High wall vs Low wall

[Jim K in PA]

We really enjoy our Viking low wall camper.  If there were anything to improve upon, it would be the galley and couch/dinette setup.  With that in mind, we are considering upgrading to a high wall version, perhaps before our delayed big trip to Yellowstone next year.

My question is, does the high wall design really make setup easier and/or faster?  I am just talking about the camper now, of course, not all the ancilliary setup details.  We don't really need a slide out dinette or two king beds, but that may be all that is available in a high wall, as most seem pretty high-end.

We are going to Hershey this fall for the big show to check out what is available.  Viking apparently no longer sells high wall versions, but we may go with a nice clean used unit depending on price.

Thanks for any input & opinions for those that have made the transition.

(no, we have no interest in going to the "dark side" . . . )

[AZCAMPPINAL]

Think my Quicksilver is a highwall, very happy with it.

[Topflight]

When we bought our Flagstaff 625D we also looked at the Flagstaff 625-D Highwall.  The highwall had more cabinet space, a built in microwave oven, more drawers and of course, you don't have to raise or flip the galley.  It also had a metal plate on the front of the camper box to reduce the chance of damage from rocks.
We decided to get the regular 625D which has the swing galley and only takes a second to raise or lower (no flipping like our previous PUPs).  It has walls that are a little higher than our previous campers and even though our TV is a F-150, I can't see over the top when driving because of the A/C.
Consider weight (they do have the glide out and more cabinets).  The power lift is nice on both 625Ds.

[wavery]

Our TM is a high wall. It has many advantages, "flipping" the galley is minor.

The big thing to us is the larger fridge and increased cabinet space. However with the stationary galley, you have fewer plumbing issues too.

Everything is a compromise with RVs. With the high-wall version, you have slightly more wind resistance and probably a little more weight. After-all, the entire concept of a PU is low wind resistance, light weight and easy storage (ability to store in the garage).

[Jim K in PA]

Thanks for all the input.  The engineer in me likes not having the water supply, drain and propane supply lines reorganized every time we pop up or down.  The HW also adds a nice amount of storage to the camper, which unfortunately also turns into weight.  My wife is very keen on the idea of the upgrade, so this is probably going to happen in the next 6-8 months.

Wayne - I think your Trailmanor might even be a better option - I would just miss the tenting and open feel of the Pup.  Hopefully there will be some Trailmanors at Hershey.

[wavery]

Thanks for all the input.  The engineer in me likes not having the water supply, drain and propane supply lines reorganized every time we pop up or down.  The HW also adds a nice amount of storage to the camper, which unfortunately also turns into weight.  My wife is very keen on the idea of the upgrade, so this is probably going to happen in the next 6-8 months.

Wayne - I think your Trailmanor might even be a better option - I would just miss the tenting and open feel of the Pup.  Hopefully there will be some Trailmanors at Hershey.

You're absolutely right. The TM has more of a hard side TT feel than a PU feel. I do miss being able to lay in bed with the bunk end window open and watching the ocean when beach camping. The windows in the TM are pretty big but the PU windows give you the feeling of being outdoors. The view from our galley table is also limited. However, we tend to eat outside most of the time anyway.

The upside to the TM is setting up. It is SOOOOOO much easier, faster and less problematic. It also has a full size, hard wall, bathroom with a tub/shower and toilet. It does have more storage but we don't use it all.

I don't miss the roof sway and noise when the wind blows and the TM is very well insulated.

Like I said before.......RVing is all about compromises. Our main thing is that we must have a camper that we can park inside the garage. We'd prefer a TT but the TM offers us the best compromise.

[RickWest]

We replaced our lowside Fleetwood Williamsburg with a 2009 Niagara in January and we love it.  The highside allows lots of counter space and cabinets/storage.  It also resolved issues that I had with the Williamsburg.  It has a double sink that actually drains, a larger and hardside shower, a hot water tank with an on/off switch and electronic ignition, and direct-dump black/gray water tanks.  Instaed of messing with two hoses, only one four inch is required.  Real nice!  IT is big and roomy, but it also rather heavy, though the hitch weight is not so bad.

[Jim K in PA]

Thanks for your input Rick, and welcome to PUT!

The weight issue is a big consideration.  I am not wild about having a bathroom in the camper, and therefore not wild about the room and weight penalty it imposes.

We'll look at them closely in September at Hershey.

[firescout]

...With the high-wall version, you have slightly more wind resistance and probably a little more weight...

I'd say a LOT more weight.  My wife liked the high-wall trailers, but we needed to keep the GTW under 3K lbs.  I don't think there's a high-wall less than 4K gross.  With our 2406, I think we got the best size/layout/equipment for the weight.

[wavery]

I'd say a LOT more weight.  My wife liked the high-wall trailers, but we needed to keep the GTW under 3K lbs.  I don't think there's a high-wall less than 4K gross.  With our 2406, I think we got the best size/layout/equipment for the weight.

You're right. That is one light trailer. Have you ever weighed it?

Our TrailManor weighs in at just over 4000# on the scales.

[firescout]

You're right. That is one light trailer. Have you ever weighed it?

Our TrailManor weighs in at just over 4000# on the scales.

We recently bought the trailer new.  I'm going to try and weigh it after loading up for our trip this next week.