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Started by mkcom1, Dec 29, 2007, 09:02 PM

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mkcom1

Hello
    JUst wondering if anyone can provide me with some info on my outsid e lp stove.   I have noticed that it takes quite a long time to say boil water on the outside stove versus my coleman camp stove or the inside stove .  I think that my coleman which uses the small propane bottles would be high pressure.  Is there a way to modify my outside stove so that it will cook faster or is this just a poor stove.  I have an 02 fleetwood Niagara and the stove is the one that came with it.  The outside stove has a hose that screws into a connection on the frame.  It would seem that there would be oriface on the stove that could be drilled out to allow more gas to flow and thus cook hotter.  i really don.t want to melt the camper though.   Ken

beacher

I have an '04 Niagara with the Vitgo High Pressure outside two burner stove.  The outside stove's output is considerably higher than the inside stove.  It has two large stainless steel burners.  The inside stove has three smaller burners.  I think your '02 came with the same stove, but mounted in a particle wood frame.  That outside stove has melted an aluminum griddle, and a small aluminum pot by accident.  It can get REALLY hot near the burner, (but not too hot to damage the tent).

Did it ever work well?  Or has it's performance dropped over the years?

It's possible that the burners and venturi tubes have become dirty.  Or your manifold and valves may be full of oil/slime from a bad tank of propane.  The stove is easy to disassemble and clean.  Use wood toothpicks to clean ports, and plastic bottle cleaner brushes for the tubes.  Don't use any metal tools in order to avoid enlarging any openings.  Re-assemble components when completely dry.

mkcom1

Quote from: beacherI have an '04 Niagara with the Vitgo High Pressure outside two burner stove.  The outside stove's output is considerably higher than the inside stove.  It has two large stainless steel burners.  The inside stove has three smaller burners.  I think your '02 came with the same stove, but mounted in a particle wood frame.  That outside stove has melted an aluminum griddle, and a small aluminum pot by accident.  It can get REALLY hot near the burner, (but not too hot to damage the tent).

Did it ever work well?  Or has it's performance dropped over the years?

It's possible that the burners and venturi tubes have become dirty.  Or your manifold and valves may be full of oil/slime from a bad tank of propane.  The stove is easy to disassemble and clean.  Use wood toothpicks to clean ports, and plastic bottle cleaner brushes for the tubes.  Don't use any metal tools in order to avoid enlarging any openings.  Re-assemble components when completely dry.

   As far as I can tell it has not worked well even when new.  I just assumed that this was as good as it gets.  So based on your comments I ceratinly can check the unit out.  I assume then that the port on the frame rail is high pressure then?  I have a hose from an old PU that I use to connect to this port to power up a weber Q and coleman camp stove and since these would normally use a bottle I assume that the line is high pressure.  Compared to the coleman when you turn the gas on you really don't hear that much hiss from the gas.  Thanks  Ken

flyfisherman

My previous PU, a '96 Coleman/Fleetwood "Yukon", had two stoves. The outside stove would way outperform the interior stove. Sounds like you either have a defective outside stove or there is an obstruction somewhere in the L/P line connecting to it.

With my present PU, it came with just one stove that you have to tote in and out, called and "indoor/outdoor stove; and the performance is just so-so. So I just leave it inside and use my old tent camping, two burner L/P stove. I hook it up to a propane tank rather than using the disposable 16oz cylinder tanks. That old Coleman stove will outperform the regular PU stove hands down. So it is for the most part the main cooking stove, always used outside, and the interior stove is just used for the morning coffee and heating up some water or soup.




Fly

beacher

Quote from: mkcom1....I have a hose from an old PU that I use to connect to this port to power up a weber Q and coleman camp stove and since these would normally use a bottle I assume that the line is high pressure. ....

Yes, that outside screw-on connection is considered "high pressure" propane.  Anything that normally uses the disposable propane canisters can be connected there with a readily available extension hose.  I have connected my Weber Go Anywhere grill, a NorthStar lantern, a propane converted Yamaha EF2400iS generator, and my Little Red Campfire, (with a steak saver adapter), to that connector by using extension hose.  But normally, the exterior Vitgo two burner stove hangs on the side of the PopUp and gets connected there.


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mkcom1

thanks to all who responded

oreo57

Quote from: beacherYes, that outside screw-on connection is considered "high pressure" propane.  Anything that normally uses the disposable propane canisters can be connected there with a readily available extension hose.  I have connected my Weber Go Anywhere grill, a NorthStar lantern,a propane converted Yamaha EF2400iS generator, and my Little Red Campfire, (with a steak saver adapter), to that connector by using extension hose.  But normally, the exterior Vitgo two burner stove hangs on the side of the PopUp and gets connected there.
 
 
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Beacher, This is interesting a little more info on the conversion as I have the same Gen and the Camper Caddy is still waiting for a new home.
 
 Happy New Year to all.

beacher

Quote from: oreo57Beacher, This is interesting a little more info on the conversion as I have the same Gen and the Camper Caddy is still waiting for a new home.
 
 Happy New Year to all.


It was ordered online though U.S. Carburation in West Virginia.  It's actually a tri-fuel conversion.  It can run on gasoline, natural gas, or propane.

They sell a conversion kit for under $200.

I loaned it to my brother-in-law in September and he gave me cash back instead of returning it, (he really liked it and he might have accidentally scratched it up),  so now I need to order another one!  They take about three weeks and $60 shipping to arrive from WV!

I'm on vacation through the 2nd, I can pick up that CC!



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aw738

My Toas has the low pressure indoor/outdoor stove and it seems to work just fine. I've never noticed that it took any longer than my gas stove at home.

mkcom1

Okay so I took the stove inside and connected it to a portable bottle and whoa what a difference.  Should have thought of this a long time ago.  Now that I have done this I remember that when I hooked up my portable hose to the connection on the PU and powered up my weber Q it didn't seem to cook as well. I thought that it was just the grill.  So now I have checked the line to the tank regulator and all seems well no kinks etc.  And the most probable cause is dirt etc. in the fitting connection so thats next.  Thanks again

flyfisherman

Quote from: mkcom1Okay so I took the stove inside and connected it to a portable bottle and whoa what a difference.  Should have thought of this a long time ago.  Now that I have done this I remember that when I hooked up my portable hose to the connection on the PU and powered up my weber Q it didn't seem to cook as well. I thought that it was just the grill.  So now I have checked the line to the tank regulator and all seems well no kinks etc.  And the most probable cause is dirt etc. in the fitting connection so thats next.  Thanks again



Remember too, there always exists the possibility of a faulty L/P regulator.