gotten another thing into that plane!  He took off for his remote island homestead. This guy was happy.  The other guy had come in by boat for supplies, too. Can say the same for him, too.

Whatever happened to the "pursit of happiness" anyway? Has it all been lost to political correctness ... have the social engineers tainted all of our ideas?

Boy, had I seen that Alaska country 30 years ago y'all sure would'nt be putting up with me now!



Fly

[tlhdoc]

OK boys, can't we all just get along???

[Dray]

Hey ... maybe the guy is happy.
Fly

He did seem happy.  Might have had something to do with that 32oz Budweiser in his hand, but I saw him at other times and he seemed happy then too.

[AustinBoston]

You can keep your shoes, Austin, I have my own to walk in.

There's a term for that, too.

Austin