RE: Where do I want to move? Why?

[SactoCampers]

 tim5055
Come to California. You ll be one of the 15 million new people we ll be getting in the next 20 years. [&:]
 
 There s a reason why people keep leaving other states and coming here. Fortunately, camping is one of the better kept secrets.

[Acts 2:38 girl]

 tim5055
Hmmm.. good question!  Do you have to actually live IN the city, or the  burbs?  That can make a big difference.  What does Felicia think?  How about Natasha?  []  Gotta keep those girls happy!  Some areas are definately more expensive, but your paycheck should also reflect the increase in the cost of living.  I love for Atlanta, no - Houston -I think.  What about Boston?  I know the traffic is a pain, but it is a great city!  (I think I might get razzed on for that one!)[]  Good thing you have a few more years to make up your mind!

[Trlrboy]

 tim5055
Skip all of the cities you listed and go to Denver.  The airport is easy to get in and out of, you can afford the real estate once you get about 10 miles out of the city and the camping within 200 miles is the best in America.
 
 For a Texas plug, I d forget Dallas (flat, zero terrain) and Houston (like to sweat much?) and go to Austin.   Somewhat trafficky in the mornings but what city isn t.  The camping around Austin in the hill country is the favorite place for all Texans and the weather is pretty all year round.
 
 Plus you can go camping with me.

[Tim5055]

 tim5055
Well, some of the alternative cities sound interesting but, we only have so many places to pick from (and they all are not available all the time[&:])
 
 I have some friends pushing for Houston, but I m not sure Natasha would like the heat.
 
 I m really afraid of the cost of living in CA.  Plus, you would probably find me touring wine country all the time.

[SactoCampers]

 tim5055

I m really afraid of the cost of living in CA.  Plus, you would probably find me touring wine country all the time.
 

 The cost of living isn t that bad as far as I can tell, it s the cost of housing that s the issue. With the same income, in urban areas plan on living in something smaller for the same cost. With an appropriate salary adjustment, it may not be an issue.
 
 Touring the wine country all the time is a bad thing? [][8D]
 
 BTW, the camping is great here: Lower Cascade range (Mt. Shasta & Lassen), Sierra Nevadas, Siskiyous, Coastal Range, lots of rushing rivers from snow runoff, lakes, reservoirs, redwood forests, pine forests, deserts, chaparral, dry climate, four-season camping, and of course, the Pacific Ocean. You could eliminate all of the points I just made and I would still live here just for the Pacific Ocean. Folks talk about Colorado as being a camping haven, which I agree, but no other state offers the year-round camping variety you ll find here. There are something like 12 different " zones"  in California, each with unique topological and climate characteristics, perfect for camping variety. When it s hot, you can go to the ocean or camp at high elevation.
 
 Besides, we d love to have you as a member of Nick-Neff-Cough. Your website has been a great resource to all popuppers, including us way out here in California.
 

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 tim5055
You should move to NC where taxes are low and the weather is mild.  You don t have to live in the big cities, just pick a rural area outside the big cities and you will find that housing prices are much lower and the taxes are lower, too.  You might like south central NC with an easy commute to Raleigh-Cary area within one hour.  Lots of camping opportunities are at state recreational areas, national forests and private campgrounds.  Not only that but it s 2 1/2 hrs to both the SC and NC beaches plus around 3 hours to the mountains.  No wonder NC is called " variety vacationland."   If you like the down home feel without the big city congestion, I know exactly where you need to be.  I like being able to go to the post office and everyone speaks to you and walking down the sidewalk people are friendly.  Crime is virtually unheard of as the locals see things happening and the person/s capture within 30 minutes.  Schools are good and parents participating in events.  Small town charm and the friendliness of the area.  Yes, come to south central NC.  Let me know when I can show you around![][][][][]

[Tim5055]

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 You should move to NC where taxes are low and the weather is mild.  You don t have to live in the big cities, just pick a rural area outside the big cities and you will find that housing prices are much lower and the taxes are lower, too.  You might like south central NC with an easy commute to Raleigh-Cary area within one hour.  Lots of camping opportunities are at state recreational areas, national forests and private campgrounds.  Not only that but it s 2 1/2 hrs to both the SC and NC beaches plus around 3 hours to the mountains.  No wonder NC is called " variety vacationland."   If you like the down home feel without the big city congestion, I know exactly where you need to be.  I like being able to go to the post office and everyone speaks to you and walking down the sidewalk people are friendly.  Crime is virtually unheard of as the locals see things happening and the person/s capture within 30 minutes.  Schools are good and parents participating in events.  Small town charm and the friendliness of the area.  Yes, come to south central NC.  Let me know when I can show you around![][][][][]
 

 Actually, most of my family is in Rocky Mount[], but North Carolina dosn t have the offices we need[:@]

[chasd60]

 tim5055
I guess I will have to add question.......... Why would you want to live in one of those cities?

[Tim5055]

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Work

[chasd60]

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I guess if you lived in one of those cities you would certainly appreciate getting away for a camping trip.

[dee106]

 tim5055
well, as you know i m a ny er, life in new york is what you make of it! living in Manhattan, and the Bronx is not easy, you have to be born here basically, for it not to take it s toll.  Outer queens, and Brooklyn have there nice sections, and there seeder side too, but you have that in all cities, I love ny, but I was raised here, for an outsider coming in from the the small city or towns, I would say you need to move to long island, or to westchester, but living there is not cheap, hell living any where is not cheap! but if you want a back yard and shopping malls, westchester and long island is the place to be, and Tim long island has some of the best wineries in the country! []  I enjoy what ny has to offer,  ( the theaters, restaurants, the museums, the culture events, the best hospitals, good colleges, and high paying jobs, etc.)and I deal with the rest! we are not in the top ten crime list anymore, but we are the melting pot of it all.   so like all cities we have our good side and bad side. the other good thing about ny is the weather! we have four seasons!  we don t shake, we don t bake, and we don t have mudsides! no hurricanes either! and the snow isn t to bad.  good luck on your choice!
 

[startx]

 B-flat
Wow guys, Dallas isn t all THAT bad.  Course, I don t live right in Dallas, we re in a burb, and contrary to the popular trend here, we actually live and work in the same town, so traffic for us is not bad at all.  I leave the house about 30 minutes before I have to be at work, drop the kids at daycare/school, and off to work on time.
 
 Sure, we would like to not have our neighbors living quite so close to us sometimes, and we miss family, but you know what, when life gives you lemons make lemonade.  We befriended the neighbors on all sides, and now we have an adopted extended family right there on our block.  We borrow things from each other, we get together for dinners and desserts and parties.  Together we comfort each other through the rough times, and rejoice in each others victories.
 
 Granted, it s dang hot in the summer, but there is only one month in which our family doesn t camp.  You can drive within a four hour radius and camp in all sorts of different landscapes.  You get all the great southern hospitality, and yes folks it still exists, as well as still having some fine cultural and entertainment attractions.  There s also decent housing costs, jobs to be found, and of course we have some great camping clubs that camp year round!

[jaycocamprs]

 tim5055
Well although we don t live in Atlanta, if I had to pick from your list that s my pick. Lots of lakes, some that are almost in town (Lake Allatoona & Lake Lanier). About 2 hr will put you deep into the Blue Ridge Mountains. 6 hours will put you on the gulf coast, 8 the Atlantic. They have all the things that the other city s on your list have, including the traffic. It s not flat, and it doesn t snow. We camp 11 months a year.

[vjm1639]

 tim5055

Spent a week there one morning in traffic

 
 Sounds like every day traffic in Northern Virginia!! Stay away from 95!!![]
 
 
 
 OH DUH---sorry, I AM blonde...didn t realize you were in Annapolis now.. I m sure you ve been this direction and you KNOW what traffic is like here already![]