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Started by JimS, Aug 17, 2008, 08:42 PM

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BirdMan

I have done a lot of testing with all sorts of LED's over the years in many types of applications from camping trailers to computers.  JimS, the LED's you purchased are mechanically just like the one's superbrightlights.com sells.  You can see the specs on this "type" of LED at http://www.superbrightleds.com/specs/pcblamp.htm.  

tlhdoc, as austinado16 mentions the number of LED's on a board/lamp means nothing in respect to how much usable light they put out.  Three factors determine the amount, quality, and how our eye perceives this light.  They are Luminous Flux (Unit=Lumens) which is how bright a light is, Dominant Wavelength/CCT (=nm/K) which is the color the light seems to be, and Beam Pattern (Unit=degrees).

My experience is you want to first find the hightest Lumens LED you can find.  For reading a book the beam pattern will be important so you don't have to move your book back & forth to get the paragraph under the light.  The LED's JimS was looking at on ebay have a 100 degree beam angle coming off each LED.  Dominant Wavelength is the color the LED light will appear.  A standard incandescent bulb is around 3000K.  The higher the number the more blue/purple the light looks.

T10-PCB-CWHP9 have 120 Lumens and have a beam pattern of 120 degrees.  This is the push in type connector.  The part number for the 1156 connector type is 1156-PCB-CWHP9.  austinado16  is this the one you bought?

austinado16

Quote from: BirdMan...... The part number for the 1156 connector type is 1156-PCB-CWHP9.  austinado16  is this the one you bought?

Yes, I bought 4 of those to replace my 4 overhead 1156 bulbs, and then, because my porch light is sporting the amber lens (which I like), I bought just one of the amber 36LED PCB with the 1156 base.


To Wavery and 6Quigs:  Thanks for making me feel like a girlyman for owning a canvas shod rig with only 2 light fixtures on board.  I'll be over in the corner rocking myself...........if anyone cares.................................................... :(

tlhdoc

I have the 36 LED bulbs and find that they are bright enough.  They make my fluorescent lantern's light look yellow.  I debated getting the 9 Super Bright LEDs, but felt they would be too bright and I am happy that I did not get them, after using the 36's for a week of dry camping.  I am going to order LED bulbs for my fan/light combos.  They are the lights the kids usually turn on, since they can not reach the ceiling fixtures.:)

wavery

Quote from: austinado16Yes, I bought 4 of those to replace my 4 overhead 1156 bulbs, and then, because my porch light is sporting the amber lens (which I like), I bought just one of the amber 36LED PCB with the 1156 base.


To Wavery and 6Quigs:  Thanks for making me feel like a girlyman for owning a canvas shod rig with only 2 light fixtures on board.  I'll be over in the corner rocking myself...........if anyone cares.................................................... :(
Hey....I wasn't bragging....I was complaining :p

6Quigs

Quote from: austinado16To Wavery and 6Quigs:  Thanks for making me feel like a girlyman for owning a canvas shod rig with only 2 light fixtures on board.  I'll be over in the corner rocking myself...........if anyone cares.................................................... :(

Even when we camp with full hookups, we never use all 24 lights at the same time.
When we are dry camping, like last weekend, we only use about 4 of the lights, two in the living space, one in the bathroom and one in the rear bedroom and really try to conserve battery power. So, I just might only buy 8 of these to start with and put them in the lamps we use the most.
The next two trips are dry camping, so we will get to try them out.

6Quigs

I found a thread over at RV.net discussing LED's in his truck camper.

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/20592440.cfm

he has done some nice comparisions between the different types and has plenty of photos included.

I have just ordered some of the ones on the flat board with 36 and some with 9 LED's on them.
I have also ordered the 1156-3w High Power Refractor bulb.
With 24 different bulbs in my RV, I will have plenty of places to try them out, and decide which is the best fit for each location. Some lamps are for general illumination, while some over the dinette of the couch will be used for reading so will need the more spotlight effect.

austinado16

Very intersting reading!

Just in time too, because my LED's came today.  I'm sort of surprised at how small the circuit boards are.  Just a little bigger than a book of matches.  Can't wait to install and test!

jeepmaniowa

Quote from: austinado16Very intersting reading!

Just in time too, because my LED's came today.  I'm sort of surprised at how small the circuit boards are.  Just a little bigger than a book of matches.  Can't wait to install and test!


I just installed the same type (9 led) and the HW bulbs also.
The 9 LED are brighter than the HW bulbs.  Now, I need a higher lumen one to replace the bulb in the Fan/light combo, which it used over the dinette.

Anybody know of a 240 or higher lumen led that will work in a 1141/1156 socket?

Thanks.

Bob

austinado16

I've been wondering:  Since the 9LED PCB is so small, could a person use 2 of them in one location by splicing the wires from one PCB to the other power/ground wires on the other PCB, so you'd wind up with one socket and 2 PCB's for double the output?  The bummer about it would be the $43.

jeepmaniowa

Quote from: austinado16I've been wondering:  Since the 9LED PCB is so small, could a person use 2 of them in one location by splicing the wires from one PCB to the other power/ground wires on the other PCB, so you'd wind up with one socket and 2 PCB's for double the output?  The bummer about it would be the $43.

I wouldn't trust my soldering of the wires and end up destroying my current LED's.  :)

It would be nice if the manufacturers would design an LED that produces the same amount of light as it is replacing in an incandescent bulb, only using less energy and with the same or smaller footprint.

I might try a halogen in place of the tungsten filament 1141 bulb.

I'm satisfied with the amount of light the current LEDs put out in there designated fixtures.

I just need one LED that is bright enough to light up the dinette area and be able to read a book at night (my wife does that).  I'm outside with barley pop and watching the campfire/moonlight.

Later,

Bob

wavery

Quote from: waveryAh-ha.....I see a battle of the LEDs looming on the horizon... :yikes:

That settles it, you now have to join one of the SCCAMPER camp-outs with us so that we can compare LEDs.... :sombraro:

Actually, I saw the stats on the 9-LED panels and gave it a little consideration. Then I broke out the calculator and did the math. Our Trailmanor has 12 interior lights (6 doubles). I settled for 8 for the time being. I'm not real concerned about the 2 in the bathroom or the 2 in the aft bunk.

BTW, I am not recommending these LEDs yet. I will report back after they arrive and I install them.
I installed my new LED lights........I must say....I'm not impressed with the brightness. They're OK. I think it will just take a little getting used to.

We definitely had to turn on every light in the camper while working in there. Even at that, I can run every light with less draw than one of the old style.

6Quigs

I got mine last week and installed them yesterday.
They are not as bright as the incandensent bulbs, but I have so many lights it does not matter.
i only got 10 bulbs for now for $60, so ween we are dry camping we can use the LED's and when camping with hookups, we can use the incandensent ones as well as the LED's.

One solution if the LED is not bright enough, is replace the single bulb light fixture with a 2 bulb light fixture. You can get them from Camping World for less than $10 each. Installation should be simple, unscrew the old fixture, disconnect the wires and rewire to the new fixture and screw it to the ceiling.

I found the LED's would not work in 2 of my ceiling fixtures. it turns out they were wired backwards, so I just had to swop the wires and it then worked fine.

TheViking

Haven't done the whole inside/outside LED mods yet.  But I plan to replace all the exterior running, taillights, porchlight, etc, as well as interior lights.  I do use LED's for camp markers and such, goes alot easier on your batteries.

 

drkminwa

Quote from: waveryI installed my new LED lights........I must say....I'm not impressed with the brightness. They're OK. I think it will just take a little getting used to.

We definitely had to turn on every light in the camper while working in there. Even at that, I can run every light with less draw than one of the old style.

OK I'm lost and confused with all this info! I have 2 fixtures, 2 1156 bulbs in each fixture in my PUP. Will 4 of the 19 LED's likely be similar light output in lumens? Should I go for 4 of the 24 LED bulbs?

Thanks for so much more than I thought I would ever know about LED's!

austinado16

Quote from: drkminwaOK I'm lost and confused with all this info! I have 2 fixtures, 2 1156 bulbs in each fixture in my PUP. Will 4 of the 19 LED's likely be similar light output in lumens? Should I go for 4 of the 24 LED bulbs?

Thanks for so much more than I thought I would ever know about LED's!

You need 2 of the 9LED Super Brites at $22ea and buy a couple of the $.25ea sheets of 3M brand double sided tape when you place your order.

The 9LED version produces more light than the 24 or 36 LED version.

//www.superbriteleds.com