Tow Questions

[austinado16]

lol......love how some people have nothing better to do than poke other's in the eyeball from behind the safety of a keyboard.  And this from the guy spouting about god and religion.  Go figure.

Here's a little test you can perform in the privacy of your own home:  Try opening a door in your home by pushing on the door with one finger.  Do your first attempt with your finger about 1" away from the hinged side of the door.  Do your second attempt with your finger all the way over at the door handle side of the door.  Since both attempts are being done by the same person, you can say that the same horsepower is being applied.  The only thing that you're changing is the "moment arm" also known as torque.  The more torque something can apply, the more work it can do for the same horsepower.

Get online and watch the guy who drag races the electric datsun up at the Portland International Raceway and watch how he wins every single race with a huge margin, even against super high horsepower competition.  Why does he win?  Because an electric motor produces maximum torque at zero rpm.  So while everyone else is waiting for their horsepower to spool up all that engine mass, transmission mass, driveline mass, differential mass and wheel/tire mass, he's already at maximum torque and transfering all that power to the road.

[wavery]

ronerjones,

You're a trouble maker...... :J

But your idea for a TV is fine..... :p

[austinado16]

ronerjones,

You're a trouble maker...... :J

But your idea for a TV is fine..... :p

From www.new-cars.com:
'03 Tundra with 3.4L V-6
9.6:1 Compression ok'd for 87octane fuel
190hp @ 4,800rpm
220lb-ft torque @3,600rpm

Might help you compare with Fly's specs and what he tows.

[wavery]

From www.new-cars.com:
'03 Tundra with 3.4L V-6
9.6:1 Compression ok'd for 87octane fuel
190hp @ 4,800rpm
220lb-ft torque @3,600rpm

Might help you compare with Fly's specs and what he tows.

HMMMMMMMMM!!!! It would be interesting to see a torque curve chart on that engine. My guess would be that at 2500RPM (where you need it most while towing) the torque may be down around 170-190#.

The newer Tundra has a different engine:
Engine type   V-6  
Engine displacement   241 cu.in.  
Engine horsepower   236-hp @ 5,200 rpm  
Engine torque   266 lbs.-ft. @ 4,000 rpm  
 
It's max torque is still at an awfully high RPM but I would bet that it has plenty of torque at 2500-2800RPM to do the job.

Dual overhead cam engines seem to develop torque early.

[ronerjones]

WOW ask a simple question and now I'm a trouble maker. Thanks for all of the commentary I think I have learned something, just not quite sure what. I am down in South Florida so the majority of my driving is just above sea level, I don't think I have to worry much about the altitude decreasing performance. Still have not had much luck deciding on a TV. I'll let you all know what I decide on, Hell maybe I just keep good old trusty till she dies.

[wavery]

WOW ask a simple question and now I'm a trouble maker. Thanks for all of the commentary I think I have learned something, just not quite sure what. I am down in South Florida so the majority of my driving is just above sea level, I don't think I have to worry much about the altitude decreasing performance. Still have not had much luck deciding on a TV. I'll let you all know what I decide on, Hell maybe I just keep good old trusty till she dies.

I think that you know that I was just kidding..... :p

Heck, in Florida the highest thing that you have to climb is a freeway overpass. You could tow your PU with a bicycle and a good pair of thick sole sneekers (for stopping)..........with the proper GCWR, of course.... :sombraro:

[AustinBoston]

Holy cow Austin.............give it a rest....... :eyecrazy:

Holy cow Austin?  I count 7 inflamatory statements from austinado, and 3 from me.  The fact is his first post was rather condescending, and he's gone down from there.

Have a nice day all.

Austin

[austinado16]

You sir, crack me up.

I've been on this forum for just over 2 years, and you stand out among everyone who posts here, as the only person who routinely challenges everyone about everything.  Rarely are you complimentary and if you are, it's not without some condescending remark.  You poke at people until you get a rise out of them, and then come back crying about how you've been abused.  I know of no other person here who acts the way you do.  I mean really, counting inflamatory statements?  Do you not have a life?


If you felt there was some condescending tone to my statement that torque wins races, horsepower sells cars........then all I have to say is, you need to find some place where your ego is stroked routinely so you can feel good about yourself.  You may not find that here, since this is a forum about pop-up camping.

[coach]

I always heard  - torque gets ya goin', horses keep ya goin'

[austinado16]

I always heard  - torque gets ya goin', horses keep ya goin'

Ooh, I like that one!

[AustinBoston]

torque wins races, horsepower sells cars

Is not condiscending.  But:

[class]
This is a neat little saying, "Torque wins races, horsepower sells cars."

Just ask folks at Audi who continue to win at the 24hr Le Mans year after year with their diesel powered race cars.

Torque is what makes power
[/class]

is condiscending, and I think you know it, which is why you didn't quote the whole post.  If the roles had been reversed, you would have flipped your lid (like you did in your second post).  I did not.

What cracks me up is that you are acting just like me and even using some of the methods I've used, but don't recognize it.

Austin

[brainpause]

I also once had an S10 with the 4.3L V6. GREAT engine. Low end torque. Could smoke tires for 200-300 feet (if you wanted to).

Too bad I had a lot of differential/rear end troubles, or I would have kept that truck a lot longer than 68000 miles.

Larry

[austinado16]

Could smoke tires for 200-300 feet (if you wanted to).

Too bad I had a lot of differential/rear end troubles, or I would have kept that truck a lot longer than 68000 miles.

Larry

:rolleyes: mmm......I wonder why the differential kept failing  

[flyfisherman]

:rolleyes: mmm......I wonder why the differential kept failing  

Yeah ... darndest thing!

[brainpause]

:rolleyes: mmm......I wonder why the differential kept failing  

Ok, I did it ONCE, so that's the reason I said "if you wanted it to." I had some teens trying to scratch off a black mark in a parking lot, and the longest one was about 8 feet long. I had to show 'em how it was done.

That 4.3L V6 roared to life and even surprised me. We measured the black mark, and it was over 200' long. They said I won.

I think the problem was that I towed a trailer a couple hundred miles that weighed no telling how much, but I soon sold it. That didn't help.

Aside from those two things, I actually did take very good care of it. I would expect a truck to last through that relatively small amount of abuse, given what others had been doing to trucks regularly.

Larry