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RE: Way OT: TAXES (rant)

Started by Cadeuses, Jan 15, 2003, 01:15 PM

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AustinBoston

Sep 28, 2003, 07:05 PM
 I live in Taxachusetts.  Taxachusetts taxes income (income tax), and outgo (sales tax).  In between, there are lots of other taxes.
 
 We tax some roads and bridges, (aka tolls) but not others.
 
 Cities and towns tax property and motor vehicles.  The state limits the tax rate, but there s a loophole.  One piece of real property I have an interest in suddenly tripled in value in three months.   The rate didn t change, just the amount of tax.
 
 We tax medical payments (aka surcharges) to hospitals.  I call this the sick and injured tax.
 
 We tax certain types of alchoholic beverages, and cigarettes.  These are known as sin taxes.
 
 We tax meals.  (Eating tax?)
 
 There s no tax on clothing, unless you spend over $100.  Guess how many people drop that on a trip to Wal-Mart, and don t realize that because all that stuff added up to over $100 that they were taxed.  I call this the dressing tax.
 
 We don t tax food (except meals), but they tried to tax junk food.  Are cough drops candy or medicine?  How about a diabetic that has to cary hard candy with them all the time...is that medicine?
 
 We even have a tax tax (they call it a surtax).  When they first implemented it, you figured out your income tax, then calculated the surcharge and added it to the regular tax.  Now they ve done us the favor of incorporating it into the formulas so we don t see the tax tax, but it s still there.  We voted to repeal it, but it s not gone.
 
 Now we ve added two more:
 
 1) Nursing home patients will be taxed $3500 per year.  I call this is the old and sick tax.  Based on the condition of many nursing home patients, it could also be called the helplessness tax, penniless tax, or defenseless tax.
 
 2) Prescriptions will be taxed $1.30 per prescription or refill.  I call this the general sickness tax.
 
 Both of these taxes are already being collected.
 
 The state tried to tax cell phone users...only out-of-state cell phone users...but the courts stopped them.  They also tried to tax Massachusetts cell phone users when making a cell phone call outside of Mass.  Again, the courts stopped them.
 
 I m sure there are hundreds of other taxes here in Taxachusetts that I ve missed.
 
 I d like to know what kind of stupid, outrageous, or just plain hurtful taxes other people know of.  Hopefully, the politicians won t read this thread and get any ideas from it...
 
 Austin

Cadeuses

#1
Jan 15, 2003, 01:15 PM
 AustinBostonAustin...
 
   Sounds like you just moved to...
 
 
Canada!  [:@]

 We have those and more taxes... and our buck is only worth half of yours![:o]
 
 I ll see your RANT... and raise you two WHINNINGS!
 
 Have yourself a taxfree day!

fivegonefishing

#2
Jan 15, 2003, 03:12 PM
 AustinBostonI have to agree with Cadeuses, there is very little up here that isn t taxed!  Our tax freedom day is sometime in July I think!
 
 We have the GST, a federal tax that is put on basically everything.  Some food and baby products are exempt but it s on any Good like cars, books, smokes, booze, clothes, or Service, yes, even services like hair cuts.  Then we have the PST or Provincial tax that is put on most of everything as well.  In Ontario, both add up to 15%.

Firefyter-Emt

#3
Jan 15, 2003, 08:02 PM
 AustinBostonWell You are very close Austin.. But, the perscription " tax"  is a big snafu right now.. It is really not a tax, and was not supposed to be passed on to consumers.. It was supposed to be put on the pharmacys, now they have put it onto to the people (and even going as far as to say it was a state law telling them they had to) Total BS from them.. It is also 6 months behind, it is really a $.65 fee that is 6 months behind so they have doubled it..
 But I hear you buddy... Sick isn t it!

Miss-Teri

#4
Jan 15, 2003, 08:04 PM
 AustinBostonThe only thing that I know of that we re not taxed on is newspapers.  Lol, we are taxed on the same things you guys are taxed on, plus the things you re not taxed on.  Every type of goods and services are taxed here in the great state of Oklahoma.  [:@]
 

AustinBoston

#5
Jan 16, 2003, 07:55 AM
 Firefyter-Emt
QuoteORIGINAL:  Firefyter-Emt
 Well You are very close Austin.. But, the perscription " tax"  is a big snafu right now.. It is really not a tax, and was not supposed to be passed on to consumers.. It was supposed to be put on the pharmacys, now they have put it onto to the people (and even going as far as to say it was a state law telling them they had to) Total BS from them.. It is also 6 months behind, it is really a $.65 fee that is 6 months behind so they have doubled it..
 But I hear you buddy... Sick isn t it!
 

 FYI...
 
 I am personally tasked with building the software for tracking and collecting this " user fee"  from the pharmacies.  (Talk about lack of job motivation!) No one here is complaining or surprised that the tax is being passed on to consumers.  And it is $1.30 per prescription, despite what you may have heard elsewhere.
 
 Austin

Firefyter-Emt

#6
Jan 16, 2003, 08:07 AM
 AustinBostonI agree, it is a $1.30.. but tht is the $.65 with a $.65 added on top to cover the last 6 months that they were not being charged.. it is supposed to drop to $.65 six months after they started being charged $1.30 (like we have not heard that one before// Remeber the Pike??? LOL) Still stinks though
 However, I will say that we are supposed to be like #36th in the USA for our tax rate... Heck, where is that in Cali. that is going up to like 9% sales tax ??!!

AustinBoston

#7
Jan 16, 2003, 08:14 AM
 Firefyter-Emt
QuoteORIGINAL:  Firefyter-Emt
 .. it is supposed to drop to $.65 six months after they started being charged $1.30 (like we have not heard that one before// Remeber the Pike??? LOL)

 And the surtax and...
 
 There is no such thing as temporary taxes, and no such thing as temporary tolls.
 
 Austin
 

birol

#8
Jan 16, 2003, 10:44 AM
 AustinBostonDo what I am doing, earn no money, then you do not pay half of your taxes which are deducted at source :):):)
 
 Birol the tax hater .....

Giffster

#9
Jan 16, 2003, 03:47 PM
 AustinBostonDon t forget about us business owners...... state unemployment tax, federal unemployment tax, 6% state tax on food items sold...etc etc.  Plus I have to match what my employees put into Federal tax.  They pay $340....I have to pay $340.  Kinda makes ya want to pay " under the table" , but then all the $$ from the shop is then put on your " self-employed"  taxes.  I m screwed either way I guess.
 
 Can we have another Tea Party?
 
 Cheers

Firefyter-Emt

#10
Jan 16, 2003, 11:56 PM
 AustinBostonSad part is how we would not know what to do with all the extra $$ we would have if we could only go BACK to the rate of taxiation we were at when the old Union Jack was flying..

Dayton Dave

#11
Jan 17, 2003, 10:39 AM
 AustinBostonI will trade you one Trafficant for a Kennedy.....  
 
 Me, I like elephants[;)]

campingcop

#12
Jan 19, 2003, 09:51 PM
 AustinBostonThe Tax Poem
 
 Tax his land, tax his wage,
 Tax his bed in which he lays.
 Tax his tractor, tax his mule,
 Teach him taxes is the rule.
 Tax his cow, tax his goat,
 Tax his pants, tax his coat.
 Tax his ties, tax his shirts,
 Tax his work, tax his dirt.
 Tax his chew, tax his smoke,
 Teach him taxes are no joke.
 Tax his car, tax his ass
 Tax the roads he must pass.
 Tax his tobacco, tax his drink,
 Tax him if he tries to think.
 Tax his booze, tax his beers,
 If he cries, tax his tears.
 Tax his bills, tax his gas,
 Tax his notes, tax his cash.
 Tax him good and let him know
 That after taxes, he has no dough.
 If he hollers, tax him more,
 Tax him until he s good and sore.
 Tax his coffin, tax his grave,
 Tax the sod in which he lays.
 Put these words upon his tomb,
 " Taxes drove me to my doom!"
 And when he s gone, we won t relax,
 We ll still be after the inheritance TAX
 
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
 

Gone-Camping

#13
Jan 19, 2003, 11:16 PM
 AustinBostonOddly enough, here in Virginia, we have pretty much the same taxes, at least they don t tax you for groceries (or at least they didn t). About five years ago, the Gov of Va went to the task of eliminating the hated car tax (excise tax), and they have succeeded in passing that law, and started phasing it out over a five year period. The incoming Gov that replaced him put a hold on it, but that was not until four of the five years had gone by, and we pay a much smaller tax burden than before. I m not sure, but I think we don t get a tax this year, at least I haven t seen a bill yet! (fingers are crossed).
 
 Oh, and desipte their efforts to keep the toll on the Va Beach/Norfolk Expressway, they were forced to drop that a few years ago. Ditto for tolls on the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel, and the Downtown tunnel. So some things can be reversed, guess it depends on how loud the people get about it.
 
 So now the state is flat broke, but somehow they manage to struggle along with the billions of dollars they reap in with all their other taxes! Someone above mentioned another " Tea Party"  and I d be glad to join that party!!!!

AustinBoston

#14
Jan 20, 2003, 04:48 PM
 Gone-Camping
QuoteORIGINAL:  Gone-Camping
 Someone above mentioned another " Tea Party"  and I d be glad to join that party!!!!

 Today, they even tax that.  Before you can throw tea in the harbor, you have to pay the environmental impact filing fee!
 
 Austin
 
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