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GAS PRICES..the real story

Started by mowalker, May 19, 2004, 01:05 AM

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mowalker

I wish I could ride my bike to work, we have a dress code and I dont want my skirt flying up as I ride :yikes:.  Plus it has a flat tire right now :mad:

On my soap box!!

Its not the price of gas as much as it is the TAXES on gas!! Here in Florida, you are warned before you cross the border to this state about the price on gas and to fill up before you get here (we know people who regularly go to GA to get gas and fill up in north FL)

The real price of gas is 30 cents to 60 cents a gallon depending where you live. the rest of the costs are TAXES!!! (mostly state and local)  Many dumbfounded folks have voted to shut down the oil refineries here in the great old USA, and it cost us many jobs, in Florida, Louisiana, Texas, Alaska and many more; all for the good of what?  Now you want to complain,  you asked for it you got it!!!  Now that you have to pay the piper and the taxman, it's not so good anymore is it?  Get informed and VOTE, quit complaining and get involved.  Come on folks GET IT!!!  

USA is self sufficent, if you would let it be so, but NOOO, we want a preserve where a reserve would be. Do you know that a oil drill in your back yard would take up less space than an oak tree, and you could have more trees around, some around to block the view. (if needed)

That welfare moma and dady that just bought all that good meat and snack cakes in front of you in line; that was your gas money at work (not all welfare people are bad),  The taxes dont all go to road improvement, it goes to many other things.

Oh and by the way does'nt this happen evey spring?  Just to scare us for the summer....HMMMmmm

Don't blame the President of the USA.. Do you know the name of your congress person or senator of your state or local area?  Thats where you need to go...!!

So Go.....get on the phone...... take a break from the board and do something good.  Look forward to hearing your results!!!  I would Love to see them.

Off soap box now

I wish you all a happy camping season, God bless and be safe.

I WANT TO SEE YOUR RESULTS

Thanks for your time :)

B

Disclaimer:  Please no flaming the authors point of view.. :D

chasd60

The tax price is 30-60 cents per gallon for state and federal taxes, add any local you may or may not have.

http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp

Old Goat

Mowalker; You are so right about an oil well not taking up much space....Last summer we were traveling down a rural road in Indiana,  when we passed an old farm house with two oil wells in the front yard and they both were pumping.. Two people were sitting on the front porch watching, and there was a new Cadillac sitting in the driveway...There were several more wells in the fields around the house with crops growing close to them....oil wells can't be all that bad........

angelsmom10

What we have a hard time with is how prices keep fluctuating.
 
Go to work, price is 1.89 by 3pm price is 2.05 and by 10pm 1.87... this has happened here at the same station.  We cringe when we buy gas as we try to thing what will prices do in the next hour.  There really shouldn't be any excuse to prices to flucuate since they don't get a "new" supply 3 times in one day.  In fact it usually is comes in usually 1 - 2 times a week at the most.
 
We currently are down to 1.87

mike4947

Gas price here two years ago was $1.09 per gallon. Other than sales tax the rest of the taxes we pay on a gallon of gas today were there then. It's now $2.05 per gallon. It ain't the taxes that caused the price to almost double since then.

SactoCampers

Gas taxes are the same regardless of the price and are almost always earmarked only for transportation. That is unless an administration attempts to siphon them to help balance a state budget deficit.
 
In a strange fate of irony, it's not fuel taxes funding social programs but rather in many cases local sales taxes to fund transportation projects because fuel taxes have, in fact, failed to keep up with the rate of inflation over time...thus deteriorating road conditions.
 
Gasoline is a free-market commodity. The best way to adjust to it is to buy less of it.

NightOwl

Quote from: mike4947. It ain't the taxes that caused the price to almost double .[/QUOTE
Quote from: SactoCampersGas taxes are the same regardless of the price
 
Gasoline is a free-market commodity. The best way to adjust to it is to buy less of it.

 Here in Georgia and in other places where I have lived, gas taxes remain unchanged.  IT IS VERY DIFFICULT--IF NOT  IMPOSSIBLE, for  politicians in any state to raise gas taxes.  The voters scream bloody murder and vote you out of office in a hurry if you try it!

OPEC is now getting $41 per barrel--the highest price in years if not forever.  This and greatly increased  demand and special summer fuel requirements are responsible for the increased prices.

By the way, saw an economist being interviewed  yesterday  on CNN--Her prediction: get ready for inflation like hasnt been seen in this country for 40 years. :yikes:

As for "increased demand"--we aint seen nothin yet!  :( Economists say that China is beginning to use huge amounts of petroleum now and this will only increase as she industrializes.  

The amount of the remaining  oil-reserves is KNOWN to geologists now.  Some are predicting that  ALL  Petroleum reserves will be depleted by the end of this century.

 I bet our grand children and great-grandchildren will wish to hell someone in government in our generations   had had the forsight and guts to SERIOUSLY  fund  alternative fuel research.   I'd rather have had our tax refunds put toward something like this.  it could be a start.

tlhdoc

Quote from: NightOwlI bet our grand children and great-grandchildren will wish to hell someone in government in our generations   had had the forsight and guts to SERIOUSLY  fund  alternative fuel research.   I'd rather have had our tax refunds put toward something like this.  it could be a start.

The oil companies pay congress $$$ to keep alternatives at a minimum.  It is called lobbying. :mad:

NightOwl

Quote from: tlhdocThe oil companies pay congress $$$ to keep alternatives at a minimum.  It is called lobbying. :mad:

Oh boy, Tracy, you are SO RIGHT!  Unfortunately, Congress is for sale EVERY DAY! :(

There's actually a similar but little-known example of payoff from the post WW II era.  The City of Angels used to have a very good public transportation system including trolleys.  After the war, GM paid the city off  to get rid of its public transport so as  to encourage (force)  Angelenos to buy more  cars.

Everything boils down to money now--we live in a corrupt world and it isnt getting any better.  It says in the Bible "For the LOVE of money is the root of all evil" and of course this refers to greed.   What a sad thing for our descendents to have to deal with.

David Roder

People always tell you to do this or do that and it will help make a difference.  In all reality, this is like anything else in that money talks and bull-spit walks.  Big business like oil industries, tobacco industries, alcohol and so on control this country, and as long as you have the guy who is sitting in front of his 10,000ft motor home smoking his cigar, drinking a bud, with his car, boat, and atv's hooked up to the back, sitting there wondering which SUV is he going to buy to replace one of the two he has sitting in garage at home, these companies will always control this country.  just like any business, big or small, if we want to start controlling what we pay, use less of it, to the point where they think we don't need it as much as we used to.