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Started by Civil_War_Buff, Jan 07, 2003, 09:03 AM

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dee106

Sep 28, 2003, 07:05 PM
 [:(]how much snow can a roof hold? boy we are getting socked with snow this year! we got a year round site so we can do some extra weekends, and every weekend we have been hit with snow, hail, sleet, heavy rain. this is cramping our life style, and it s bumming me out. Can t wait for spring![: (]

Civil_War_Buff

#1
Jan 07, 2003, 09:03 AM
 dee106I hear this term " snow"  used a lot on this site, what exactly IS that? [&:]  Here on the West Coast, it was mid 70 s yesterday, and looks like a repeat today.  I don t want to make anyone feel bad, and we assure you that the Sun still shines!!! [:)]
 
 OK, enough of that rubbing it in stuff!! dee106, I was told that the roof on my TM will withstand 1300 lbs. evenly distributed across the roof, but I certainly don t want to test it!![:o]
 
 I have seen that the East has been geting hammered lately, stay dry and stay warm, and Spring will be here before you know it...till then..there  is us!!![:D][8D]
 
 Happy (Dreamin  about) Campin  <><

SactoCampers

#2
Jan 07, 2003, 12:25 PM
 dee106Just for fun I ran a few calculations and came up with a VERY general number, so use this information at your own risk. Base on information from the following site
 
 http://www.extension.umn.edu/distribution/naturalresources/DD6891.html
 
 and using Civil_War_Buff s roof claim of 1300 lbs across the entire roof, here is what I have found:
 
 1.) CWB has about 192 Sq Ft of roof surface (24 ft length X ~8 ft wide)
 2.) From the website above, water per inch of depth has a weight of 5.2 lbs per sq ft, and compacted snow is about 20% of that, or, 1.04 lbs per sq ft.
 3.) Since CWB said his roof can hold 1300 lbs of snow total, his roof is rated at about 6 lbs per sq ft (1300/192)
 4.) Assuming you have compact snow at 20% the weight of water (very light snow would be 5%, ice would be 100%) CWBs TrailManor could handle about 6 inches of compact snow before he would need to clear it.
 
 Your Starcraft s roof may be more or less sturdy, but you may want to keep these general figures in mind when deciding when to sweep the snow off your roof. Call Starcraft and ask them, for more specifics.

Red neff Barchetta

#3
Jan 07, 2003, 04:02 PM
 dee106
QuoteJust for fun I ran a few calculations
Brian, you re weird if you think that s fun!
 
 I thought snow was all that white stuff piled up on Al s desk in " Scarface" .

Civil_War_Buff

#4
Jan 07, 2003, 07:05 PM
 Red neff Barchetta
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  Red neff Barchetta
 
 
QuoteJust for fun I ran a few calculations
Brian, you re weird if you think that s fun!
 
 

 Neff,
 
 I had the very same thought, but I chaulked it up to a slow day in the gov t. offices if you know what I mean!![:D]
 
 JUST FOR FUN I RAN A FEW CALCULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!ROFL[;)][;)][;)]
 
 
 Just for FUN I ate a Snickers Bar too!! Or was that a 3 Musketeers?
 
 Happy Campin  <><

NightOwl

#5
Jan 07, 2003, 10:52 PM
 dee106Only a bunch of Californians can go from intricate snow calculations to a Snickers bar without missing a beat![;)]  
 
 Last year we had a really nice  SNOW and about 3 inches piled up on the roof  of the TM (I leave it up  and open all year long)  It was gorgeous sitting there surrounded by its unbroken  blanket of  pure white.  And, just like Bill Hulsey promised, it NEVER LEAKED A DROP![:)]
 
 

NE_Tmanor

#6
Jan 08, 2003, 09:20 AM
 dee106The snow limit of 6 inches must be purely theoretical because I have about 14-16 inches of snow on my TrailManor now and I ve had as much as 2 feet in the past.[:D][:D]
 
 The TrailManor dealer from New England has specifics about snow weight on their webpage under FAQ at:
 
 [link]http://www.mcdcorp.com/FAQ.htm[/link]
 
 Their webpage states, " The roof is designed to carry the weight of up to 3 feet of snow (3,000 lbs.)."
 
 CWB " getting hammered"  is a relative term. I just think of it as a normal winter. I believe we ve gotten about 30 inches of snow this season but that pales in comparison to the winter when we got 110 inches. Also, I m one of those strange individuals who actually likes the snow. Nothing more enjoyable than drinking hot chocolate, eating chocolate chip cookies and watching the snow pile up from a Nor easter.[:)]

SactoCampers

#7
Jan 08, 2003, 09:49 AM
 NE_Tmanor
QuoteORIGINAL:  NE_Tmanor
 
 The snow limit of 6 inches must be purely theoretical because I have about 14-16 inches of snow on my TrailManor now and I ve had as much as 2 feet in the past.[:D][:D]
 
 

 You must have had the 5% water density snow because no way my calculations could be wrong, right?[;)][;)]
 
 Or maybe Larry was giving us bad info! [:o][&:][8D]
 
 Actually, in the northeast you guys get pretty wet snow like here in California. Now Utah, that s a different story. You could probably pile ten feet of Utah snow on a Trailmanor [;)].
 
 Rick,
 
 Nice setup by the way. How does the minivan do towing it? Which drivetrain do you have?
 
 

Civil_War_Buff

#8
Jan 08, 2003, 10:22 AM
 SactoCampers
QuoteOr maybe Larry was giving us bad info!    

 I clearly stated that " I was told"  that the load bearing capacity of the roof was 1300#  It is NOT my info.  I would hope that Brian could do a " few calculations"  to determine the true load carrying capacity of the TrailManor.[: (][8D]
 
 I can walk on the roof of mine, which would put a load of ~200# per square foot on the roof, but I doubt that this would be a adequate means for determining the load capacity of the roof.  
 
 Besides, what has this got to do with food?  (that was for you Elisa)!
 
 Happy Campin  <><

NE_Tmanor

#9
Jan 08, 2003, 01:45 PM
 SactoCampersSorry, if I offend anyone. I didn t mean to. I guess I didn t get off to a good start on my first post on the new board.
 
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  SactoCampers
 Actually, in the northeast you guys get pretty wet snow like here in California. Now Utah, that s a different story. You could probably pile ten feet of Utah snow on a Trailmanor [;)].
 

 We do mostly get wet snow but the last storm we did get the light powdery snow, much nicer to shovel.
 
 
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  SactoCampers
 Nice setup by the way. How does the minivan do towing it? Which drivetrain do you have?
 
 

 The minivan does a nice job towing. Only on rare occassions do I wish I had a little more power (like rush hour in Boston). It s hard to be an aggressive New England driver with this set up but I guess that s a good thing.[;)] Four camping seasons and over 8,000 miles, I m still happy. Though I wouldn t want this set up to tow over the mountains of CA. We just have wee bumps for mountains compared to yours.
 
 Regarding " which drivetrain?"  Duh... I don t know.
 
 

SactoCampers

#10
Jan 08, 2003, 02:44 PM
 dee106
QuoteSorry, if I offend anyone. I didn t mean to. I guess I didn t get off to a good start on my first post on the new board.

 No, no, Rick. We re just playin  around!
 
 
QuoteRegarding " which drivetrain?"  Duh... I don t know.

 It s my fault. I probably should have phrased the question differently. I meant to ask which Engine you have and if you have the tow package. Reason being I have a 98 Town & Country with 3.8 V6 and tow package and I secretly envy the TrailManors.

dee106

#11
Jan 08, 2003, 04:00 PM
 dee106thanks everyone, well so far so good it s still standing waiting for us, no leaks, or bucking, max on it at any one time was about 8 inches. the sun hits it daily so it melts quicker so with two days it was melting down. husband had fun making tracks in the snow[;)] it was like kids making snow angels[:D] two months to go til we can camp again![:)][/size]

NE_Tmanor

#12
Jan 08, 2003, 08:25 PM
 SactoCampers
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  SactoCampers
 
 I meant to ask which Engine you have and if you have the tow package. Reason being I have a 98 Town & Country with 3.8 V6 and tow package and I secretly envy the TrailManors.
 

 I have the 3.3 V6 and the tow package. No doubt, the 3.8 would do a better job.
 
 The Grand Voyager does a good job towing the TM2619. But if I had to do it over, I would have gone with the larger tow vehicle something with a 5000lbs towing capacity and the TM3023.

Civil_War_Buff

#13
Jan 09, 2003, 09:15 AM
 NE_Tmanor
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  NE_Tmanor
 
 
 
 The Grand Voyager does a good job towing the TM2619. But if I had to do it over, I would have gone with the larger tow vehicle something with a 5000lbs towing capacity and the TM3023.
 

 My Blazer has a 4.3 L and towing capacity of 5000 lbs.  It handles the 2720 just fine (with WDH). If I had it to do all over again, I would have gotten the 2720SL.
 
 NE_Tmanor, I am glad that the snow is not posing any problem for you, I was pretty sure it wouldn t.  I think that you said you store yours UP right?  I wish I could do that, but my driveway is just a little over 21ft. long, and keeping it in the driveway is the reason that I didn t go any larger than the 2720.
 
 Happy " thinkin "  about Campin  <><

NE_Tmanor

#14
Jan 09, 2003, 10:50 AM
 Civil_War_Buff
 
QuoteORIGINAL:  Civil_War_Buff
 I think that you said you store yours UP right
 

 Elisa stores her TM up and open. I keep my TM down and closed during the winter because I may need to clear the snow off it. It is much easier to do closed.
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