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just installed batt. and I get nothing

Started by Gabe, Jun 09, 2007, 02:17 PM

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Gabe

I have a 05 fleetwood yuma I just got back from the dealer with the batt kit, donnected black to pos and white to neg. plug in to the plug and go inside to see nothing working. Did I miss something. The dealer is already closed so no help from them.

Next question can I use a regulare car batt charger to charge up. I believe that it will charge when hooked up to the TV as well?

tknick

There should be a self resetting breaker installed inline with the battery.  if you hooked it up backwards, that will reset and once you switch the leads you should be good to go.  But, you are correct that black is positive and white is negative.

There are a couple of things I can think of.  First is the obvious one.  Is the battery fully charged?

Second is pigtail that comes from your battery has to be connected to the trailers wiring.  Somewhere on the frame of the trailer near the tongue you should see a white plug with a black and white wire on it.  That will plug in (only one way) to the pigtail coming from the battery.

If you rule out both of those, there is a galley cutoff switch that kills 12v power to the inside circuits of the PUP when the galley is folded down.  This is so you don't leave the inside light on, fold up your PUP and set the inside on fire while driving home.  Check the switch. Sometimes they aren't aligned properly and the opened galley does not activate the switch.

If the galley switch is not the problem, there are one or two sets of wires that run from the sides of the PUP, up through the tenting to power the 12v lights in the ceiling.  Those plugs look very similar (if not identical) to the one for the battery hook up.  Those may not have been connected at the factory.  You would just need to plug them in.

Lastly would be the actual bulbs in the lights.

If none of that solves your problem you may have a short or some other problem that the dealer would need to resolve under warranty.

Good luck
travis

Gabe

Quote from: tknickThere should be a self resetting breaker installed inline with the battery.  if you hooked it up backwards, that will reset and once you switch the leads you should be good to go.  But, you are correct that black is positive and white is negative.

There are a couple of things I can think of.  First is the obvious one.  Is the battery fully charged?

Second is pigtail that comes from your battery has to be connected to the trailers wiring.  Somewhere on the frame of the trailer near the tongue you should see a white plug with a black and white wire on it.  That will plug in (only one way) to the pigtail coming from the battery.

If you rule out both of those, there is a galley cutoff switch that kills 12v power to the inside circuits of the PUP when the galley is folded down.  This is so you don't leave the inside light on, fold up your PUP and set the inside on fire while driving home.  Check the switch. Sometimes they aren't aligned properly and the opened galley does not activate the switch.
If the galley switch is not the problem, there are one or two sets of wires that run from the sides of the PUP, up through the tenting to power the 12v lights in the ceiling.  Those plugs look very similar (if not identical) to the one for the battery hook up.  Those may not have been connected at the factory.  You would just need to plug them in.

Lastly would be the actual bulbs in the lights.

If none of that solves your problem you may have a short or some other problem that the dealer would need to resolve under warranty.

Good luck
travis
On the wire harness there is what looks like a fuse on the black wire. I still can't seem to get any power inside yet.

xjcrawler

I also have this problem on a 2000 Taos I just bought. Everything works with regular power hooked up but not from the battery. The battery will operate the top to go up and down though. Curious to see what fixes your problem.

Gabe

More info: When hooked up to the TV still don't get anything although I'm pretty sure I used to before I hooked up the batt. also when I hook up to house power everything works

'tiredTeacher

Quote from: GabeOn the wire harness there is what looks like a fuse on the black wire. I still can't seem to get any power inside yet.
What are you using to test for voltage and how are you using it?

Gabe

Quote from: xjcrawlerI also have this problem on a 2000 Taos I just bought. Everything works with regular power hooked up but not from the battery. The battery will operate the top to go up and down though. Curious to see what fixes your problem.


XJcrawler, do you use your xj as your TV and crawler?

Gabe

Quote from: 'tiredTeacherWhat are you using to test for voltage and how are you using it?
Just the charger it's self right now it's showing full charge, I'm starting to think that there is a fuse some where else that I have blown out while hooking up, just don't know where

tknick

There should be automotive style blade fuses in your converter for the individual circuits.  If the lift motor is working, then you are getting 12v out of the battery.  Use a voltmeter or a test light to check the voltage at the converter.  Even on battery power, everything runs through the converter.  It is acting as a 12v fuse panel.  It is possible that the fuses for your individual circuits (or at least the circuit you want to use) is blown.  

The self reseting breaker should look like a tiny battery.  It will have two lugs that you attach leads to.  One for incoming voltage coming from your battery and one for power to the PUP.  If that is not what you have on  your black wire, you may just have an inline fuse which is probably blown.

Before any 12v appliance in the camper can be used, the power goes through the converter.  If it 12v power from the battery, it simply passes through the coverter circuits on its way to the 12v circuit in the camper.  If it's 110v AC shore power, the coverter as you would guess, converts the 110v AC to 12v DC and then sends it through the same circuits to the camper.  If things work on shore power but not on battery power, the problem is not with any fuses, but with the battery itself or the battery connections.  

HTH
travis

'tiredTeacher

Quote from: GabeJust the charger it's self right now it's showing full charge, I'm starting to think that there is a fuse some where else that I have blown out while hooking up, just don't know where
As tknick has described a good troubleshooting procedure, I'll just say you need to invest in some test equipment. A multimeter is best and not very expensive. Pair it with a simple "ice pick"-style circuit tester and you are good-to-go.

Gabe

Quote from: tknickThere should be automotive style blade fuses in your converter for the individual circuits.  If the lift motor is working, then you are getting 12v out of the battery.  Use a voltmeter or a test light to check the voltage at the converter.  Even on battery power, everything runs through the converter.  It is acting as a 12v fuse panel.  It is possible that the fuses for your individual circuits (or at least the circuit you want to use) is blown.  

The self reseting breaker should look like a tiny battery.  It will have two lugs that you attach leads to.  One for incoming voltage coming from your battery and one for power to the PUP.  If that is not what you have on  your black wire, you may just have an inline fuse which is probably blown.

Before any 12v appliance in the camper can be used, the power goes through the converter.  If it 12v power from the battery, it simply passes through the coverter circuits on its way to the 12v circuit in the camper.  If it's 110v AC shore power, the coverter as you would guess, converts the 110v AC to 12v DC and then sends it through the same circuits to the camper.  If things work on shore power but not on battery power, the problem is not with any fuses, but with the battery itself or the battery connections.  

HTH
travis
Thank You Travis, I do have what you discribed on the black wire, I don't have a lift on mine so all I have been doing is simply trying to turn lights on.
  I don't think it's the battery because I can't get the dome lights to work when the TV is hooked up either.

AustinBoston

Quote from: GabeThank You Travis, I do have what you discribed on the black wire, I don't have a lift on mine so all I have been doing is simply trying to turn lights on.
  I don't think it's the battery because I can't get the dome lights to work when the TV is hooked up either.

Before going any further, make sure it's not the safety switch.  When your sink is in position, it turns on a switch to power the internal lights.  Sometimes they shift and don't turn on right.  I'd hate to see you chase a fuse for hours and hours that may not even exist...

Austin

bpike

I have the same exact problem. After doing all the testing I could, I've finally decided the convertor is no good. It shoudl be fine as long as your camping with hook ups. But as far as dry camping goes...well...there's ain't going to be any of that.

Gabe

Quote from: AustinBostonBefore going any further, make sure it's not the safety switch.  When your sink is in position, it turns on a switch to power the internal lights.  Sometimes they shift and don't turn on right.  I'd hate to see you chase a fuse for hours and hours that may not even exist...

Austin
I did check this, and I think if it was bad it would be bad with shore power as well

Gabe

I spoke with the dealer and he confirm what Travis said about the fuse panel so I'll try that this afternoon