please help me find awning pole mod

[Gabe]

I searched and searched but i can't find the write up on how to attach the outside poles to the frame of the trailer, I'm sorry but I must not be good with the search tool

[wavery]

I searched and searched but i can't find the write up on how to attach the outside poles to the frame of the trailer, I'm sorry but I must not be good with the search tool

Check this out. It is Recumbentman's mod:

http://www.gallery.pstartech.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=26689

[Gabe]

Check this out. It is Recumbentman's mod:

http://www.gallery.pstartech.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=26689

Thank You that's the one I don't know where I saw it before

[Gabe]

Thank You that's the one I don't know where I saw it before

Is there a down side to this Mod?

[dthurk]

I can't think of a downside, maybe others will.  This is the configuration that's used on most TT's, 5's and MH's, so it's a proven configuration.  Can it also be used with poles on the ground, if you wish?  If so, you've added to your capabilities, not replaced one with the other.  I had thought of doing this to our PUP also, but never got around to it.  The only thing you wouldn't want to do is have your awning set in high winds.  That can rip the awning off your camper, causing sometimes significant damage.  I don't think configuration will matter there, although the camper mounted configuration may handle a stronger wind than ground mounting.

[AustinBoston]

Is there a down side to this Mod?

The down side I think of is that you might have problems if you have a screen room or add-a-room that attaches to the awning.  Although you can probably adjust the awning so the screen room attaches and hangs properly, those are designed to also attach to the upright poles, which are now AWOL.  Probably not a big deal to add uprights.

And then again, it may not be a problem at all.

Austin

[philwolfe]

One of the upsides of course is no lines, stakes or anchors to haul, trip over, etc.
The one downside I've read is that the new diagonal brace interferes with traffic patterns from the door to the front and rear of your PUP. Lots of folks have clanged into the angled poles in the dark or after curing their malt/hops deficiencies.
That said, I'm doing this mod this weekend. I've seen too many places where the staking was a PITA.

[Gabe]

One of the upsides of course is no lines, stakes or anchors to haul, trip over, etc.
The one downside I've read is that the new diagonal brace interferes with traffic patterns from the door to the front and rear of your PUP. Lots of folks have clanged into the angled poles in the dark or after curing their malt/hops deficiencies.
That said, I'm doing this mod this weekend. I've seen too many places where the staking was a PITA.

I see this as a possible problem but I hope that after a couple of smacks tho the head even I can learn not to go that way

[philwolfe]

Might be a good place for reflective tape, or better yet, another excuse to hang more tacky lights!?

[Walt H]

Has anyone does this mod on a Jayco? We have a 1007, and it seems like this might be a little challenging because of the way the poles connect to one another in the first place, but maybe I'm wrong. Sure wouldn't be the first time!

[Gabe]

Has anyone does this mod on a Jayco? We have a 1007, and it seems like this might be a little challenging because of the way the poles connect to one another in the first place, but maybe I'm wrong. Sure wouldn't be the first time!

Well I just completed this and I think it's going to work out nice. I see two things that worry me a little. One is the weight of the awning is being held up by the PU and not the ground. Two not too sure this is going to be all that much easier to set up, the holes don't always line up and depending on the angle of the awning the poles twist inside each other. But we will see, one thing for sure is it very stout and tight.

[Gabe]

OK found another issue, there is no give and everything is attached hard to the PU so as I found out last night when a big wind comes along and I do mean big something has to give. I bent yes bent a pole. If it was just staked down they would have just pulled out and I likley would have to replace a pole.

[Recumbentman]

OK found another issue, there is no give and everything is attached hard to the PU so as I found out last night when a big wind comes along and I do mean big something has to give. I bent yes bent a pole. If it was just staked down they would have just pulled out and I likely would have to replace a pole.

Gabe
Lets remember here that you are the one that ask on how to do the awning mod. I don't understand why you keep coming up with issues with it. A bent pole is a small price, compared with the wind coming up and pulling out the staked poles and then throwing everything onto the roof. and if you are lucky the poles don't make a hole into the roof when this happens. because believe me, it happens a lot. So replacing a pole is a lot cheaper then replacing or repairing a hole in your PU's roof. Also I bet that you didn't angle your awning in a downward position so the wind wouldn't come up under it and easlily lit it up. plus you should always angle it downward in case it starts raining during the night.

[dthurk]

Gabe-

Check out the TT's, 5'rs and MH's next time you go camping.  They all have awning configurations the same as I believe you modded your camper.  There is also no give at all in those awnings.  However, the side poles are quite a bit beefier than what you have.  Quite often in high wind situations, you'll see those awnings staked down to help give them a bit more resistance.  Also, as recombentman suggested, one end of the awning should be set lower than the other.  We usually have our (20') awning sloped toward the rear, as the camper door is in the front of the camper.  Works well for us.  If the wind gets to ferocious, it calls for storing the awning to protect the camper.  

I would have to agree, replacing a bent pole is a lot better than replacing a roof.

[Gabe]

Gabe
Lets remember here that you are the one that ask on how to do the awning mod. I don't understand why you keep coming up with issues with it. A bent pole is a small price, compared with the wind coming up and pulling out the staked poles and then throwing everything onto the roof. and if you are lucky the poles don't make a hole into the roof when this happens. because believe me, it happens a lot. So replacing a pole is a lot cheaper then replacing or repairing a hole in your PU's roof. Also I bet that you didn't angle your awning in a downward position so the wind wouldn't come up under it and easlily lit it up. plus you should always angle it downward in case it starts raining during the night.

I'm just letting other folks who think about doing this of some of the things I've come accross. I still think it's a good mod and will utilize it, but it does have some things you might want to think about that could help you decide if its for you.

 I must admit I was shocked that the pole was bent. I can see where the tarp and poles flying around would be scary.