Apple Season Julian - William Heise Oct 1-3, 2010

[dkutz]

We Have 9 out of 20 spots filled....
 
FILL UP THE LOOP!!

[wavery]

We Have 9 out of 20 spots filled....
 
FILL UP THE LOOP!!

I'm still working on my brother and daughter.

[Dee4j]

ok if I left Santa Ana at 3 pm what would be my ETA do you think??

[dkutz]

google says 2.5 hours from our house in Costa mesa, so for you from santa ana, probably 1 hr 15 minutes.

[hatlet]

google says 2.5 hours from our house in Costa mesa, so for you from santa ana, probably 1 hr 15 minutes.

THE LAST TIME WE WENT IT TOOK 3 HRS:yikes:

[Hoagie]

ok if I left Santa Ana at 3 pm what would be my ETA do you think??

That kind of depends upon what time you are leaving more than anything else. We've left Orange at 3pm on a Friday and it took over 90 minutes to get to the Cajalco exit off I-15 South. (We were heading for Lake Hemet.) The southbound I-15 now closely resembles the eastbound 91 traffic-wise every evening. This per some friends that drive it every afternoon. They live for the 91 Express, but you can't use that with a trailer.

[mrsoreo57]

That kind of depends upon what time you are leaving more than anything else. We've left Orange at 3pm on a Friday and it took over 90 minutes to get to the Cajalco exit off I-15 South. (We were heading for Lake Hemet.) The southbound I-15 now closely resembles the eastbound 91 traffic-wise every evening. This per some friends that drive it every afternoon. They live for the 91 Express, [COLOR="Red"]but you can't use that with a trailer[/COLOR].

  You don't know Dee very well.....

[Dee4j]

That kind of depends upon what time you are leaving more than anything else. We've left Orange at 3pm on a Friday and it took over 90 minutes to get to the Cajalco exit off I-15 South. (We were heading for Lake Hemet.) The southbound I-15 now closely resembles the eastbound 91 traffic-wise every evening. This per some friends that drive it every afternoon. They live for the 91 Express, but you can't use that with a trailer.

since I'm already in Santa Ana I thought the 5 south and cut across?

Dieter isn't that the way you would go??

I don't do the 91 after 1pm on fridays :banghead:

[dkutz]

yeah we would do the 5, probably the toll road to save some time

[wavery]

OH [SIZE="6"][COLOR="RoyalBlue"]WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!![/COLOR][/SIZE] :%
How'd you like to be coming from West LA....:eyecrazy:

You guys have it easy:rolleyes:. We just start getting out of traffic once we get south of the 5/405 interchange. From there, it's EZ going, IMO....:p

[Hoagie]

You don't know Dee very well.....

Every once in a while I see someone towing in the carpool lanes or express lanes. Hopefully, not Dee. Usually I see people towing boats, jetskis, or contractors with a small utility trailer. Hey, it's their ticket. And it's going to be a hefty fine if they're caught. Although there is nothing in the vehicle code that specifically forbids towing in carpool lanes (the last time I checked) it is against the vehicle code to tow in the Number 1 Lane, that being the normal traffic lane closest to the  center divider. With most carpool lanes it is impossible to get to them without crossing the Number 1 lane.

[hatlet]

When i checked years ago, I was told that you can't have 3 axels in  the carpool lane, also, you can tow a trailer in the 1st 2 lanes from the right, reguardless of how may lanes there are.

[JohnandLeann]

oops good to know about that diamond lane.  guess i had better stay way from there in the future while towing

[wavery]

In California, all (3 or more axle) trucks and vehicles towing trailers must stay in the far-right lane unless passing. When passing, they can drive in the second lane from the right only and must return to the far right lane after passing.

The CHP will not mess with you if you stick to the #1 or #2 lanes from the right. If you drive in the carpool lane and get caught, there are several violations that may be levied. Speeding (if driving over 55), impeding traffic (if driving 55 or under) and illegal lane change. Any violation in a carpool lane comes with an automatic $341 fine plus any additional violation fines. It could easily cost a driver $600 to drive in the carpool lane, especially if that driver argues his case to the cop as, "It doesn't say that I can't drive in the carpool lane". That's called, "Additional $300 stupidity fine". :p

[Hoagie]

In California, all (3 or more axle) trucks and vehicles towing trailers must stay in the far-right lane unless passing. When passing, they can drive in the second lane from the right only and must return to the far right lane after passing.
 
The CHP will not mess with you if you stick to the #1 or #2 lanes from the right. If you drive in the carpool lane and get caught, there are several violations that may be levied. Speeding (if driving over 55), impeding traffic (if driving 55 or under) and illegal lane change. Any violation in a carpool lane comes with an automatic $341 fine plus any additional violation fines. It could easily cost a driver $600 to drive in the carpool lane, especially if that driver argues his case to the cop as, "It doesn't say that I can't drive in the carpool lane". That's called, "Additional $300 stupidity fine". :p

And those numbers (fines) are before any local "surcharges" and "fees" get tacked on. It's been reported how a cell phone violation (talking on a cell phone while driving) which has a nominal $20 fine can easily add up to $150 or more. Same thing applies for other tickets. The fees can and will more than double the ticket amount. And that's before your insurance company gets notified.