What are these loops for?

[darkstar]

I have a feeling this is going to be one of those questions that will make me feel silly when I get the answer, but here goes: As you look at our pop-up from the outside, facing either bunkend, I noticed that there are two fabric loops at the bottom of the window, about an inch in from each bottom corner.  Does anyone know what these loops are for?

[zamboni]

I have a feeling this is going to be one of those questions that will make me feel silly when I get the answer, but here goes: As you look at our pop-up from the outside, facing either bunkend, I noticed that there are two fabric loops at the bottom of the window, about an inch in from each bottom corner.  Does anyone know what these loops are for?

If I understand what you're describing, I believe they are the loops for holding the windows.  Roll the window "down" (rolling it into a tight roll).  Then, flip the elastic loop over each end of your roll to hold the window "open" and out of the way.

[dthurk]

Zamboni's answer would be accurate if the loops are on the inside of the window area.  What kind of camper do you have?  Our Fleetwood uses bungee cords outside and underneath the bunk deck to hold the fabric taut around the bunk end.  There are two loops on the outside of the fabric near each corner of the camper on the end of each bunk, underneath the window.  When the bungee is unhooked from the underside of the bunk end, the hook on the end of the bungee is looped into one of those loops, one for each corner.  There is no loop inboard on the camper for the other end.  Hooking this helps... this prevents... I don't really know what.  The dealer told us to do this during our walk-through when we bought the camper.  If you've got a Fleetwood, I'd suspect the same for you.  If you've got a different brand, I'd still suspect the same if you have bungee cords in the bottom of your fabric.

[flyfisherman]

Yeah, darkstar, you gotta give us a little hint ... like what kinda popup it might be (LOL)!

As for mere speculation ... attached to the underside (plywood) of each bunkend, and just below the ends of the far windows, are two webbed strap loops, used to pull the bunk ends out.  This is for my Starcraft and my best guess so far!


Fly

[darkstar]

The model in question is an '03 Coleman Carmel by Fleetwood.  I think this was the last year that they used that moniker, I see that now it's just Fleetwood.  Thanks for your input, it is much appreciated.  I think dthurk's reply makes the most sense to me, but on our particular model the bungee isn't nearly long enough to fit in that loop (with the bungees undone), but this may be because the tenting was fastened to the bunkend by stitching and white rivets at the factory, although I'm aware that not all models are like this.  Even the video that came with the camper shows it being pulled away while popping down!  Thanks kind folks...Brady

[tlhdoc]

As you look at our pop-up from the outside, facing either bunkend, I noticed that there are two fabric loops at the bottom of the window, about an inch in from each bottom corner. Does anyone know what these loops are for?

Can you take a picture and post it?  Are the loops attached to the tenting?  If so I doubt that they are involved with the bungee cord.  Are you looking at the end of the bunks or the sides?

[brainpause]

I agree with flyfisherman. I bet they are to help pull out the bunk ends when setting up. Our Palomino has them, and I've seen them on others.

Larry

[dthurk]

Just called our dealer.  

The loops I'm referring to are small, about large enough to put your pinkie through and attached to the canvas under the windows at the corners of the bunk ends.  They are, in fact, to loop the hook of the bungy cord through.  The purpose is to attach the bungy to something so that the bungy doesn't get caught up in anything as you push the bunk end into the camper.  

We also have a loop for pulling out the bunk end.  It is attached to the metal frame of the bunk end, underneath the skirting on the bottom of the bunk end.  It is centered on the bunk, mounted with rivets (if I remember correctly) and actually forms 2 loops that can be grabbed to pull out the bunk end.  The material is a black webbing, about 1" wide, with loops large enough that your hand will easily fit into it to pull out the bunk end.  

I don't think pulling on a loop attached to the canvas would be recommended for pulling out the bunk end.

[tlhdoc]

Dave thanks for clearing it up!:)

[dthurk]

Dave thanks for clearing it up!:)

' Welcome!  (I think).  The dealer thought we all have far too much time on our hands.  I agree.  Camping season starts for us in 15 days!  Woohoo!  I should update my Countdown thread.

Off topic:
Listening to a CD with "You Raise Me Up" right now.  It's a wonderful tune, but I find that's fast becoming a highly overplayed tune, at least from my perspective.  Getting tired of hearing it, along with Pachelbel Canon.

[tlhdoc]

I stopped by my Fleetwood dealer on my way home today to look at the loops that were in question.  My PU doesn't have them, but I saw them on a 2006 on the lot.  If you hook the end of your bungee cord on the loops, does it "gather" the tenting?  11 or 12 days until we are camping again this year.

[dthurk]

I stopped by my Fleetwood dealer on my way home today to look at the loops that were in question.  My PU doesn't have them, but I saw them on a 2006 on the lot.  If you hook the end of your bungee cord on the loops, does it "gather" the tenting?  11 or 12 days until we are camping again this year.

It doesn't gather the tenting, because the other end of the bungee is unattached.  That end slides into the camper with the bunk and apparently doesn't catch on the canvas.  The outside end of the bungee can get caught up in the canvas as it gets pushed in, and hooking on the loop prevents this, thus preventing possible damage to the canvas from the bungee.

At least, that's the theory as I understand it.  It doesn't take any effort to hook the bungees, so we do it as a matter of course when popping down.

Happy camping in a few days!  Actually, you're a few days up on us already due to your Feb. trip.  But we were in sunny Florida during that time (not camping)!