RE: An Open Letter To The Hollywood Bunch from Charlie Daniels

[4Sharps2Camp]

 
An Open Letter To The Hollywood Bunch
 
 Ok let?s just say for a moment you bunch of pampered, overpaid,
 unrealistic children had your way and the U.S.A. didn?t go into Iraq.
 
 Let?s say that you really get your way and we destroy all our nuclear
 weapons and stick daisies in our gun barrels and sit around with some
 white wine and cheese and pat ourselves on the back, so proud of what
 we?ve done for world peace.
 
 Let?s say that we cut the military budget to just enough to keep the
 National Guard on hand to help out with floods and fires.
 
 Let?s say that we close down our military bases all over the world and
 bring the troops home, increase our foreign aid and drop all the trade
 sanctions against everybody.
 
 I suppose that in your fantasy world this would create a utopian world
 where everybody would live in peace. After all, the great monster, the
 United States of America, the cause of all the world?s trouble would
 have disbanded it?s horrible military and certainly all the other
 countries of the world would follow suit.
 
 After all, they only arm themselves to defend their countries from the
 mean old U.S.A.
 
 Why you bunch of pitiful, hypocritical, idiotic, spoiled mugwumps.
 get your head out of the sand and smell the Trade Towers burning.
 Do you think that a trip to Iraq by Sean Penn did anything but encourage
 a wanton murderer to think that the people of the U.S.A. didn?t have the
 nerve or the guts to fight him?
 
 Barbra Streisand?s fanatical and hateful rantings about George Bush
 makes about as much sense as Michael Jackson hanging a baby over a
 railing.
 
 You people need to get out of Hollywood once in a while and get out into
 the real world. You?d be surprised at the hostility you would find out
 here. Stop in at a truck stop and tell an overworked, long distance truck
 driver that you don?t think Saddam Hussein is doing anything wrong.
 
 Tell a farmer with a couple of sons in the military that you think the
 United States has no right to defend itself.
 
 Go down to Baxley, Georgia and hold an anti-war rally and see what the
 folks down there think about you.
 
 You people are some of the most disgusting examples of a waste of
 protoplasm I?ve ever had the displeasure to hear about.
 
 Sean Penn, you?re a traitor to the United States of America. You gave
 aid and comfort to the enemy. How many American lives will your
 little, ?fact finding trip? to Iraq cost? You encouraged Saddam to
 think that we didn?t have the stomach for war.
 
 You people protect one of the most evil men on the face of this earth
 and won?t lift a finger to save the life of an unborn baby. Freedom of
 choice you say?
 
 Well I?m going to exercise some freedom of choice of my own. If I see
 any of your names on a marquee, I?m going to boycott the movie. I will
 completely stop going to movies if I have to. In most cases it
 certainly wouldn?t be much of a loss.
 
 You scoff at our military whose boots you?re not even worthy to shine.
 They go to battle and risk their lives so ingrates like you can live in
 luxury.
 
 The day of reckoning is coming when you will be faced with the
 undeniable truth that the war against Saddam Hussein is the war on
 terrorism.
 
 America is in imminent danger. You?re either for her or against her.
 There is no middle ground.
 
 I think we all know where you stand.
 
 What do you think?
 
 God Bless America
 
 Charlie Daniels
 

[Ernhrts3n8]

 4Sharps2Camp
Thanks for the letter!  I must say that I totally agree with what Charlie has said.  I even went to his website to verify that this was actually true and I am proud to say that it was.  Thank you Charlie Daniels!

[Acts 2:38 girl]

 4Sharps2Camp
I really can t stand Hollywood, they have no clue.  Thanks for posting this!

[SactoCampers]

 4Sharps2Camp
Regardless how one feels about the war, what makes the opinion of Nashville more relevant than Hollywood?

[Acts 2:38 girl]

 4Sharps2Camp
Nothing, especially after seeing the Dixie Chicks (although they come from Texas, they do represent Nashville also) and all thier nonsense first!  
 Personally, anybody who is famous has a swelled opinion of themselves and thier beliefs.

[SactoCampers]

 Acts 2:38 girl

ORIGINAL:  Acts 2:38 girl
 
 Nothing, especially after seeing the Dixie Chicks (although they come from Texas, they do represent Nashville also) and all thier nonsense first!  
 Personally, anybody who is famous has a swelled opinion of themselves and thier beliefs.
 

 Again, regardless of one s personal views, for an argument to be consistent why are we praising Nashville artists and entertainers for voicing their opinion and chastizing Hollywood for doing so?
 
 Shouldn t both entities be able to voice their opinion without any of us feeling threatened about it?  Shouldn t an entertainer s intelligence, or lack thereof speak for itself?

[Ernhrts3n8]

 4Sharps2Camp
Well I personally believe that Charlie Daniels is much more down to earth than the Hollywood bunch.  At least Charlies Daniels sings songs of praise for this great country and stands up for her no matter what anyone else thinks.  At least most Nashville stars are very pro America, and most of them realize that is the average Joe that are supporting our troops whether or not they personally believe in the war.  I just wish that people would stop bashing the President and this country in our time when we should be supporting our troops.  After the war they can bash the President all they want, right now we need to stand together in support of our leader. Just my opinion.  May God bless all of our troops in and out of harms way and may they come home safely and soon!

[wiininkwe]

 4Sharps2Camp
Sorry, but I agree with Sacto.  It s just so inconsistant to insist that the voices heard from one direction are good, and the ones heard from another direction shouldn t be tolerated.    It s as if somehow, someone is saying, " Your opinion is only worthwhile if it s the same as mine."    Worse yet, I m getting a message from lots of people that the only real Patriots in this country are the ones whose opinions match that same bunch.   That s just not true.  One can love this country, even while not agreeing with the current events that are happening.  It may be that the reason they are disagreeing is that they DO love the country.  
 T

[SactoCampers]

 wiininkwe
I just wanted to clarify that the point I m making is in regard to flawed logic, not a revelation of my personal opinion on the war. That I will keep to myself. If you believe in free speech you believe in it for everybody at any time under any circumstance and are not insecure of an opposing view.

[wiininkwe]

 4Sharps2Camp
Very well said, Sacto, and I was aware that this was most likely your intent in this thread.  Your point was exactly what I was agreeing with.  I won t get into the pros and cons of this current action either, just wanted to say that all opinions are valid, and some thought is usually given before one makes up their mind what direction their opinions will take.
 Just wondering why Charlie Daniels would have more credibility and expertise in these matters than the Dixie Chicks?
 T

[Ernhrts3n8]

 4Sharps2Camp
I am not saying that Charlie Daniels has more credence than the Dixie Chicks.  What I am saying is that at least he is defending our leader and troops at this time of conflict.  I know alot of people do not agree with the President, but how do you think it makes the troops out in field feel knowing that people are bashing their leader and their efforts.  I am sure that most don t want to be there, but when they joined the armed forces they made the decision to do what their leader instructs them to do.  Whether we agree with the war or not or with the President or not, the important thing is to support out troops, and I feel that the Hollywood Bunch is not doing that.  Let s just all hope and pray that they come home safely and soon.  Just my honest opinion for what it s worth.

[SactoCampers]

 Ernhrts3n8

ORIGINAL:  Ernhrts3n8
 
 I am not saying that Charlie Daniels has more credence than the Dixie Chicks.  What I am saying is that at least he is defending our leader and troops at this time of conflict.  I know alot of people do not agree with the President, but how do you think it makes the troops out in field feel knowing that people are bashing their leader and their efforts.  I am sure that most don t want to be there, but when they joined the armed forces they made the decision to do what their leader instructs them to do.  Whether we agree with the war or not or with the President or not, the important thing is to support out troops, and I feel that the Hollywood Bunch is not doing that.  Let s just all hope and pray that they come home safely and soon.  Just my honest opinion for what it s worth.
 

 Note: The following points do not reveal my position on the war:
 
 I m not quite sure I understand your point now. In your previous post you said people shouldn t be bashing the President. I ll take the libery of restating that (with your approval, of course) as you believe that segment of the population who does, should not disagree with administration policy during wartime.
 
 It seems you re implying people can disagree with that policy, but not publicly, because it indicates a lack of support for the troops. From the demonstrations I ve seen, I have not seen or heard any reports of war dissenters not supporting the troops. Conversely, I don t think you have to worry too much about public support as all the polls indicate a 70% or greater public approval, which is outstanding. The reports of dissent I ve seen on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. has been in opposition to the policy, not the troops. This is true with Hollywood too. I may not agree with some things Hollywood or Nashville says, and I may not believe either entertainment entity presents thorough and well-articulated arguments, but I don t think it s fair to say they don t support the troops whose lives are in danger. If I m wrong, then they truly don t grasp the complexity of this issue.
 
 So I can t help but see circular logic in your argument. If we automatically tie opposition with administration policy to support of the troops, we are in effect advocating that people not exercise freedom of speech.   They re opinions. Why shouldn t they be expressed in a country which celebrates that right. People should be encouraged to debate national policy rationally and intelligently, and that in itself should have no impact on troop morale. Those on both sides of the fence in the entertainment industry (and usenet ) I think have missed that subtlety. I m inclined to believe those on either side who rant have not attempted to look at the issue through the other s lens.
 
 So I hope that, for the sake of the troops, they aren t fighting to defend our nation which includes our " now conditional"  freedom of speech. Because If our freedoms are conditional, then they are hardly worth fighting for.
 
 I m enjoying the discussion....
 
 

[4Sharps2Camp]

 4Sharps2Camp
The posted letter from Charlie Daniels was not meant to say that his opinion was any better than any one else. Only that a lot of points he was making, I agree with.

[SactoCampers]

 4Sharps2Camp

 

ORIGINAL:  4Sharps2Camp
 
 The posted letter from Charlie Daniels was not meant to say that his opinion was any better than any one else. Only that a lot of points he was making, I agree with.
 

 
 Point well taken.

[Ernhrts3n8]

 4Sharps2Camp
Sacato,
 
 All I am saying is that when we are in war times I do not think it is right to bash the leader of our country.  I am sure that service men and women that hear this take it to heart.  I may be wrong, but this is just my opinion.  I totally believe in freedom of speech, but I guess that I am just trying to show our troops and our leader that we are there for them as a nation during war times.  Unfortunately, many of these peace demonstrations do turn violent, so I cannot understand their logic either.  I am not trying to dictate when you can and cannot disagree with our leader, I just think in my opinion that during war time it is not the time to do it.  I guess we can agree to disagree.